• Fearing Poisoning, Vladimir Putin Replaces 1,000 of His Personal Staff

    From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 08:24:01 2022
    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 18 12:22:11 2022
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847

    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mr. Luddite on Fri Mar 18 10:23:05 2022
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium doesn'
    t seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 17:43:37 2022
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:22:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847

    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Too bad Trump couldn't have been more help!

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 18 23:02:22 2022
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium doesn'
    t seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 18 22:27:01 2022
    waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?

    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    That's a lame comparison, Wayne.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 19 08:16:36 2022
    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.


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  • From True North@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sat Mar 19 05:17:21 2022
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 00:01:29 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium doesn'
    t seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.
    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.


    Hate to appease and enable Russion aggression but there may be no alternative. Scary, at some point they may decide they want a chunk of Arctic Canada or maybe feel they were swindled out of Alaska.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to Mr Robot on Sat Mar 19 08:22:12 2022
    On 3/18/2022 8:43 PM, Mr Robot wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:22:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847

    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.


    Too bad Trump couldn't have been more help!


    True. He'd not have to try hard to do a better job than the
    empty suit, 50 year career politician who is supposedly
    serving as our current POTUS. He's corrupt *and* totally
    incompetent. How the hell do you justify letting Russia
    and China negotiate with Iran *for* the US?

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  • From True North@21:1/5 to Floridian on Sat Mar 19 07:09:10 2022
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 10:26:48 UTC-3, Floridian wrote:
    IOn 3/19/22 8:17 AM, True North wrote:
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 00:01:29 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >> >> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing >> >> but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.
    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.


    Hate to appease and enable Russion aggression but there may be no alternative.
    Scary, at some point they may decide they want a chunk of Arctic Canada or maybe feel they were swindled out of Alaska.
    I'm sure that blowing up the Isthmus of N.S. and occupying the island is already on Vlad's to-do list. Why don't we give it to them in exchange for stopping the insane aggression in Ukraine and making reparations of a trillion loonies?
    --
    LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!!!!


    I'm sure the word you're desperately searching for is PENINSULA.
    Just who is "we"?
    Better to give the Russians useless Florida swampland. Nothing there but alligators and southern redneck hill billy's.

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  • From Floridian@21:1/5 to True North on Sat Mar 19 13:26:44 2022
    IOn 3/19/22 8:17 AM, True North wrote:
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 00:01:29 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.
    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.


    Hate to appease and enable Russion aggression but there may be no alternative. >Scary, at some point they may decide they want a chunk of Arctic Canada or maybe feel they were swindled out of Alaska.

    I'm sure that blowing up the Isthmus of N.S. and occupying the island is
    already on Vlad's to-do list. Why don't we give it to them in exchange for
    stopping the insane aggression in Ukraine and making reparations of a
    trillion loonies?
    --
    LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Floridian@21:1/5 to True North on Sat Mar 19 14:49:34 2022
    On 3/19/22 10:09 AM, True North wrote:
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 10:26:48 UTC-3, Floridian wrote:
    IOn 3/19/22 8:17 AM, True North wrote:
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 00:01:29 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >> >> >> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing >> >> >> but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.
    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.


    Hate to appease and enable Russion aggression but there may be no alternative.
    Scary, at some point they may decide they want a chunk of Arctic Canada or maybe feel they were swindled out of Alaska.
    I'm sure that blowing up the Isthmus of N.S. and occupying the island is
    already on Vlad's to-do list. Why don't we give it to them in exchange for >> stopping the insane aggression in Ukraine and making reparations of a
    trillion loonies?
    --
    LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!!!!


    I'm sure the word you're desperately searching for is PENINSULA.
    Just who is "we"?
    Better to give the Russians useless Florida swampland. Nothing there but alligators and southern redneck hill billy's.

    NOPE! Isthmus works just fine. Hillbillys? Have you ever been to Florida?
    --
    LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!!!!

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 19 12:45:33 2022
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the
    NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would
    tolerate)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sat Mar 19 09:53:10 2022
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >>> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were >Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would tolerate)

    ===

    One part of the comparison is accurate. Hitler started out by annexing territory that he felt rightly belonged to Germany.

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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sat Mar 19 14:26:14 2022
    On 3/19/2022 12:45 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >>>> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would
    tolerate)

    The Soviets and Nazis didn't have social media.

    Was watching an interview with a Russian activist (living in Russia)
    who said Instagram and Facebook can still be accessed with a
    "work-a-round" that he didn't want to describe. He said
    Russians are becoming aware of what is really going on in Ukraine
    and aren't buying the "special military ops" described by Putin.

    He also added further evidence that the roughly 10,000 people who
    attended Putin's rally were government employees ordered to attend.
    Some were paid to attend according to the activist.


