• Re: Much worse...

    From True North@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 05:41:21 2022
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 09:17:38 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *


    Lock 'em up for sure but don't forget all the enablers and abetters who continually support Trump.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 08:17:33 2022
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to True North on Fri Jun 17 09:26:20 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 09:17:38 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the > attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than
    I imagined, and > that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to > overturn the election and remain in office. > -- > * Lock up Trump and his family of
    grifters. *Lock 'em up for sure but don't forget all the enablers and abetters who continually support Trump.

    Its your pal Fat Head who deserves to be locked up. Maybe he has
    been already. He disappeared from Rec.boats for some long
    stretches of time. Did you hear from him regularly during his
    long absences?
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to KeyserS├╢ze@whitehouse.com on Fri Jun 17 09:21:29 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to
    assassinate Mike Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to overturn the election and remain in office.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    If what you are asserting were true, Trump would be behind bars
    now awaiting trial for attempted murder. Fortunately, your
    assessments of the facts have been 99% inacurate in the past. It
    could be because you have dislexia, some sort of mental disorder,
    poor eyesight, or simply are predisposed to lie about everything.


    What's that case Mariner Financial has against you going to cost.
    I hope the judge throws the book at you. Will the Grears chip in
    to keep you out of jail.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Fri Jun 17 06:59:01 2022
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 10:26:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 09:17:38 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the > attempted coup was much deeper and more serious
    than I imagined, and > that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to > overturn the election and remain in office. > -- > * Lock up Trump and his family of
    grifters. *Lock 'em up for sure but don't forget all the enablers and abetters who continually support Trump.

    Its your pal Fat Head who deserves to be locked up. Maybe he has
    been already. He disappeared from Rec.boats for some long
    stretches of time. Did you hear from him regularly during his
    long absences?
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Keyser Soze@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Fri Jun 17 13:55:23 2022
    Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.-- * Lock up Trump and his
    family of grifters. *

    If what you are asserting were true, Trump would be behind bars
    now awaiting trial for attempted murder. Fortunately, your
    assessments of the facts have been 99% inacurate in the past. It
    could be because you have dislexia, some sort of mental disorder,
    poor eyesight, or simply are predisposed to lie about everything.



    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to Justan Ohlphart on Fri Jun 17 10:11:42 2022
    On 6/17/22 9:21 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to
    assassinate Mike Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to overturn the election and remain in office.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    If what you are asserting were true, Trump would be behind bars
    now awaiting trial for attempted murder. Fortunately, your
    assessments of the facts have been 99% inacurate in the past. It
    could be because you have dislexia, some sort of mental disorder,
    poor eyesight, or simply are predisposed to lie about everything.



    As with most things political, you have no knowledge of the facts.


    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to True North on Fri Jun 17 10:58:37 2022
    True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 10:26:22 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 09:17:38 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the > attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and > that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > because of the latter's refusal to
    participate in the Trump plan to > overturn the election and remain in office. > -- > * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *Lock 'em up for sure but don't forget all the enablers and abetters who continually support Trump. > > Its your pal Fat
    Head who deserves to be locked up. Maybe he has > been already. He disappeared from Rec.boats for some long > stretches of time. Did you hear from him regularly during his > long absences?> -- > lets go Brandon... > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- >
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlDid y'all ever think that he needed clean fresh air after suffering the stench of The John and his Bowl of Turds for years?

    The air here was much more pleasant while he was gone. Now it's
    starting to go foul again. What do you suppose is causing this
    to happen?
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com on Fri Jun 17 10:33:14 2022
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.

    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to KeyserS├╢ze@whitehouse.com on Fri Jun 17 11:07:08 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/17/22 9:21 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the attempted
    coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to overturn the election and remain in office.-- * Lock
    up Trump and his family of grifters. *> > If what you are asserting were true, Trump would be behind bars> now awaiting trial for attempted murder. Fortunately, your> assessments of the facts have been 99% inacurate in the past. It> could be
    because you have dislexia, some sort of mental disorder,> poor eyesight, or simply are predisposed to lie about everything.> >As with most things political, you have no knowledge of the facts.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    Good for you. You managed to do a whole post without vulgarities.
    Now train your pet monkey to do the same.
    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Fri Jun 17 11:22:55 2022
    gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:>According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and
    more serious than I imagined, and >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >overturn the election and remain in office.This is just a political witch
    hunt trying to prevent Trump fromrunning again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to thevoters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?

