• Prague Newspaper Quote (maybe)

    From John@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 18:24:58 2021
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."
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    Freedom Isn't Free!

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to John on Mon Oct 4 08:38:14 2021
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!


    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Mon Oct 4 06:54:31 2021
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 4 16:51:57 2021
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>> president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
    the Trump worship continues.


    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the
    better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his
    Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
    immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Mon Oct 4 11:26:04 2021
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,
    middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
    the Trump worship continues.


    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything >Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the >better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did >well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle >East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his >Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
    immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

    Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 4 14:32:03 2021
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >> > president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.

    Neither party has had a decent candidate for decades. It certainly
    wasn't the Bush/Clinton cabal, including the tan one and the people
    they put up against them were worse.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 4 15:34:52 2021
    On 10/4/2021 9:54 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>> president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.


    I don't disagree with you. The progressive liberal movement has been
    brewing for a long time though ... well before Trump. He put a
    temporary stop to it but now the progressive left is using *him*
    to gain increasing political clout.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon Oct 4 17:24:39 2021
    gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John
    wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can
    quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
    citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
    have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that
    made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot
    on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats
    had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got
    us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that'
    s not even close to reality.

    Really?
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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to justan on Tue Oct 5 10:29:44 2021
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't
    know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man
    for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
    prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on.
    Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats
    had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us
    out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not
    even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?

    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 5 17:09:13 2021
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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 5 20:45:54 2021
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
    wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
    Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
    10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
    true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the
    USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way
    that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the
    Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was
    translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper.
    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry >>>>>>>>>>> capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. >>>>>>>>>>> It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a >>>>>>>>>>> Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good
    judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>>
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than >>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . >>>>>>>>>>> Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast
    confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The >>>>>>>>>>> Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. >>>>>>>>>>> It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as >>>>>>>>>>> those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't >>>>>>>>>>> see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what >>>>>>>>>>> they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* >>>>>>>>>>> people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president >>>>>>>>>>> if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, >>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 >>>>>>>>>>> years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think >>>>>>>>>>> Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. >>>>>>>>>>> Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. >>>>>>>>>>> Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East
    debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than >>>>>>>>>>> his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He >>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress >>>>>>>>>>> cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ==
    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?

    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
    was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
    pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.


    He questioned the election process. Which is very valid. We just had a
    recall election for the Governor. Lots of people,complaining that when
    they tried to vote, they were told they already voted. Why all the left pushback to voter ID? They like dead people voting, ala Chicago? And
    where did he push an insurrection? His followers demonstrated, but seems
    as if ANTIFA, and BLM did the same and worse. Where is their chargers?
    As to question of voting outcome, Gore seems to have got a free pass on
    hanging chads. Where is the insurrection investigation? What other bad
    things did he do as POTUS? Questions about China? Telling Europe to pay
    for their defense? Pay their share of the UN?

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Tue Oct 5 15:57:26 2021
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don'
    t know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man
    for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
    prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on.
    Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats
    had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us
    out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not
    even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of
    informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 6 01:04:16 2021
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
    Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On >>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is >>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help
    the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a >>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from
    the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It
    was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
    newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
    citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
    Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies >>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>>> >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a >>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far >>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what >>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not >>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their >>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, >>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of >>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
    hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
    generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
    what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
    president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
    candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
    down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as
    one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as
    POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
    extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
    other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
    addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that
    was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
    was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
    pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers. >>>
    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
    only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
    trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ==
    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
    Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
    transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
    were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
    something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
    deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger


    And that is insurrection?

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to Bill on Wed Oct 6 01:27:42 2021
    Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On >>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On >>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is >>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help >>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a >>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from >>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It >>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
    newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a >>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
    Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies >>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>>>>>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a >>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far >>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what >>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not >>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their >>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, >>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of >>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
    hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
    generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
    what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
    president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
    candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
    down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized
    as
    one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an Ahole. But as
    POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
    extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
    other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
    addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation,
    that
    was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He >>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
    pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers. >>>>
    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened >>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
    trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ==
    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
    Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
    transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
    Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
    errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
    were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
    something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
    deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
    charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger


    And that is insurrection?



