Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” The
account of Meadows’s comment characterizing Trump’s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.

I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

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"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
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Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account

of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for
having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you
are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest
in playing around with that long leged lady?


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On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The

account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit
for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you
are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest
in playing around with that long leged lady?

===

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank you.
I'm on it every day working various projects.

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On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The

account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit
for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you
are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest
in playing around with that long leged lady?

===

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank

you. I'm on it every day working various projects.

Holy Hyperbole Batman.
Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by the
police.

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gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:

r >> > Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The
account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit
for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that long leged
lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is
just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.
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On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that long leged lady? >> >>

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank

you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be
brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

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On 5/27/22 11:51 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that long leged lady? >> >>

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank

you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

Yada yada. You are blowing Jan 6 way out of proportion. It's 10 times more
crutial that someone competant is put in charge of our country now. Trump
is history and I thank him for his service. There is nothing to be thankful
about what's going on in Washington now. N Korea, China, Iran, China and
Russia are kicking up a storm and it won't stop until we have a strong
front man for our country. Things could get mighty ugly in the meantime.
Muddleing along is quite risky in this changing world.
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Lets go Brandon..

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that
long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is

just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

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On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL

is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's
articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings
of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the
Department of Justice.
- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/


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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the

LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he

be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of
the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited, stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

===

Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in my
lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true
believers.

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice
president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people
familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are
bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around
with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL

is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Impeachment is simply a partisan political process.
The Democrats have held the DoJ for over a year and they were willing
to throw the kitchen sink at Trump but I haven't seen any indictments
It sounds like more political hyperbole.

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice
president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people
familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are
bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around
with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the

LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he

be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >> >
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

===

Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in my

lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true believers.

You have never heard me say Trump is the greatest and I agree he is
course and crude but the biggest danger to the republic I have seen
since JFK is Biden. We are looking at a very real threat of nuclear
war right now and Biden is just throwing fuel on the fire with his
rhetoric.

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waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM
UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> > Former White House
Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald
Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after
rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike
Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s
reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at
least one witness, according to people familiar with the
investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him
credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's
criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this
drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you
lost interest >> in playing around with that long leged lady? >>

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating

more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually
captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a >>>>> gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on
it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I
remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

==
There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump
was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to
that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of
this country's democracy that he be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

Like what? And where is the Hillary anger for publishing lies about a
sitting POTUS?

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Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 >>>>>> PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> > Former White House >>>>>> Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald >>>>>> Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence
after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting >>>>>> ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing >>>>>> Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee >>>>>> by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the
investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give >>>>>> him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to
Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating >>>>>> all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to >>>>>> do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others
are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had
actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly
they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank
you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole
Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump >>>> was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up
to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future
of this country's democracy that he be brought to account for his
criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that
was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone. >>> What "criminal actions"?

He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the
constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers?
(18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating
the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's articles of impeachment
speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for
the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't
any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's
the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or
convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed
justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14
criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.
- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts
with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his
efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded
that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal
proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for
multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

Then where is Senator Clinton’s indictment? Talk about seditious behavior against a sitting President! Most of those indictments are for lying to the FBI. Seems as if they can always bring up that charge. If I was anybody involved in the affair and was asked questions by the FBI, I would take the
5th on every question they asked. How many people have they only gotten on lying to the FBI? And why should that be a crime anymore than telling the
cop you were doing 60 in a 65 zone when he pulls you over for speeding?

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On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:48:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 5:18 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account

of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for
having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the

LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I >>>>>> thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that >>>>>> profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he

be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton >>>> and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many >>>> brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to >>>> plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack >>>> the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day >>>> life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of
the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >>>
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

===

Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in

my lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true
believers.

Understand however he has yet to be indited for anything to do with Jan
6th and that's all the Trump haters want to talk about. I think I
understand that it's all about pounding the nails in his coffin should
he even consider another run for the presidency. I also think I
understand that like many on the right who despise Hillary Clinton,
those on the left really don't want him to be charged and stand trial.
I think it's one thing the right and left secretly are in agreement
because it sets a precedent for all future occupants of the Oval Office.

