"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
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Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating

the Jan. 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the authority of the United States.? The committee
should assemble an ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly, repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count state-certified
electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6 insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The
former vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021, Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached
a sufficient threshold to provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times during the Jan. 6
insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence. Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt
in spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper
record against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state
ballots in 2024.

I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.

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On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating

the Jan. 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the authority of the United States.? The committee
should assemble an ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly, repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count state-certified
electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6 insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The
former vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021, Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached
a sufficient threshold to provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times during the Jan. 6
insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence. Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in
spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper
record against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state
ballots in 2024.

I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.

===

Maybe not but you should read what he had to say. His conservative credentials are above reproach, and his analysis was very thoughtful - with no hysterical cries of "lock him up" or anything like that. The important thing is that Trump can never be
allowed to hold public office again given his utter disregard for the constitution, and the obligations that go with it.

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On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:17:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating

the Jan. 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the authority of the United States.? The committee
should assemble an ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly, repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count state-certified
electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6 insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to

Watergate. The former vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021, Trump?s implied threats

to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times
during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence. Declining to testify would permit an inference
of Trump?s guilt in spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After

the committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent Trump

electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024.

I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.

Of course you don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable >conservative credentials.

Yean, but Justine is an idiot.

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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the

author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald Trump from office under Section 3 of the
14th Amendment. Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the authority of the United
States under the 12th Amendment by directly, repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the
committee must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6 insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible knowledge of Trump?s incessant
cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021, Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that Trump
might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity
to rebut the evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence. Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination because the Supreme Court
held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare the former president
disqualified from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you don't. Fein is a
Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so
impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.
What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how
they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are
standing in judgement over.
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"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> > Wrote in message:r > > Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan

and is the author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald Trump from office under Section 3
of the 14th Amendment. Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the authority of the United
States under the 12th Amendment by directly, repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the
committee must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6 insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible knowledge of Trump?s incessant
cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021, Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that Trump
might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to
rebut the evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence. Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held
in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare the former president
disqualified from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024. > > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks. > ===Maybe not but you should read what he
had to say. His conservative credentials are above reproach, and his analysis was very thoughtful - with no hysterical cries of "lock him up" or anything like that. The important thing is that Trump can never be allowed to hold public office again
given his utter disregard for the constitution, and the obligations that go with it.

Don't need to. The fact that you quote him tells me the jist of
what he said.You are the one who seeks justification for your
hatred.
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Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote
in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was
associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the
author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our
Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.
6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald
Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the
authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an
ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,
repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not
count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60
judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee
must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6
insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former
vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible
knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to
thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,
Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to
provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that
Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s
high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times
during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the
vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the
evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.
Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite
of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination
because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be
inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the
committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote
by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified
from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.
The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state
ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you
don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative
credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so
impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.
What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how
they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are
standing in judgement over.

Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a
politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.

--
Lock Trump Up

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waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy
attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of
?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution
and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan. 6
insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald
Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the
authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an
ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,
repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count >>> state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial
challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must
subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6
insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former
vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible
knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to
thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,
Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to
provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service
that Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s
high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times
during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the
vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the
evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.
Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in
spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory
self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v.
Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in
noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper record
against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare
the former president disqualified from holding any office under the
United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent
Trump electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024.

I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.

==
Maybe not but you should read what he had to say. His conservative credentials are above reproach, and his analysis was very thoughtful -
with no hysterical cries of "lock him up" or anything like that. The important thing is that Trump can never be allowed to hold public office again given his utter disregard for the constitution, and the obligations that go with it.

Unfortunately, he has no less a regard for the constitution as most of the politicians in Washington DC have. The DC Rulers have ignored the Federal limits in the Constitution for many years.

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Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote
in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was
associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the
author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our
Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.
6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald
Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the
authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an
ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,
repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not
count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60
judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee >>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6
insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former
vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible
knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to
thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,
Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to
provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that >>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s
high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times
during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the
vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the
evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.
Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite >>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination
because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be >>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the >>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote
by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified
from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.
The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state
ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you
don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative
credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so
impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.
What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how
they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are
standing in judgement over.

Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a
politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.

If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide his
college transcripts.