    It's how they roll. The impeachment ploys didn't work so they try
    the same tactics again. That fits Einsteins definition of
    insanity. Watch mainstream democrat office holders try to
    distance themselves from their leadership. Even Obama is shifting
    gears, after orchestrating this bizzare scenario, to salvage his
    party and preserve face.
    Pass the popcorn. It's going to get uglier.
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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Fri Jun 17 09:22:03 2022
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?

    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became
    undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great
    white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 14:52:08 2022
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
    Wrote in message:r
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze > <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > > >According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > >involvement of Trump
    himself and many of those closest to him in the > >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and > >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the
    Trump plan to > >overturn the election and remain in office.> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from > running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the > voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition
    party?===I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral
    process. Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's
    involvement became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is
    literally the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.

    The new CEO of CNN has. banned the use of the term THE BIG LIE.
    But don't let that stop you and Fat Harry from. continuing to
    drink from the same ol trough.
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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to KeyserS├╢ze@whitehouse.com on Fri Jun 17 15:17:47 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/17/22 2:52 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote in message:r>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze > <
    KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > > >According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the > >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and > >
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to > >overturn the election and remain in office.> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump
    from > running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the > voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?===I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and
    his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons.
    There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought
    into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.> > The new CEO of CNN has. banned the use of
    the term THE BIG LIE.> But don't let that stop you and Fat Harry from. continuing to> drink from the same ol trough.He wants staff to refer to Trump's bullshit as the ?Trump election lies? or ?election lies? to avoid appearing partisan. The guidance
    was not presented as a mandate. Does that make you feel better, shit-for-brains?-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    Sorry, I don't rekun you be tellin the truth.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 15:29:02 2022
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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to KeyserS├╢ze@whitehouse.com on Fri Jun 17 16:21:17 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/17/22 3:17 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r>> On 6/17/22 2:52 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>> Wrote in message:r>> On Friday, June
    17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze > <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > > >According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > >involvement of Trump himself and many
    of those closest to him in the > >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and > >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to > >
    overturn the election and remain in office.> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from > running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the > voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?===I
    disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became
    undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great
    white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.> > The new CEO of CNN has. banned the use of the term THE BIG LIE.> But don't let that stop you and Fat Harry from. continuing to> drink from the same ol trough.He wants staff to
    refer to Trump's bullshit as the ?Trump election lies? or ?election lies? to avoid appearing partisan. The guidance was not presented as a mandate. Does that make you feel better, shit-for-brains?-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *> > Sorry,
    I don't rekun you be tellin the truth. Easy enough for even a moron like you to check...-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    Its just a other witch hunt. Why bother. Americans have more
    important things on their minds.


    --
    lets go Brandon...


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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Fri Jun 17 17:02:40 2022
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 10:33:14 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >>because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>overturn the election and remain in office.

    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?


    Nothing will prevent him from running again bozo. Well, unless he's in
    prison of course.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Fri Jun 17 20:11:33 2022
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:22:03 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?

    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this
    time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud
    and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.

    Trump is beating Biden among likely voters in the Yahoo poll.

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to True North on Fri Jun 17 22:05:13 2022
    True North wrote:
    On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 09:17:38 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    Lock 'em up for sure but don't forget all the enablers and abetters who continually support Trump.

    You are worse than the MSM here.  You believe everything and even add
    insanely dumb commentary.

    FDW!

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 22:07:20 2022
    Keyser Söze wrote:
    On 6/17/22 9:21 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike
    Pence because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump
    plan to overturn the election and remain in office.-- * Lock up
    Trump and his family of grifters. *

    If what you are asserting were true, Trump would be behind bars
      now awaiting trial for attempted murder. Fortunately, your
      assessments of the facts have been 99% inacurate in the past. It
      could be because you have dislexia, some sort of mental disorder,
      poor eyesight, or simply are predisposed to lie about everything.


    As with most things political, you have no knowledge of the facts.



    Care to lose another wager?

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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 18 08:55:51 2022
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became
    undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white
    hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.

    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable
    them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 09:33:48 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became
    undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white
    hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable
    them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.