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  • From Mr. Luddite@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 19 14:38:47 2022
    On 3/19/2022 12:53 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >>>>> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing >>>>> but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are
    skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would
    tolerate)

    ===

    One part of the comparison is accurate. Hitler started out by annexing territory that he felt rightly belonged to Germany.

    So did Stalin at the beginning of WWII. He annexed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania in 1940. Germany invaded and claimed them until they were
    overtaken again by the Russians. When Germany invaded and claimed them
    the citizenship of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania mostly welcomed them
    as they preferred German rule over Salin's rule.



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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 19 17:26:15 2022
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:53:10 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <not...@noland.com>
    wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >> >>> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing
    but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are
    skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would
    tolerate)

    ===

    One part of the comparison is accurate. Hitler started out by annexing territory that he felt rightly belonged to Germany.

    We annexed a whole continent that we thought was our manifest destiny
    and far more recently, in this century, we invaded two countries based
    on a lie. We had no problem with indiscriminate bombing. I guess we
    were just lucky that the Russians gave us a pass. Imagine how tough
    Iraq and the Afghans would be if the Russians were giving them modern
    weapons systems and logistic support.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to princecraft49@gmail.com on Sat Mar 19 17:52:31 2022
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 07:09:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 10:26:48 UTC-3, Floridian wrote:
    IOn 3/19/22 8:17 AM, True North wrote:
    On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 00:01:29 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >> >> >> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing >> >> >> but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.
    Everyone needs to put their dicks back in their pants and negotiate an
    end to this ... just like Cuba in 62.
    Putin already said what he wanted. Why not that?

    If Donbass was really independent, what the people there want, how
    does that affect the US or NATO?
    Do we care if Ukraine joins NATO? (maybe just say "x" years)
    Does anyone think Putin will give back Crimea, no matter how this
    comes out?
    Obama said it was OK when he took it.

    Biden can spin this however he likes but just like Krushchev, Putin is
    not going to walk away empty handed.

    We did pull our missiles out of Turkey and that was the root of the
    Cuban debacle.


    Hate to appease and enable Russion aggression but there may be no alternative.
    Scary, at some point they may decide they want a chunk of Arctic Canada or maybe feel they were swindled out of Alaska.
    I'm sure that blowing up the Isthmus of N.S. and occupying the island is
    already on Vlad's to-do list. Why don't we give it to them in exchange for >> stopping the insane aggression in Ukraine and making reparations of a
    trillion loonies?
    --
    LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!!!!


    I'm sure the word you're desperately searching for is PENINSULA.
    Just who is "we"?
    Better to give the Russians useless Florida swampland. Nothing there but alligators and southern redneck hill billy's.

    Punctuate much, dummy?

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 19 17:55:14 2022
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:26:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/19/2022 12:45 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:16:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/18/2022 1:23 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
    On 3/18/2022 11:24 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:

    Don't know if this is a reliable source or not but it's an interesting story and sounds plausible. He clearly miscalculated the will and capability of the Ukrainian people not to mention world reaction.

    https://www.insideedition.com/fearing-poisoning-vladimir-putin-replaces-1000-of-his-personal-staff-73847
    Putin certainly miscalculated if he thought he was going to weaken the >>>>> NATO alliance. The result of his actions in Ukraine has been nothing >>>>> but to strengthen it.

    Was just reading that Putin was doing a "rally" in a soccer stadium
    in Moscow to demonstrate support of the Russian people for his
    "special military action" in Ukraine. The coverage was suddenly
    interrupted by a "technical problem with the server".

    I wonder what that problem was caused by. Cyber warfare?


    ===

    It's worrisome to think that a person with as much power at their fingertips as Putin does, may becoming delusional. He needs some sort of face saving strategy to ease himself out of this mess he's created. Organizing a rally in a soccer stadium
    doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. He'd be better off to declare mission accomplished and organize a victory rally for his returning troops.

    The US media are reporting that the attendees at Putin's "rally" were
    Russian government employees who were "ordered" to attend the rally.

    That is one reason why I reject the "Hitler" analogy. The Russians are
    skeptical about this war and they are protesting as much as the
    government will let them. (more than the Soviets or the Nazis would
    tolerate)

    The Soviets and Nazis didn't have social media.

    Was watching an interview with a Russian activist (living in Russia)
    who said Instagram and Facebook can still be accessed with a
    "work-a-round" that he didn't want to describe. He said
    Russians are becoming aware of what is really going on in Ukraine
    and aren't buying the "special military ops" described by Putin.

    He also added further evidence that the roughly 10,000 people who
    attended Putin's rally were government employees ordered to attend.
    Some were paid to attend according to the activist.

    At one point the camera focused on a young guy who looked like a
    college student. And he looked very, very disgusted!

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