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Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"

Bruce Fein was associate deputy>>> attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of>>> ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution>>> and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan. 6>>> insurrection
should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.>>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble

ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count>>> state-certified

electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial>>> challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must>>> subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to
Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s
implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service>>> that Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the
Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to
testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in>>> spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory>>> self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v.>>> Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in>>>
noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper record>>> against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare>>> the former president disqualified from holding any office under the>>> United States pursuant to Section 3.
The declaration would prevent>>> Trump electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024. >> >> I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks. >> > > ==> Maybe not but you should read what he had to say. His conservative> credentials are above reproach, and his
analysis was very thoughtful -> with no hysterical cries of "lock him up" or anything like that. The> important thing is that Trump can never be allowed to hold public office> again given his utter disregard for the constitution, and the obligations
that go with it.> Unfortunately, he has no less a regard for the constitution as most of thepoliticians in Washington DC have. The DC Rulers have ignored the Federallimits in the Constitution for many years.

EXACTLY!
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Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote>> in message:r>> Written by

Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>> associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>> Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>
6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>> authority of the United States.? The committee
should assemble an>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>> count state-
certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to
Watergate. The former>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>> Trump?s implied
threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol
multiple times>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>> Declining to testify
would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>> because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal
proceedings.After the>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>> The
declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his
family of grifters. *> > What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.> What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how> they rush to judge without
any knowlege of who or what they are> standing in judgement over. Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, apolitician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.-- Lock Trump Up

You are either lying or dumb as a bag of rocks. Sometimes It's
really hard to tell which.
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Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.

beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>>
Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?
insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly
and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time.
Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart
the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence.
Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>> evidence
showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in Baxter
v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president
disqualified>>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a
Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.>

What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a

human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:> On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > > Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.

wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>>

associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus on
disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad
record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that
had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>>
vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s implied threats to Pence
reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>>
during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an
inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.
After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> The declaration
would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of
grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any
knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide
hiscollege transcripts. > > > > Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does > > anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a > > poke.> Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough > and crooked enough.

-- > * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *===It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is willing to light that match and fight that fight.It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the 14th

Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

I think the midterms will bring an end to all these democrat witch
hunts. There is inportant work to be done to unravel the mess
Biden has made of the country.
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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

On 6/18/22 5:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr.

..@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was associate deputy>>> attorney general under President Reagan and is the author of>>> ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for
Our Constitution>>> and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan. 6>>> insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.>>> Disqualification is triggered by
engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>>
repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not count>>> state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60 judicial>>> challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee must>>> subpoena Pence to testify in
prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>

thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service>>> that Trump might be a security risk for

Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>>
evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in>>> spite of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory>>> self-incrimination because the Supreme Court held
in Baxter v.>>> Palmigiano that guilt may be inferred when the amendment is used in>>> noncriminal proceedings.After the committee assembles a proper record>>> against Trump, Congress should vote by concurrent resolution to declare>>> the former
president disqualified from holding any office under the>>> United States pursuant to Section 3. The declaration would prevent>>> Trump electors from appearing on state ballots in 2024. >> >> I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks. >> > > ==> Maybe not but
you should read what he had to say. His conservative> credentials are above reproach, and his analysis was very thoughtful -> with no hysterical cries of "lock him up" or anything like that. The> important thing is that Trump can never be allowed to
hold public office> again given his utter disregard for the constitution, and the obligations that go with it.> Unfortunately, he has no less a regard for the constitution as most of thepoliticians in Washington DC have. The DC Rulers have ignored the
Federallimits in the Constitution for many years.> > EXACTLY!As if you had any idea of what that means, shit-for-brains.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Go fork yourself tubby
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On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@

gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and
Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection
against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and
menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time.
Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart
the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence.
Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>> evidence
showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in Baxter
v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president
disqualified>>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a
Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.>

What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a

human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:>> On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>>> Keyser Soze <keyse...@

whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:

Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee

investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the
United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike
Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what
President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.
On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave
badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives
in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>>
inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from holding any office under
the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable
conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing
aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If
he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.>>>>>> Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does>>> anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a>>> poke.>> Hopefully, Trump will be the pig
in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough>> and crooked enough.>> -- >> * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *> > ===> > It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is willing to light that match and fight that fight.> It would
probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.> In ways that really matter, Trump's
transgressions and those of his staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit for
this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed wage-price controls?-- * Lock up Trump and his
family of grifters. *

You two should get a room. If K moves any more of her family in,
you'll have to.
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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart
<m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 >>>>> PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein >>>>> on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general
under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: >>>>> The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.?
The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should
focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office
under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is
triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of
the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad
record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>>
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike >>>>> Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had
survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment
requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify >>>>> in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President >>>>> Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the >>>>> smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s >>>>> incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the
peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s
implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke >>>>> the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>>
Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>>
high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple
times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress
certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to >>>>> rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in
menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of >>>>> Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against
compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in
Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment >>>>> is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a >>>>> proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent
resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from
holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> >>>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on
state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of >>>>> course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable >>>>> conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of
grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer >>>>> who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from
the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those
characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or >>>>> what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate >>>>> credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a
human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as >>>>> a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is
willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the
14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and
my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in
as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit
for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I
did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and
planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free ride.