    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 18 10:05:33 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral
    process. Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement
    became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the
    great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to
    enable them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

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  • From Keyser Soze@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 18:24:23 2022
    345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >>>>>> because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been
    clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were
    trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods
    and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a
    number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate >>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of
    Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has >>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything
    possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally
    the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on
    stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily
    deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their
    heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of
    Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the
    panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you
    must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock
    market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?


    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.

    --
    Lock Trump Up

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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Soze on Sat Jun 18 12:30:41 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been
    clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a
    number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate >>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of
    Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has >>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything
    possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the >>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on
    stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily
    deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their
    heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right >> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid >> disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you
    must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.

    Whoosh!

    "Let's go, Brandon!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 18 13:45:12 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods
    and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally
    the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *
    your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation, shortages,
    world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 13:18:56 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything
    possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on
    stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily
    deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!


    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 17:52:28 2022
    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate >>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has >>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the >>>>>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right >>>>>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid >>>>>> disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of
    Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify >>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *
    your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation, shortages,
    world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.

    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 17:54:50 2022
    On 6/18/22 1:05 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence >>>>>> because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became
    undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white
    hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to
    enable them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    The kool-aid drinkers are the followers of Trump.

    --
    * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 18 18:23:18 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 5:52:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods
    and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally
    the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *
    your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation, shortages,
    world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.
    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.

    No one believes that the POTUS *sets* oil prices. However, the policies and actions of the POTUS can most certainly have an effect on the price of oil, and ultimately, gas at the pump. Surely you know that, right?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 18 18:25:10 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 5:54:53 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
    On 6/18/22 1:05 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral
    process. Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement
    became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the
    great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to
    enable them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?
    The kool-aid drinkers are the followers of Trump.

    Your lips are blue. Grape? Or lack of oxygen?

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to 345...@gmail.com on Sat Jun 18 21:31:58 2022
    "345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 5:52:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:> On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345.
    ..@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: > >>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> On Saturday,
    June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17
    Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze > >>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the > >>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in
    the > >>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and > >>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence > >>>>>>>>>> because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >
    overturn the election and remain in office. > >>>>>>>>> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from > >>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the > >>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan
    charade from the opposition party? > >>>>>>>> === > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been > >>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were > >>>>>>>> trying to overturn a
    legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods > >>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a > >>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly > >>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many
    parallels to the Nixon Watergate > >>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of > >>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became > >>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the
    entire GOP has > >>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything > >>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally > >>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it
    that way. > >>>>>>> If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her > >>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the > >>>>>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on > >>>>>>>
    stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily > >>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the > >>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, > >>>>>>> it is the very
    definition of a partisan witch hunt. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats > >>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their > >>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that
    cruiser. > >>>>>> === > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right > >>>>>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two > >>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the
    Trump Kool-Aid > >>>>>> disqualify them in some way? > >>>>> > >>>>> Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of > >>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you? > >>>>> > >>>>> The two Republicans that Pelosi and
    company allowed to be part of the > >>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify > >>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you > >>>>> must tow the official line. > >>>>> > >>>>> Heh.
    Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock > >>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes? > >>>>> > >>>> Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices. > >>> Whoosh! > >>> > >> === > >> > >> Whoosh yourself.
    The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a free
    market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist. > > > > The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're
    the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *your* posit and ran with it. > > > > So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us
    do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Amer

    Don't bet on it.
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to keysersoze@whitehouse.com on Sun Jun 19 00:09:25 2022
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 18:24:23 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze <keysersoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the >>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and >>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been
    clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were
    trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a
    number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate >>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of
    Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became
    inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has >>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything
    possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the >>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on
    stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily
    deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their
    heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right >>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two
    Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid >>> disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of
    Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the
    panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you
    must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock
    market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?


    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.

    They sure blamed Jerry Ford for the gas prices.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 19 00:03:15 2022
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 09:33:48 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time
    is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to
    enable them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.

    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

    The committee picked the two they have because they have an axe to
    grind against Trump too.

    This is not an investigation of January 6. It is just an attempt to
    blame it all on Trump.
    Why aren't they trying to figure out how a rabble of unarmed yahoos
    were able to take and occupy the Capitol building in the most policed
    city in the country if not the world.