    Oh, yeah. Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.
    Questioning the Georgia SOS is now insurrection?

    Seems as if more action was done in 2000, and continued long after the inauguration.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 5 22:16:40 2021
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:57:26 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don'
    t know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
    have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
    that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>>
    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked
    for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay
    their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.
    Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
    only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
    trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of
    informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

    You are still leaping to an illogical conclusion if you equate
    questioning an election result and a violent riot with insurrection.
    One quick question. How serious was the insurrection is the most
    heavily armed population on the planet went into the capitol, unarmed.
    The only person who was shot was shot by the government and she was
    unarmed.
    You can't say that about the "benign" BLM riots.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Wed Oct 6 12:47:20 2021
    "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr..
    .@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has
    it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit
    and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden,
    who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is
    less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want,
    another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican
    party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be
    recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets,
    what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.>>>> Really?> > ===> >> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as
    President?> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog
    supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an investigation going on to
    determine what part, if any, Trump had a handin this.Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts, then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him.
    :-)

    WAYNE FORGETS ABOUT THE EXTORSION THAT SLOW JOE CARRIED OUT, FOR
    THE BENEFIT OF HIS SON, AGAINST THE UKRAINE WHILE THE CAMERAS
    WERE ROLLING. WHEN DO YOU SUPPOSE BIDENS TRIAL WILL
    BEGIN?
    --
    Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet?


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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Wed Oct 6 09:17:06 2021
    On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>>
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man
    for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
    prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on.
    Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats
    had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us
    out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not
    even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? >>>



    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened >> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand >> in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of >> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed
    speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

    It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to overthrow the government.

    ===

    Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to justan on Sat Oct 9 07:15:43 2021
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:47:20 -0400 (EDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr.
    ..@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has
    it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier
    to
    limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr.
    Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool.
    It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they
    want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
    president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75
    years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend.
    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.>>>> Really?> > ===> >> So, other than his>Tweets,
    what did he really do wrong as President?> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was
    justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened only 7 days after the alleged
    insurrection. There's still an investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a handin this.Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    WAYNE FORGETS ABOUT THE EXTORSION THAT SLOW JOE CARRIED OUT, FOR
    THE BENEFIT OF HIS SON, AGAINST THE UKRAINE WHILE THE CAMERAS
    WERE ROLLING. WHEN DO YOU SUPPOSE BIDENS TRIAL WILL
    BEGIN?

    How's the weather in Moscow dickhead?

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sat Oct 9 07:16:24 2021
    On Mon, 04 Oct 2021 14:32:03 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>> > president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



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    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

    ===

    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.

    Neither party has had a decent candidate for decades. It certainly
    wasn't the Bush/Clinton cabal, including the tan one and the people
    they put up against them were worse.

    Of course, you're just an idiot. So, how would you know?

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Sat Oct 9 07:16:52 2021
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
    Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
    has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
    newspaper.

    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president."
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
    left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
    and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.



    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

    ===

    Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,
    middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
    the Trump worship continues.


    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything >Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the >better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did >well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle >East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his >Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
    immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

    Spoofer!

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Sat Oct 9 07:17:18 2021
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 20:45:54 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
    Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
    10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
    true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the >>>> USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way
    that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the
    Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was
    translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper.
    "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry >>>>>>>>>>>> capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. >>>>>>>>>>>> It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a >>>>>>>>>>>> Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good
    judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>>
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than >>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . >>>>>>>>>>>> Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast
    confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>> Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. >>>>>>>>>>>> It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as >>>>>>>>>>>> those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't >>>>>>>>>>>> see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what >>>>>>>>>>>> they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* >>>>>>>>>>>> people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president >>>>>>>>>>>> if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, >>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. >>>>>>>>>>>> Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. >>>>>>>>>>>> Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East
    debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than >>>>>>>>>>>> his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He >>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress >>>>>>>>>>>> cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ==
    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?

    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
    was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
    pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.