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Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart
<m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 >>>>>> PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein >>>>>> on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general
under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: >>>>>> The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? >>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should >>>>>> focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office >>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is
triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of >>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad
record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>>
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike >>>>>> Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had
survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment
requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify >>>>>> in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President >>>>>> Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the >>>>>> smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s >>>>>> incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the
peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s >>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke >>>>>> the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> >>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> >>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple
times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress >>>>>> certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to >>>>>> rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in >>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of >>>>>> Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against >>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in >>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment >>>>>> is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a >>>>>> proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent >>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from
holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> >>>>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on
state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of >>>>>> course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable >>>>>> conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of
grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer >>>>>> who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from >>>>>> the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those
characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or >>>>>> what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate >>>>>> credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a >>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as >>>>>> a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough >>>> and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is
willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the
14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and >>> my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that
Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in
as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit
for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I
did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed
wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free ride.

Read much? Trump’s transgressions were the worst and they continue.

--
Lock Trump Up

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 06:20:53 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@

gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein

associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus

on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of
the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of
the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and >menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time.
Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s
implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that
Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>>

evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held

in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to
Section 3.>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a
Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut

from the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a>

politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

That assumes they can get a conviction for being "engaged in
insurrection or rebellion against the <US> or given aid or comfort to
the enemies thereof."

The courts have not embraced this insurrection.

Your "Insurrection" seems to be missing convictions for much more than misdemeanor trespassing and some felony "assault on police officer"
charges. If the DoJ ever put a full court press like this on any other
riot they would end up with a whole lot more.
DoJ has pulled in prosecutors from 56 field offices to pursue these
yahoos and they want $34 million to hire another 131 lawyers.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-07/thousands-attacked-the-capitol-who-has-answered-for-it

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:07:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@

gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein on "The Hill"Bruce Fein

associate deputy attorney general under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should focus

on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office under Section 3 of
the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> authority of
the United States under the 12th Amendment by directly,>>> repeatedly and >menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify in prime time.
Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s
implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that
Congress certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to rebut the>>>

evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held

in Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from holding any office under the United States pursuant to
Section 3.>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a
Constitutional lawyer who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut

from the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a>

politician, and as a human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that >Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in
as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit
for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I
did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed >wage-price controls?

Nixon was a big government Federalist who trampled on the constitution
with illegal restrictions on states rights.
He bought off the Democrats with feel good agencies like EPA and OSHA
and the hard core law and order people with the drug war. None of them
are constitutional the way the laws are written and most decisions are
made administratively by faceless bureaucrats who are un elected.
(CFR)

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Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart
<m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 >>>>>>> PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein >>>>>>> on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general >>>>>>> under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: >>>>>>> The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? >>>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should >>>>>>> focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office >>>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is
triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of >>>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad >>>>>>> record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> >>>>>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike >>>>>>> Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had
survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment
requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify >>>>>>> in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President >>>>>>> Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the >>>>>>> smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s >>>>>>> incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the >>>>>>> peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s >>>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke >>>>>>> the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> >>>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> >>>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple
times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress >>>>>>> certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to >>>>>>> rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in >>>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of >>>>>>> Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against >>>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in >>>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment >>>>>>> is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a >>>>>>> proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent >>>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from
holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> >>>>>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on
state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of >>>>>>> course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable >>>>>>> conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of >>>>>>> grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer >>>>>>> who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from >>>>>>> the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those
characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or >>>>>>> what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate >>>>>>> credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a >>>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as >>>>>>> a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough >>>>> and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is
willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the >>>> 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and >>>> my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that >>> Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in
as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit
for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I
did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed
wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and
planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free >> ride.

Read much? Trump’s transgressions were the worst and they continue.

They are? We were talking watergate and Hillary.