    Nancy's people had over a month to plan on this and the legislative
    branch made the decision the Cap Po was all they needed, pretty much
    situation normal and they didn't even use all of them, nor did they
    actually have a plan for what to do if it went sideways.
    A suspicious person would say they wanted a shit show and they got
    one.
    It is certainly not the "threat to democracy" you folks claim it was.
    If a few hundred unarmed rednecks can overthrow the government, maybe
    we should just run up the white flag now.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 19 00:17:09 2022
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 09:33:48 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from
    running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?
    ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods and scheming to subvert the electoral process.
    Doing so involved a number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became inevitable. The difference this time
    is that almost the entire GOP has bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on stacking the deck with their chosen few to
    enable them to speedily deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.

    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid disqualify them in some way?

    You said it yourself, the product responds to the world price. From
    there the cost is pumped up by delivery cost and taxes. Both are much
    higher in Europe and even Canada
    The US has the lowest gas taxes of any western democracy. We also have
    lower delivery cost
    Biden is still taking his bite but a lot of governors are padding
    their votes with a gas tax cut. I was just in Georgia and they have no
    state gas tax. It was cheaper there. Ronnie D is promising his cut
    right before the election. Joe might too.
    .

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com on Sun Jun 19 00:20:20 2022
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:52:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify >>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell
    to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *
    your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation,
    shortages, world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near
    future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.

    The president can enact policies that impact the gas price world wide.

    You can't look at energy prices without looking at the war in Ukraine
    and I don't believe the US acted in the best interest of Ukraine or
    the US in that debacle.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 19 07:11:09 2022
    On 6/18/2022 5:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4,
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4,
    waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4,
    waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him >>>>>>>>>>> in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I
    imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate >>>>>>>>>>> Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump >>>>>>>>>>> plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up >>>>>>>>>> to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors >>>>>>>>> were
    trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing
    falsehoods
    and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, >>>>>>>>> mostly
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon >>>>>>>>> Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire >>>>>>>>> GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is
    literally
    the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to >>>>>>>>> keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated >>>>>>>> on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices >>>>>>>> on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding
    mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the
    Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in >>>>>>>> their
    heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the
    world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump
    Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically
    qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have
    eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide
    auction market having very little to do with presidential actions,
    and everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a
    free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the
    lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest
    you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called
    *you* a moron.  You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the
    cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we
    can thank Biden for that."  My comment just took *your* posit and ran
    with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do?  And is
    it not at a all time high?  I doubt any Americans care what it costs
    compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*.
    That point, along with inflation, shortages, world wide instability,
    etc. won't elude  the American voters in the near future.  As always,
    the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad.  Sleepy joe is
    in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.


    The POTUS doesn't "set" oil prices but his or her administration's
    policies can sure influence what the consumer pays at the pump or
    to heat their homes.



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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Sun Jun 19 08:34:48 2022
    On 6/19/22 7:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 6/18/2022 5:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.


    The POTUS doesn't "set" oil prices but his or her administration's
    policies can sure influence what the consumer pays at the pump or
    to heat their homes.

    Some administration policies may have impact on prices, but the reality
    is that oil is a worldwide commodity and its price is impacted by dozens
    of events, many related and many not. Keep in mind that Big Oil is
    making huge profits at the moment and at any other time the price of
    crude is more than $50 a barrel, and Brent crude is around $120 a
    barrel. Greed, oh, and Europe cutting back on importations of Russian
    energy and getting oil from places farther away have a major impact.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Keyser_S=c3=b6ze?=@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sun Jun 19 08:39:53 2022
    On 6/19/22 12:20 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:52:28 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify >>>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell
    to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *
    your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation,
    shortages, world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near
    future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.

    The president can enact policies that impact the gas price world wide.

    You can't look at energy prices without looking at the war in Ukraine
    and I don't believe the US acted in the best interest of Ukraine or
    the US in that debacle.

    Allowing the Russians to begin rebuilding the Soviet empire by rolling
    through the Ukraine was in the best interests of the Ukrainians? Is that
    the Rand Paul Loonytarian take?

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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sun Jun 19 07:01:13 2022
    On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 12:02:56 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

    A suspicious person would say they wanted a shit show and they got
    one.
    It is certainly not the "threat to democracy" you folks claim it was.
    If a few hundred unarmed rednecks can overthrow the government, maybe
    we should just run up the white flag now.

    I've been saying just that all along. The "democracy" was never in any danger. The idea that "a few hundred rednecks" could overthrow the US is laughable.
    It was a minor staged skirmish during which *one* person died... an unarmed woman.