We've shifted in the past few years to a super biased media and print
with journalists and "reporters" spreading a lot of misinformation, all
to cloud the facts and influence votes. It's really sick.
--

===

I think there are a number of possible reasons why Trump as not (yet) been indicted, none of which has anything to do with Trump's probable guilt.. For one, the DOJ has to bring a serious and absolutely air tight case with all the i's dotted and t's
crossed. To do otherwise would just bring more claims of political persecution. Of course that will happen anyway, but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable. Another reason may be concerns about political implications and the
possibility of civil unrest. Unfortunately that seems like a very real concern given the unhinged loyalty of Trump's fan base. Yet another possibility is a desire to hold off prosecution until closer to the next presidential election. Last but not
least, there may be a concern that the country is already badly divided, and that a prosecution would greatly exacerbate that situation.

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"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:48:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:> On 5/27/2022 5:18 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: > >> On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), > >>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan
Ohlphart wrote: > >>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r > >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@
hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> > Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol
on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike
Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you
lost interest >> in playing around with that > >>>> long > >>>>> leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him
up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Maybe
drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the > >>>>>> preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I > >>>>>> thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that > >>>>>> profile. > >>>>> > >>>>> === > >>>>> > >>>>>
There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be
brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone. > >>>> What "criminal actions"? > >>>> He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the
Bushes (aided by Clinton > >>>> and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many > >>>> brown people, mostly civilians.. > >>>> > >>>> The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to > >>>> plant false narratives
and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump > >>>> government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up. > >>>> The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes" > >>>> were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying
to attack > >>>> the sitting POTUS. > >>>> Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day > >>>> life. It just didn't make the news. > >>> > >>> === > >>> > >>> What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the
constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led
to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report. > >>> > >>> The Special Counsel investigation
uncovered extensive criminal activity: > >>> > >>> - The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14
criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice. > >>> - Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal
proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses. > >>> - A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely
be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice. > >>> > >>> https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ > >>> > >> Wayne, > >> > >> Why don't you give it
a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited, > >> stands trial an

"UNHINGED LOYALTY" " civil unrest" "sloppy and careless evidence"
See, there's the drama.
It's ALL about political implications and dirty politics Wayne.
You got sucked in. I hope the behavior of current Democratic
leadership doesn't set the standard for future Washington
politics. If it does, we are doomed as a country. Were you proud
of the way Trump's impeachments were handled? Dirty politics?
Many called them witch hunts, and that's exactly what they were.

I didn't follow politics until recently because it really didn't
matter which party was in control. We would muddle through
whatever the current White House occupant was pushing. That's not
true any more. Democrats have gone berserk .
--
lets go Brandon...


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On Fri, 27 May 2022 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable.

Yet you folks gobbled up the "dossier" and all of the other lies that
were presented as fact by the Hillary cabal and planted in the media.
At what point was that not seditious?

If this guilt is o convincing and omnipresent it shouldn't be hard to
put together a clear and understandable case.
The fact is, laws around political speech are purposely made hard to
enforce to protect the 1st amendment.
Trump says dumb stuff but it is generally about insignificant stuff
like how many people were at a rally where you have Bozo Biden saying
dumb stuff to irrational people with nukes in the middle of a war that
we have been lucky enough to not be in ... yet.

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On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:10:43 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable.

Yet you folks gobbled up the "dossier" and all of the other lies that
were presented as fact by the Hillary cabal and planted in the media.
At what point was that not seditious?

If this guilt is o convincing and omnipresent it shouldn't be hard to
put together a clear and understandable case.
The fact is, laws around political speech are purposely made hard to
enforce to protect the 1st amendment.
Trump says dumb stuff but it is generally about insignificant stuff
like how many people were at a rally where you have Bozo Biden saying
dumb stuff to irrational people with nukes in the middle of a war that
we have been lucky enough to not be in ... yet.