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On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 22:16:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote: >>>>>> On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart
<m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 >>>>>>>> PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein >>>>>>>> on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general >>>>>>>> under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: >>>>>>>> The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? >>>>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should >>>>>>>> focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office >>>>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is >>>>>>>> triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of >>>>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad >>>>>>>> record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> >>>>>>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike >>>>>>>> Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had >>>>>>>> survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment >>>>>>>> requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify >>>>>>>> in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President >>>>>>>> Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the >>>>>>>> smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s >>>>>>>> incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the >>>>>>>> peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s >>>>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke >>>>>>>> the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> >>>>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> >>>>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple >>>>>>>> times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress >>>>>>>> certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to >>>>>>>> rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in >>>>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of >>>>>>>> Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against >>>>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in >>>>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment >>>>>>>> is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a >>>>>>>> proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent >>>>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from >>>>>>>> holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>> >>>>>>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on >>>>>>>> state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of >>>>>>>> course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable >>>>>>>> conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of >>>>>>>> grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer >>>>>>>> who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from >>>>>>>> the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those
characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or >>>>>>>> what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate >>>>>>>> credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a >>>>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as >>>>>>>> a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does >>>>>>> anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough >>>>>> and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is
willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the >>>>> 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and >>>>> my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that >>>> Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in >>>> as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit >>>> for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I >>>> did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed >>>> wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and
planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free >>> ride.

Read much? Trump’s transgressions were the worst and they continue.

They are? We were talking watergate and Hillary.

Maybe I am just a loonytarian but I consider lying us into a war that
kills thousands or even millions is worse but LBJ and GWB got a total
pass. What Trump is accused of doing doesn't even bump the needle.

My guess is when the dust settles he will have to pay some money for
some banking irregularities and that will be it.

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On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 22:16:50 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:38:35 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 22:16:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart
<m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49
PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein
on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general
under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril:
The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? >> >>>>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should >> >>>>>>>> focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office >> >>>>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is
triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of >> >>>>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad
record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>>
authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike
Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had
survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment
requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify
in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President
Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the
smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s
incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the
peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s >> >>>>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke
the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> >> >>>>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> >> >>>>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple
times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress >> >>>>>>>> certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to
rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in >> >>>>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of
Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against >> >>>>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in >> >>>>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment
is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a
proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent >> >>>>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from
holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>>
The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on
state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of
course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable
conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of
grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer
who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from >> >>>>>>>> the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those
characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or
what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate
credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a >> >>>>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as
a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does
anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is
willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the >> >>>>> 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and
my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his
staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that
Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in >> >>>> as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit >> >>>> for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I >> >>>> did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed >> >>>> wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and >> >>> planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free
ride.

Read much? Trump’s transgressions were the worst and they continue.

They are? We were talking watergate and Hillary.

Maybe I am just a loonytarian but I consider lying us into a war that
kills thousands or even millions is worse but LBJ and GWB got a total
pass. What Trump is accused of doing doesn't even bump the needle.

My guess is when the dust settles he will have to pay some money for
some banking irregularities and that will be it.

===

You may be right about eventual penalties but I disagree with your premise that Trump's transgressions are not that serious. Consider that the constitution and democratic processes are the bedrock that our country is built on. Consider that the

orderly and peaceful transfer of power are an extremely important part of that democratic process. It is what separates us from being a third world banana republic where dictators stage periodic overthrows of government and attempt to rule for life. It is what has enabled our democracy to last for almost 250 years. It will not
last for another 250 however if we allow attempts to overthrow our electoral process to be taken lightly, and that is exactly what Trump attempted to do.

If a few hundred unarmed rednecks can overthrow our government we
should just give up now.
This was just stupid people doing something stupid. They all pretty
much had the book thrown at them and I haven't seen a sedition or
insurrection conviction yet.
What is telling about your outrage is the name of this thread.
They MUST find a way to stop Trump with this "investigation" and you
don't call it a partisan witch hunt?
Nobody wants to know what happened on Jan 6th because most of the
fault lies with an inept response from the Cap Po and the Sgt at arms
of the House. They are the chain of command that failed and the top of
that organization chart is Nancy. Was it pure incompetence or was of
part of a plan? Who knows but we are not going to find out in this dog
and pony show. Maybe if this is still going on next year the focus on
the riot might be what went wrong in the riot and not "how can we
blame this on Trump"?