    A real enquiry into Jan 6th would include how and why there was such a minor police presence, and how things got as far out of hand as they did. But
    nobody currently in charge on the hill wants that to come out.

    Kabuki theater on steroids.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 19 11:11:07 2022
    On 6/19/2022 8:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
    On 6/19/22 7:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 6/18/2022 5:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.


    The POTUS doesn't "set" oil prices but his or her administration's
    policies can sure influence what the consumer pays at the pump or
    to heat their homes.

    Some administration policies may have impact on prices, but the reality
    is that oil is a worldwide commodity and its price is impacted by dozens
    of events, many related and many not. Keep in mind that Big Oil is
    making huge profits at the moment and at any other time the price of
    crude is more than $50 a barrel, and Brent crude is around $120 a
    barrel. Greed, oh, and Europe cutting back on importations of Russian
    energy and getting oil from places farther away have a major impact.



    You've been listening to Bernie Sanders too much. :-)

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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to KeyserS├╢ze@whitehouse.com on Sun Jun 19 17:09:32 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/19/22 12:20 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:52:28 -0400, Keyser Söze> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:> >> On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@
    hotmail.com wrote:>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:>>>>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at
    12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022
    at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the>>>>>>>>>>>>
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and>>>>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence>>>>>>>>>>>> because
    of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to>>>>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from>>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't
    that be up to the>>>>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?>>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been>>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key
    advisors were>>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods>>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a>>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly>>>>>>>
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate>>>>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of>>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became>>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The
    difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has>>>>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything>>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally>>>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the
    Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.>>>>>>>>> If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her>>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the>>>>>>>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't
    shows that they were intent on>>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily>>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the>>>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-
    finding mission,>>>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats>>>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their>>>>>>>>>
    heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right>>>>>>>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two>>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel.
    Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid>>>>>>>> disqualify them in some way?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of>>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The two
    Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the>>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify>>>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you>>>>>>> must tow the official line.>>>
    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock>>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.>>>>> Whoosh!>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>> Whoosh
    yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you
    are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell> to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.>>>>>> The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a
    moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *your* posit and ran with it.>>>>>> So, do you buy gas here in the US as
    virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt a

    Greg speaks pretty good English and I'm pretty sure he didn't say
    anything that would cause a sane person to react the way you
    did.
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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Sun Jun 19 17:25:43 2022
    "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/18/2022 5:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:> On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, >> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:>>>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, >>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:
    55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com >>>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17
    Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the>>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him >>>>>>>>>>>
    in the>>>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I >>>>>>>>>>> imagined, and>>>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate >>>>>>>>>>> Mike Pence>>>>>>>>>>> because of the latter's refusal to participate
    in the Trump >>>>>>>>>>> plan to>>>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.>>>>>>>>>> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up >>>>>>>>>> to the>>>
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party?>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors >>>>>>>>> were>>
    trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing >>>>>>>>> falsehoods>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, >>>>>>>>> mostly>>>>>
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon >>>>>>>>> Watergate>>>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became>>>>>>>>> inevitable.
    The difference this time is that almost the entire >>>>>>>>> GOP has>>>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is >>>>>>>>> literally>>>>>>>>> the great
    white hope of the Republican party and they hope to >>>>>>>>> keep it that way.>>>>>>>> If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated >>>>>>>> on the>>>>>>>>
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices >>>>>>>> on the>>>>>>>> panel to offer
    opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding >>>>>>>> mission,>>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the >>>>>>>> Democrats>>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their
    mess while chasing the Trump demons in >>>>>>>> their>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the >>>>>>> world right>>>>>>> now so I guess we can thank
    Biden for that. There are in fact two>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump >>>>>>> Kool-Aid>>>>>>> disqualify them in some way?>>>>>>>>>>>> Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of>>>>>>
    Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?>>>>>>>>>>>> The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically >>>>>> qualify>>>>>> one to be on the panel?
    Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you>>>>>> must tow the official line.>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?>>>>>>>>>>> Every moron
    knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.>>>> Whoosh!>>>>>>> ===>>>>>> Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have >>> eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide >>> auction market having very little to do with
    presidential actions, >>> and everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a >>> free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the >>> lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest >>> you might be
    a communist.>>>> The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called >> *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the >> cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we >> can thank Biden for that."
    My comment just took *your* posit and ran >> with it.>>>> So,

    Lets not jump the gun with this "her administration's policies" stuff.
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to 3452471@gmail.com on Sun Jun 19 17:57:46 2022
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 12:02:56 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

    A suspicious person would say they wanted a shit show and they got
    one.
    It is certainly not the "threat to democracy" you folks claim it was.
    If a few hundred unarmed rednecks can overthrow the government, maybe
    we should just run up the white flag now.