===

I don't agree that Trump's "dumb stuff" was insignificant. If nothing else it gives insight into his thought process, the thought process of an impulsive, vindictive, thin skinned, egotistical person totally incapable of processing constructive
criticism or opposing points of view. With him, everything revolves around his self centered notions of loyalty. If you aren't for him then you must be against him. If presented with evidence which contradicts an erroneous belief, it is dismissed as
fake news. If a plan of action is contrary to law, the law is ignored or circumvented. Information known to be untrue is repeatedly presented as factual.

That is a very dangerous style of leadership.

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On Sat, 28 May 2022 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:10:43 AM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable.

Yet you folks gobbled up the "dossier" and all of the other lies that
were presented as fact by the Hillary cabal and planted in the media.
At what point was that not seditious?

If this guilt is o convincing and omnipresent it shouldn't be hard to
put together a clear and understandable case.
The fact is, laws around political speech are purposely made hard to
enforce to protect the 1st amendment.
Trump says dumb stuff but it is generally about insignificant stuff
like how many people were at a rally where you have Bozo Biden saying
dumb stuff to irrational people with nukes in the middle of a war that
we have been lucky enough to not be in ... yet.

===

I don't agree that Trump's "dumb stuff" was insignificant. If nothing else it gives insight into his thought process, the thought process of an impulsive, vindictive, thin skinned, egotistical person totally incapable of processing constructive

criticism or opposing points of view. With him, everything revolves around his self centered notions of loyalty. If you aren't for him then you must be against him. If presented with evidence which contradicts an erroneous belief, it is dismissed as
fake news. If a plan of action is contrary to law, the law is ignored or circumvented. Information known to be untrue is repeatedly presented as factual.

That is a very dangerous style of leadership.

How is that any different than FDR, LBJ, Nixon or the Bushes?
Trump is just more obvious about it. They all had enemies lists and
made life tough on you if you crossed them. It was just done secretly.

I am still left with the horrible performance of the dis functional
loser you voted for.
The economy is in the shitter, inflation is eating my nest egg.
Covid didn't really get any better.
Secretary Butt Plug is not doing anything about our supply chain.
Biden's response to disruptions in oil is to choke down our production capacity.
Most importantly, I am looking at the very real possibility of WWIII.
Biden has been totally incompetent with his dealings with China and
the Russians. The sanctions we imposed on Russia has them in a very
similar position as where we had Japan in the winter of 1940. We know
how that worked out.
Sanctions won't work on China at all. We need their goods more than
they need us to buy them.

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 20:24:04 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that >President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice
president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people

familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are

bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around

with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the

LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy >Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far >less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to >convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Impeachment is simply a partisan political process.
The Democrats have held the DoJ for over a year and they were willing
to throw the kitchen sink at Trump but I haven't seen any indictments
It sounds like more political hyperbole.

Sure, whatever you say you commie piece of shit. Fuck you.

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On Sat, 28 May 2022 04:24:42 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 >>>>>>> PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com"
<wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> > Former White House >>>>>>> Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald >>>>>>> Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence >>>>>>> after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting >>>>>>> ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing >>>>>>> Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee >>>>>>> by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the
investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give >>>>>>> him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to
Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating >>>>>>> all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to >>>>>>> do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others >>>>> are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had
actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly
they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank
you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole
Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump >>>>> was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up >>>>> to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future >>>>> of this country's democracy that he be brought to account for his
criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that
was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone. >>>> What "criminal actions"?

He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack >>>> the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day >>>> life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the
constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers?
(18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating
the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's articles of impeachment
speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for
the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't
any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's >>> the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >>>
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or
convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed
justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14
criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.
- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts >>> with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his >>> efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded >>> that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal >>> proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for
multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

Then where is Senator Clinton�s indictment? Talk about seditious behavior >against a sitting President! Most of those indictments are for lying to the >FBI. Seems as if they can always bring up that charge. If I was anybody >involved in the affair and was asked questions by the FBI, I would take the >5th on every question they asked. How many people have they only gotten on >lying to the FBI? And why should that be a crime anymore than telling the >cop you were doing 60 in a 65 zone when he pulls you over for speeding?