    He questioned the election process. Which is very valid. We just had a >recall election for the Governor. Lots of people,complaining that when
    they tried to vote, they were told they already voted. Why all the left >pushback to voter ID? They like dead people voting, ala Chicago? And
    where did he push an insurrection? His followers demonstrated, but seems
    as if ANTIFA, and BLM did the same and worse. Where is their chargers?
    As to question of voting outcome, Gore seems to have got a free pass on >hanging chads. Where is the insurrection investigation? What other bad >things did he do as POTUS? Questions about China? Telling Europe to pay
    for their defense? Pay their share of the UN?

    Spoofer and stupid. Can't spell.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Sat Oct 9 07:17:36 2021
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 01:04:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On >>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On >>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is >>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help >>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a >>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from >>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It >>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
    newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a >>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
    Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies >>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>>>> >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a >>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far >>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what >>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not >>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their >>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, >>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of >>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
    hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
    generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
    what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
    president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
    candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
    down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as
    one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as
    POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
    extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
    other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
    addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that
    was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He >>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
    pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers. >>>>
    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened >>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
    trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ==
    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
    Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
    transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
    Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
    errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
    were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
    something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
    deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
    charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger


    And that is insurrection?

    And, you're a dumbshit.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Sat Oct 9 07:18:08 2021
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 01:27:42 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On >>>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On >>>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is >>>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
    Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help >>>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a >>>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from >>>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It >>>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
    newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a >>>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
    Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies >>>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>>>>>>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a >>>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far >>>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what >>>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their >>>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, >>>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of >>>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
    hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
    generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
    what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
    viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
    president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
    candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
    continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
    down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized
    as
    one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an Ahole. But as
    POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
    extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
    other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
    addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation,
    that
    was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? >>>>>



    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
    constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He >>>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't >>>>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers. >>>>>
    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened >>>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand >>>> in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of >>>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ==
    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
    Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
    transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad >>> Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral >>> errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there >>> were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
    something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
    deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
    charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger


    And that is insurrection?



    Oh, yeah. Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or >government.
    Questioning the Georgia SOS is now insurrection?

    Seems as if more action was done in 2000, and continued long after the >inauguration.

    Stupid fuck aren't you...

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  • From John@21:1/5 to wayne.beardsley@gmail.com on Mon Oct 11 14:38:12 2021
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>>
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
    have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
    that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>>
    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked
    for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay
    their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.
    Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?




    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened >> >> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand >> >> in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of >> >> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
    then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed
    speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

    It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the
    election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to
    overthrow the government.

    ===

    Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.

    Spreading the bullshit again, Wayne? Go back and answer some of the pertinent questlions in this thread that you conveniently overlooked. Reminds me of someone else.
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John H on Mon Oct 11 12:01:53 2021
    On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 2:37:50 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
    gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>>
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
    have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
    that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>>
    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked
    for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay
    their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.
    Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? >> >>>



    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
    only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
    in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
    trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts, >> >> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed
    speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

    It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the
    election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to
    overthrow the government.

    ===

    Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.
    Spreading the bullshit again, Wayne? Go back and answer some of the pertinent
    questlions in this thread that you conveniently overlooked. Reminds me of someone else.
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    ===

    What part of what I said is bullshit, or are you referring to Trump's bullshit about how the election was stolen from him? Eleven months after the election he is still spouting that crap to his true believers despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 12 12:30:24 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 06:58:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2021 3:01 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 2:37:50 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
    <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>> On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: >>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>>
    Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>>
    understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing
    to
    have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
    that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>>
    Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked
    for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
    BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay
    their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.
    Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

    Really?

    ===

    So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? >>>>>>>>



    So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

    There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

    I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
    only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
    investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand >>>>>>> in this.

    Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of >>>>>>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts, >>>>>>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

    ===

    I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores
    Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed
    speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought. >>>>>>
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

    It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the >>>>> election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to >>>>> overthrow the government.

    ===

    Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.
    Spreading the bullshit again, Wayne? Go back and answer some of the pertinent
    questlions in this thread that you conveniently overlooked. Reminds me of >>> someone else.
    --

    Freedom Isn't Free!

    ===


    What part of what I said is bullshit, or are you referring to Trump's bullshit about how the election was stolen from him? Eleven months after the election he is still spouting that crap to his true believers despite all the evidence to the contrary.


    Maybe Hillary has some ideas on the subject.

    There are still some democrats who think Gore won

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