    I've been saying just that all along. The "democracy" was never in any danger. The idea that "a few hundred rednecks" could overthrow the US is laughable.
    It was a minor staged skirmish during which *one* person died... an unarmed woman.

    A real enquiry into Jan 6th would include how and why there was such a minor police presence, and how things got as far out of hand as they did. But
    nobody currently in charge on the hill wants that to come out.

    Kabuki theater on steroids.

    The major problem is because of the separation of powers and the turf
    wars in DC, The legislative branch is responsible for the security at
    the Capitol and that lands on Nancy's desk. She has no interest in
    having any bread crumbs leading that way.
    This is not an investigation of Jan 6 or what happened. It is just a
    crusade to blame the whole thing on Trump. Wayne is the first one to
    point it out. They missed their chance in two separate impeachments
    and now they are holding on to the last tenuous thread of invoking the
    14th amendment to stop him politically.
    That might have a glimmer of hope if they could actually get an
    insurrection charge to stick against the hundreds of defendants
    arrested after that riot. So far it is just trespassing and assault
    charges, pretty much what would have come out of any BLM riot if
    anyone was interested in charging anyone.
    I guess they saw the Yahoo poll of likely voters that said Trump beats
    Biden if the election was held today. Biden's position gets weaker
    every day as inflation rages and working class democrats are feeling
    it the worst. The democrats are at the "Piss on a spark plug" stage.
    (War Games movie reference)

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com on Sun Jun 19 17:47:11 2022
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 08:39:53 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    On 6/19/22 12:20 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:52:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: >>>>>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods
    and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly
    for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally
    the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the
    panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify
    one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand.
    Presumably you are a free market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell
    to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took
    *your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point, along with inflation,
    shortages, world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near
    future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.

    The president can enact policies that impact the gas price world wide.

    You can't look at energy prices without looking at the war in Ukraine
    and I don't believe the US acted in the best interest of Ukraine or
    the US in that debacle.

    Allowing the Russians to begin rebuilding the Soviet empire by rolling >through the Ukraine was in the best interests of the Ukrainians? Is that
    the Rand Paul Loonytarian take?

    It is just facts.
    Putin offered up a deal before the war really even got started
    That if the Donbass region was allowed independence from Kiev,
    That he could keep the crimea that he already had,
    They have a cease fire
    and Ukraine not join NATO
    he would stand down.
    Right now that looks like a pretty good deal.
    We should have used our influence to promote it.
    We have certainly made far more odious deals in the name of world
    peace.
    Biden has come very close to starting WWIII, pretty much for no gain.
    Ukraine has lost most of their infrastructure and their way of life
    defending the part of the country Putin didn't want in the first place
    and he is firmly lodged in the part he wanted with far more local
    support than we like to admit.
    I don't see that ever going back.
    What would you have done? Bomb Moscow?
    Dr Strangelove would be proud.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to me@yourservice.com on Sun Jun 19 17:59:07 2022
    On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 17:09:32 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
    <me@yourservice.com> wrote:

    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/19/22 12:20 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:52:28 -0400, Keyser Söze> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:> >> On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4,
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4,
    345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:>>>>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>> On Saturday,
    June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com>
    wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors,
    involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and>>>>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence>>>>
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to>>>>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from>>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the>>>>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan
    charade from the opposition party?>>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been>>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were>>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods>>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the
    electoral process. Doing so involved a>>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that
    have
    not yet been prosecuted, mostly>>>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate>>>>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of>>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment
    became>>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has>>>>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything>>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally>>>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.>>>>
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and
    cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the>>>>>>>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on>>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily>>>>>>>>> deliver
    the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the>>>>>>>>> panel to offer
    opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,>>>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats>>>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while
    chasing the Trump demons in their>>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that
    cruiser.>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right>>>>>>>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two>>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the
    Trump Kool-Aid>>>>>>>> disqualify them in some way?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gas prices are at
    an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of>>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the>>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide
    automatically qualify>>>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To >be on the panel you>>>>>>> must tow the official line.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock>>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every moron knows the POTUS sets
    gasoline prices.>>>>> Whoosh!>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>> Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a free market
    conservative? Would you order refineries to sell> to the lowest bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.>>>>>> The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you* a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the
    world right now so I guess we can thank Biden for that." My comment just took *your*
    posit and ran with it.>>>>>> So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*. That point,
    along with inflation, shortages, world wide instability, etc. won't elude the American voters in the near> future. As always, the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.>>>> No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was>> aimed at
    the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do>> with the setting of oil prices.> > The president can enact policies that impact the gas price world wide.> > You can't look at energy prices without looking at the war in Ukraine> and I don't believe the US acted in the best interest of Ukraine or> the US in that debacle.
    Allowing the Russians to begin rebuilding the Soviet empire by rolling through the
    Ukraine was in the best interests of the Ukrainians? Is that the Rand Paul Loonytarian take?-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

    Greg speaks pretty good English and I'm pretty sure he didn't say
    anything that would cause a sane person to react the way you
    did.

    That is Harry's knee jerk response to anything that doesn't fit his
    lock step political views.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com on Sun Jun 19 22:11:14 2022
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to >>>>>>>>>>> overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the >>>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission, >>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats >>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify >>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have
    eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide
    auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and
    everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a free
    market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest
    bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you*
    a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest
    gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank
    Biden for that." My comment just took *your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it
    not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs
    compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*.
    That point, along with inflation, shortages, world wide instability,
    etc. won't elude the American voters in the near future. As always,
    the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in
    a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.


    The POTUS definitely is responsible! He is the CEO of our government, so therefore he gets the blame as well as any kudos.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to Bill on Mon Jun 20 06:42:28 2022
    On 6/19/2022 6:11 PM, Bill wrote:
    Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
    On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
    345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
    <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

    According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the >>>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to him in the
    attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and
    that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence
    because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan to
    overturn the election and remain in office.
    This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from >>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the
    voters and not a partisan charade from the opposition party? >>>>>>>>>> ===

    I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been >>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were >>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods >>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a >>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly >>>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many parallels to the Nixon Watergate
    scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of >>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became >>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire GOP has
    bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything >>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally >>>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her >>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the
    panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on >>>>>>>>> stacking the deck with their chosen few to enable them to speedily >>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the >>>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,
    it is the very definition of a partisan witch hunt.

    Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats
    do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their >>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.
    ===

    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right
    now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two >>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid
    disqualify them in some way?

    Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of >>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?

    The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of the >>>>>>> panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify >>>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you >>>>>>> must tow the official line.

    Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices were low and the stock >>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?

    Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.
    Whoosh!

    ===

    Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to have
    eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide
    auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and >>>> everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a free
    market conservative? Would you order refineries to sell to the lowest
    bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.

    The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you*
    a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The US has some of the cheapest
    gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank
    Biden for that." My comment just took *your* posit and ran with it.

    So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it
    not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care what it costs
    compared to other countries, a point that seems to have eluded *you*.
    That point, along with inflation, shortages, world wide instability,
    etc. won't elude the American voters in the near future. As always,
    the buck stops at the desk of the POTUS, good or bad. Sleepy joe is in
    a shitstorm, and most of it is his own making.

    No, I didn't call or refer to Wayne as a moron. The moron comment was
    aimed at the morons who believe the POTUS has anything serious to do
    with the setting of oil prices.


    The POTUS definitely is responsible! He is the CEO of our government, so therefore he gets the blame as well as any kudos.



    It's funny how the left likes to claim "It happened on his watch" when assigning blame to a Republican president for problems that occur during
    his time in office but when it's a Democrat in the White House problems
    are beyond his control or responsibility.

    I get a kick out of Harry (and Bernie's) arguments about Big Oil profits.

    First, both of them point out that oil is a commodity with
    it's price controlled by many world wide events/situations.

    But in their next breath they blame Big Oil's excessive profits.

    Which is it?