So, you still haven't removed your head from your ass, apparently. You
must like it up there.

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gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Fri, 27 May 2022 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable. Yet you folks gobbled up the "dossier" and all of the other lies thatwere

presented as fact by the Hillary cabal and planted in the media.At what point was that not seditious? If this guilt is o convincing and omnipresent it shouldn't be hard toput together a clear and understandable case. The fact is, laws around political
speech are purposely made hard toenforce to protect the 1st amendment. Trump says dumb stuff but it is generally about insignificant stufflike how many people were at a rally where you have Bozo Biden sayingdumb stuff to irrational people with nukes in
the middle of a war thatwe have been lucky enough to not be in ... yet.

Actions speak louder than words. Maybe that's why Democrats cant
gain any traction.
--
lets go Brandon...


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On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that
long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is

just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

Oh, now the whole party's bad, eh?

Harry must see his spittin' image in you!

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On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The

account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit
for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you
are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest
in playing around with that long leged lady?

===

I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL is just fine thank

you. I'm on it every day working various projects.

You totally missed his point.

"Playing with drama" refers to your continuous display of your
Trump-hate.

Get it?

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >> >

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of
Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having
the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the LLL

is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he be

brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to
plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack
the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day
life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings
of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity:

- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Hey Wayne, who was running the investigation?

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:48:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 5:18 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >> >>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account

of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for
having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around with

that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And

the LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that

he be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to >> >>>> plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack >> >>>> the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day >> >>>> life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of
the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >> >>>
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

===

Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in

my lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true
believers.

Understand however he has yet to be indited for anything to do with Jan
6th and that's all the Trump haters want to talk about. I think I
understand that it's all about pounding the nails in his coffin should
he even consider another run for the presidency. I also think I
understand that like many on the right who despise Hillary Clinton,
those on the left really don't want him to be charged and stand trial.
I think it's one thing the right and left secretly are in agreement
because it sets a precedent for all future occupants of the Oval Office.

We've shifted in the past few years to a super biased media and print
with journalists and "reporters" spreading a lot of misinformation, all
to cloud the facts and influence votes. It's really sick.
--

===

I think there are a number of possible reasons why Trump as not (yet) been indicted, none of which has anything to do with Trump's probable guilt.. For one, the DOJ has to bring a serious and absolutely air tight case with all the i's dotted and t's

crossed. To do otherwise would just bring more claims of political persecution. Of course that will happen anyway, but to bring sloppy and careless evidence would be inexcusable. Another reason may be concerns about political implications and the
possibility of civil unrest. Unfortunately that seems like a very real concern given the unhinged loyalty of Trump's fan base. Yet another possibility is a desire to hold off prosecution until closer to the next presidential election. Last but not
least, there may be a concern that the country is already badly divided, and that a prosecution would greatly exacerbate that situation.

So Biden's DOJ is ineffectual? You blather all these condemnations as
though they are cast in stone. Can Biden's DOJ not see as well as you?
Perhaps you should start sending your posts to them.

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 20:28:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>> >>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that
President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice

president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people

familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are

bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around

with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And the

LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy >Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I
thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

===

There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that he

be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for >far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton
and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many
brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to >>> >> plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack >>> >> the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day >>> >> life. It just didn't make the news.

===

What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code � 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code � 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump's

articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to >convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >>> >
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited,
stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

===

Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in

my lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted >followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true believers.

You have never heard me say Trump is the greatest and I agree he is
course and crude but the biggest danger to the republic I have seen
since JFK is Biden. We are looking at a very real threat of nuclear
war right now and Biden is just throwing fuel on the fire with his
rhetoric.

He's not heard anyone here say that or imply that. That's what makes
his ranting so ridiculous.