As for Trump, why are you so scared of him?
Do you really think he can win again?
If so, who is meddling with a fair election and imperiling the
democracy now by using every trick you can find to torpedo his right
to run? The Soviets had elections too but the government decided who
could run. Is that who you want to be?

Personally I am already out there with my prediction if he runs. 2024
might be a rerun of 1824 with 3 parties splitting EC votes and the GOP
house gets to choose DeSantis or whoever the flavor of the month is
then..

It will be an interesting primary season
If Trump doesn't get the nomination he might run as a 3d party.
I think between them they can get enough votes to keep the Democrats
from getting 270.
We get to dust off the "contingent election" clause in the
Constitution and give everyone a Constitutional law lesson that will
really piss them off ;)

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On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:38:35 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 22:16:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote: >>>>>> On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart >>>>>>>> <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49
PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein
on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general >>>>>>>> under President Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril:
The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? >>>>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should >>>>>>>> focus on disqualifying former President Donald>>> Trump from office >>>>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is >>>>>>>> triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of >>>>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>> ironclad >>>>>>>> record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> >>>>>>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by
directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike
Pence to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had >>>>>>>> survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment >>>>>>>> requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify
in prime time. Pence is to the Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President
Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the
smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s
incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th Amendment to>>> thwart the >>>>>>>> peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s >>>>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke
the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret Service that>>> >>>>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> >>>>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple >>>>>>>> times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress >>>>>>>> certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to
rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in >>>>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of
Trump?s guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against >>>>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in >>>>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment
is used in noncriminal proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a
proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent >>>>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from >>>>>>>> holding any office under the United States pursuant to Section 3.>>>
The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on >>>>>>>> state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of
course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with impeccable
conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of >>>>>>>> grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer
who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from >>>>>>>> the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those >>>>>>>> characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or
what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate
credentials as a scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a >>>>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as
a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts.

Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to Obama's credentials. Nor does >>>>>>> anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a
poke.

Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough
and crooked enough.
--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

===

It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is >>>>> willing to light that match and fight that fight.
It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a Section 3 of the >>>>> 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire into relative obscurity and
my guess is that Trump will be treated the same way if he gets out of politics.

In ways that really matter, Trump's transgressions and those of his >>>> staff and advisers are far worse than Nixon's, but I don't disagree that
Ford's pardon of him was appropriate, especially since Nixon settled in >>>> as an elder statesman and not someone who, like Trump, cared not a whit >>>> for this country's political future. I wasn't a big fan of Nixon, but I >>>> did admire his intelligence, his abilities in diplomacy, and his
political chops...who but Nixon, a real Republican, could have imposed >>>> wage-price controls?

You think Watergate was bad, but Hillary and the electronic spying and >>> planted lies were many times worse. But the DNC and her seem to get a free
ride.

Read much? Trump’s transgressions were the worst and they continue.

They are? We were talking watergate and Hillary.

Maybe I am just a loonytarian but I consider lying us into a war that
kills thousands or even millions is worse but LBJ and GWB got a total
pass. What Trump is accused of doing doesn't even bump the needle.

My guess is when the dust settles he will have to pay some money for
some banking irregularities and that will be it.

===

You may be right about eventual penalties but I disagree with your premise that Trump's transgressions are not that serious. Consider that the constitution and democratic processes are the bedrock that our country is built on. Consider that the orderly
and peaceful transfer of power are an extremely important part of that democratic process. It is what separates us from being a third world banana republic where dictators stage periodic overthrows of government and attempt to rule for life. It is what
has enabled our democracy to last for almost 250 years. It will not last for another 250 however if we allow attempts to overthrow our electoral process to be taken lightly, and that is exactly what Trump attempted to do.

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"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:38:35 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 22:16:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill > <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > >> Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > >>>> On 6/18/22 9:20 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote: > >>>>>> On 6/18/22 5:23 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >>>>>>> Bill <
califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >>>>>>>> Keyser Soze <keyse...@whitehouse.com> wrote:> Justan Ohlphart > >>>>>>>> <m...@yourservice.com> wrote:>> Keyser Söze > >>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 6/17/22 5:49 > >

PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" > >>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com>> Wrote>>> in message:r>> Written by Bruce Fein > >>>>>>>> on "The Hill"Bruce Fein was>>> associate deputy attorney general > >>>>>>>> under President