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  • From Justan Ohlphart@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Mon Jun 20 09:00:11 2022
    "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/19/2022 6:11 PM, Bill wrote:> Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:>> On 6/18/22 4:45 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:18:59 PM UTC-4, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at
    3:30:44 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:24:25 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:>>>>>> 345...@gmail.com <345...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:33:51 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:33:07 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:17:33 -0400, Keyser Söze>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to sworn testimony of Trump's staff and advisors, the>>>>>>>>>>>> involvement of Trump himself and many of those closest to
    him in the>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted coup was much deeper and more serious than I imagined, and>>>>>>>>>>>> that Trump knew of and encouraged the attempts to assassinate Mike Pence>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the latter's refusal to participate in the Trump plan
    overturn the election and remain in office.>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a political witch hunt trying to prevent Trump from>>>>>>>>>>> running again, same as the impeachments. Shouldn't that be up to the>>>>>>>>>>> voters and not a partisan
    charade from the opposition party?>>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree that this is "just a political witch hunt." It has been>>>>>>>>>> clear to me from the beginning that Trump and his key advisors were>>>>>>>>>> trying to overturn a
    legitimate election by manufacturing falsehoods>>>>>>>>>> and scheming to subvert the electoral process. Doing so involved a>>>>>>>>>> number of criminal actions that have not yet been prosecuted, mostly>>>>>>>>>> for political reasons. There are many
    parallels to the Nixon Watergate>>>>>>>>>> scandal. That investigation also dragged on until the evidence of>>>>>>>>>> Nixon's involvement became undeniable and impeachment became>>>>>>>>>> inevitable. The difference this time is that almost the entire
    GOP has>>>>>>>>>> bought into the big lie of election fraud and will do everything>>>>>>>>>> possible to keep Trump's political power in play. Trump is literally>>>>>>>>>> the great white hope of the Republican party and they hope to keep it that way.>>>>
    If it were anything but a partisan witch hunt, old Nancy and her>>>>>>>>> cohorts would have allowed the Republican's choices to be seated on the>>>>>>>>> panel. The fact that they wouldn't shows that they were intent on>>>>>>>>> stacking the deck
    with their chosen few to enable them to speedily>>>>>>>>> deliver the outcome they desired without any dissenting voices on the>>>>>>>>> panel to offer opposing viewpoints. This isn't a fact-finding mission,>>>>>>>>> it is the very definition of a
    partisan witch hunt.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile Rome continues to burn, the Titanic sinks, and the Democrats>>>>>>>>> do nothing to fix their mess while chasing the Trump demons in their>>>>>>>>> heads. Enjoy filling the tank of that cruiser.>>>>>>>> ===
    The US has some of the cheapest gas and diesel prices in the world right>>>>>>>> now so I guess we can thank Biden for that. There are in fact two>>>>>>>> Republicans on the panel. Does their failure to drink the Trump Kool-Aid>>>>>>>>
    disqualify them in some way?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gas prices are at an all-time high in the US. The vast majority of>>>>>>> Americans don't buy our gas in other countries. Do you?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The two Republicans that Pelosi and company allowed to be part of
    panel. Does drinking the liberal Pelosi Kool-aide automatically qualify>>>>>>> one to be on the panel? Obviously it does, eh? To be on the panel you>>>>>>> must tow the official line.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. Before Biden took office, the gas prices
    were low and the stock>>>>>>> market was booming. I guess we can thank Trump for that, yes?>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every moron knows the POTUS sets gasoline prices.>>>>> Whoosh!>>>>>>>>> ===>>>>>>>> Whoosh yourself. The point about energy pricing, which seems to
    have>>>> eluded you, is that energy pricing is determined by a world wide>>>> auction market having very little to do with presidential actions, and>>>> everything to do with supply and demand. Presumably you are a free>>>> market conservative? Would you
    order refineries to sell to the lowest>>>> bidder or the highest bidder? Careful here, if you say lowest you might be a communist.>>>>>> The whoosh comment was to the fatboy, not you. Besides, he called *you*>>> a moron. You're the one that wrote, "The
    US has some of the cheapest>>> gas and diesel prices in the world right now so I guess we can thank>>> Biden for that." My comment just took *your* posit and ran with it.>>>>>> So, do you buy gas here in the US as virtually all of us do? And is it>>>
    not at a all time high? I doubt any Americans care wha

    Fat Harry is smart enough to figure things out, but he comes
    across as dumb as a box of rocks as he tows the democratic mark.
    It scares me to think that about half of Americans are that
    stupid. It never used to matter much which party held the White
    house, but nowadays it sure does.
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