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On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:27:33 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 20:28:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/27/2022 3:47 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:38:41 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2022 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote: >>>> >>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r

On Thu, 26 May 2022 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT),"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >> Wrote in message:r >>

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that

President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice

president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people

familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality. >> >> I'm beginning to think you are creating all this drama because you >> are

bored and have nothing better to do. Have you lost interest >> in playing around

with that

long

leged lady? >> >>===>>I have no need to create any drama since others are creating more than enough. Imagine if some of those bozos had actually captured Pence on January 6 and strung him up. Supposedly they had a gallows already for him. And

the LLL is just fine thank you. I'm on it every day working various projects.Holy

Hyperbole Batman. Need I remind you the only person killed on Jan 6 was shot by thepolice.

Maybe drama ts the wrong word. How would you describe the
preoccupation with Jan 6 and all negative comments about Trump. I >>>> >>>> thought hatefullness might cover it but someone bristled at that
profile.

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There were already plenty of indications prior to January 6 that Trump was unfit for public office but his actions and statements leading up to that event proved it beyond all doubt. It is crucial to the future of this country's democracy that

he be brought to account for his criminal actions. Nixon was forced to resign for

far less, but that was when the Republican party still had some moral fiber and a backbone.

What "criminal actions"?
He didn't lie us into a war like LBJ or the Bushes (aided by Clinton >>>> >> and Obama) that cost thousands of American lives and 10-20x as many >>>> >> brown people, mostly civilians..

The Sussman trial is bringing out the actions of the other Clinton to >>>> >> plant false narratives and lies attempting to overthrow the Trump
government. Of course folks like you and Harry gobbled it up.
The Russian collusion and alleged "Kompromat" like the "Pee Tapes"
were just in the imagination of democrat apparatchiks trying to attack >>>> >> the sitting POTUS.
Trump is course and crude but so was LBJ and Nixon in their day to day >>>> >> life. It just didn't make the news.

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What criminal actions? How about "conspiracy to overthrow the constitution" also known as "Seditious Conspiracy" just for openers? (18 U.S. Code § 2384) And then there's 18 U.S. Code § 2385, advocating the overthrow of government. Both of Trump'

s articles of impeachment speak to criminal actions, and would have led to >>convictions if not for the feckless actions of Republicans in the senate. There really wasn't any doubt about guilt since both were well documented. And then there's the findings of the Mueller Report.

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity: >>>> >
- The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the

Department of Justice.

- Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
- A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of

justice.

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

Wayne,

Why don't you give it a rest and get back to us when Trump is indited, >>>> stands trial and is found guilty. Until then, all you are doing is
reciting the daily MSNBC storylines.

Peace.

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Peace to you also, along with happiness and good health.

Believe it or not, I never pay any attention to MSNBC at all. To the best of my ability I only quote reliable, unbiased news sources (if such a thing exists). I sincerely believe that Trump was, and still is, the greatest threat to our democracy in

my lifetime. I'm aware that the message does not play well with his devoted >>followers but I think it's important to counteract the steady stream of "Trump is the greatest of all time" nonsense that emanates from Fox news and his loyal band of true believers.

You have never heard me say Trump is the greatest and I agree he is
course and crude but the biggest danger to the republic I have seen
since JFK is Biden. We are looking at a very real threat of nuclear
war right now and Biden is just throwing fuel on the fire with his >>rhetoric.

He's not heard anyone here say that or imply that. That's what makes
his ranting so ridiculous.

Wayne pointing out that they will time this around the presidential
election just shows what a political witch hunt this really is.

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Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows remarked to others that President Donald Trump indicated his support for hanging Vice President Mike Pence after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting ?Hang Mike Pence!? The account

of Meadows?s comment characterizing Trump?s reaction to his vice president was provided to the committee by at least one witness, according to people familiar with the investigation.I'm not Mike Pence's biggest fan but you have to give him credit for
having the strength of character to stand up to Trump's criminality.

Not when you put it that way.
Trump says a lot of contravercial things that should not be taken
literally. Do you really think Trump would have Pence killed?

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