Reagan and is the>>> author of ?Constitutional Peril: > >>>>>>>> The Life and Death Struggle for Our>>> Constitution and Democracy.? > >>>>>>>> The House committee investigating the Jan.>>> 6 insurrection should > >>>>>>>> focus on disqualifying former
President Donald>>> Trump from office > >>>>>>>> under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. >>> Disqualification is > >>>>>>>> triggered by engaging in ?insurrection against the>>> authority of > >>>>>>>> the United States.? The committee should assemble an>>

ironclad > >>>>>>>> record showing that Trump engaged in insurrection against the>>> > >>>>>>>> authority of the United States under the 12th Amendment by > >>>>>>>> directly,>>> repeatedly and menacingly exhorting Vice President Mike > >>>>>>>> Pence

to not>>> count state-certified electoral votes that had > >>>>>>>> survived more than 60>>> judicial challenges, as the amendment > >>>>>>>> requires. This means the committee>>> must subpoena Pence to testify > >>>>>>>> in prime time. Pence is to the
Jan. 6>>> insurrection what President > >>>>>>>> Nixon?s tapes were to Watergate. The former>>> vice president is the > >>>>>>>> smoking gun. He has direct, incontrovertible>>> knowledge of Trump?s > >>>>>>>> incessant cajolery to ignore the 12th
Amendment to>>> thwart the > >>>>>>>> peaceful transfer of presidential power.On Jan. 5, 2021,>>> Trump?s > >>>>>>>> implied threats to Pence reached a sufficient threshold to>>> provoke > >>>>>>>> the vice president?s chief-of-staff to alert Secret
Service that>>> > >>>>>>>> Trump might be a security risk for Pence. Pence betrayed Trump?s>>> > >>>>>>>> high-octave badgering by refusing to leave the Capitol multiple > >>>>>>>> times>>> during the Jan. 6 insurrection and insisting that Congress > >>>>

certify the>>> vote that day. Trump should be given an opportunity to > >>>>>>>> rebut the>>> evidence showing corrupt, unconstitutional motives in > >>>>>>>> menacing Pence.>>> Declining to testify would permit an inference of > >>>>>>>> Trump?s

guilt in spite>>> of the Fifth Amendment privilege against > >>>>>>>> compulsory self-incrimination>>> because the Supreme Court held in > >>>>>>>> Baxter v. Palmigiano that guilt may be>>> inferred when the amendment > >>>>>>>> is used in noncriminal
proceedings.After the>>> committee assembles a > >>>>>>>> proper record against Trump, Congress should vote>>> by concurrent > >>>>>>>> resolution to declare the former president disqualified>>> from > >>>>>>>> holding any office under the United States
pursuant to Section 3.>>> > >>>>>>>> The declaration would prevent Trump electors from appearing on > >>>>>>>> state>>> ballots in 2024.> > I don't care whar Bruce Fein thinks.> Of > >>>>>>>> course you>>> don't. Fein is a Constitutional lawyer with
impeccable > >>>>>>>> conservative>>> credentials.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of > >>>>>>>> grifters. *>> >> What's your point. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer > >>>>>>>> who has not so>> impeccable credentials. He and Biden are cut from > >>>>>>>>
the same cloth.>> What's particularily disturbing aboit those > >>>>>>>> characters is how>> they rush to judge without any knowlege of who or > >>>>>>>> what they are>> standing in judgement over. > > Obama has first-rate > >>>>>>>> credentials as a
scholar, a man, a father, a> politician, and as a > >>>>>>>> human being. Trump is a scumbag.> If he had first rate credentials as > >>>>>>>> a scholar, he would not hide hiscollege transcripts. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Fat Harry doesn't have a clue as to
Obama's credentials. Nor does > >>>>>>> anyone else. Soros and company sold us a pig in a > >>>>>>> poke. > >>>>>> Hopefully, Trump will be the pig in a pokey. He's certainly fat enough > >>>>>> and crooked enough. > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> * Lock up Trump
and his family of grifters. * > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> > >>>>> It will be interesting to see if and when the Justice Department is > >>>>> willing to light that match and fight that fight. > >>>>> It would probably be easier and safer to settle for a
Section 3 of the > >>>>> 14th Amendment. Nixon was allowed to retire

What separates us from being a third world banana republic is a
border with enforced regulations as to who gets to cross
it.
Queen Nancy gets full credit for allowing a peaceful protest turn
into a breach of congressional security. When democrats fuck up
who gets the blame? Trump naturally.
Clucky Chucky blames the Republican party for everything bad that
happens. Even crap that Chucky imagines that happened.
If you insist on hating Trump, thats fine but you don't need to
look under every rock hoping to find something to pin on him.
That's Fat Harry's mission in life. You're better than
that.
--
lets go Brandon...


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