There are some subjects that seem to be off subject but they are things that cyclists should know because without this information, they cannot make important informed decisions.days and tired for another 6.
This is part of why I informed everyone here that they should not be taking the vaccines for covid-19. 1. because the illness itself was NOT dangerous and 2. Because the vaccines were.
Remember that millions of people died and NOT because of an illness that you probably wouldn't even notice if you were under 50 but that you probably would hardly notice if you were OVER 50. I am nearly 80 and had it twice and I simply felt bad for 4
The fact that the vaccines were dangerous became apparent almost immediately with people who took the jab dying all over the place. While you were being told that it was covid. SARS-Cov-2 by its very name tells you that it has vaste similarities toSARS-Cov-1 which causes the common cold. So people were already forearmed against most of the effects of SARS-Cov-2.
While I was warning you ahead of time because if all of the dying people that I knew could not have been from the disease which was modified ONLY to make it intensely contageous and this is because there is a clear stretch of mRNA in the that was addedto the original bat virus which made the bat virus far more contagious. Since this stretch of mRNA was not in the original virus it was clearly added by recently developed genomic tools.
Your life has been put at grave risk because phamaceutical companies were seeking a cheap way to develop vaccines. And the majority stock holders in many of these companies is Bill Gates of Microsft infamy. That asshole just put a video out pluggingmRNA vaccines as if they were God's gift to man. He actually said that with these GMO's we could cure manking of anything including death! He is NOT a scientist and he has NEVER worked in medical field and says this so easily.
In fact he is one of those distorted individuals that wants to be seen as the savior of mankind while getting 100 times richer of course. Being a billionaire isn't enough for him. He has to be a multi-trillionaire. In fact, mRNA is NOT a vaccibe at allbut a Genetic Modification Organism (GMO) which is criminal to deal with withgout specific licenses which most of the pharmaceutical companies did not have. This stuff is SO dangerous that the US bombed Iraq on the very suspicion that they were making "
Unlike you've been told, the RNA is directly transferable to DNA and where this happens the Spike Protein is generated. This may happen in any organ in your body so it can show up as any one of hundreds of different illnesses. Unfoirtunately the bodysees this foreign DNA as "normal" and uses IGg4 proteins to ignore the DNA and its poisonous messages.
This is NOT about bicycles. Or is it. Because many people can no longer ride because these got the covid-29 GMO injected into their bloodstream. Dementia was rare. It is now some 100 times more common than it was and two people that showed no signs ofit died from dementiqa shortly after having the jab.
There is nothing you an do about it now if you wee "vaccinated" but you can take your revenge by putting these people out of business.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:days and tired for another 6.
There are some subjects that seem to be off subject but they are things that cyclists should know because without this information, they cannot make important informed decisions.
This is part of why I informed everyone here that they should not be taking the vaccines for covid-19. 1. because the illness itself was NOT dangerous and 2. Because the vaccines were.
Remember that millions of people died and NOT because of an illness that you probably wouldn't even notice if you were under 50 but that you probably would hardly notice if you were OVER 50. I am nearly 80 and had it twice and I simply felt bad for 4
SARS-Cov-1 which causes the common cold. So people were already forearmed against most of the effects of SARS-Cov-2.The fact that the vaccines were dangerous became apparent almost immediately with people who took the jab dying all over the place. While you were being told that it was covid. SARS-Cov-2 by its very name tells you that it has vaste similarities to
added to the original bat virus which made the bat virus far more contagious. Since this stretch of mRNA was not in the original virus it was clearly added by recently developed genomic tools.While I was warning you ahead of time because if all of the dying people that I knew could not have been from the disease which was modified ONLY to make it intensely contageous and this is because there is a clear stretch of mRNA in the that was
mRNA vaccines as if they were God's gift to man. He actually said that with these GMO's we could cure manking of anything including death! He is NOT a scientist and he has NEVER worked in medical field and says this so easily.Your life has been put at grave risk because phamaceutical companies were seeking a cheap way to develop vaccines. And the majority stock holders in many of these companies is Bill Gates of Microsft infamy. That asshole just put a video out plugging
all but a Genetic Modification Organism (GMO) which is criminal to deal with withgout specific licenses which most of the pharmaceutical companies did not have. This stuff is SO dangerous that the US bombed Iraq on the very suspicion that they wereIn fact he is one of those distorted individuals that wants to be seen as the savior of mankind while getting 100 times richer of course. Being a billionaire isn't enough for him. He has to be a multi-trillionaire. In fact, mRNA is NOT a vaccibe at
sees this foreign DNA as "normal" and uses IGg4 proteins to ignore the DNA and its poisonous messages.Unlike you've been told, the RNA is directly transferable to DNA and where this happens the Spike Protein is generated. This may happen in any organ in your body so it can show up as any one of hundreds of different illnesses. Unfoirtunately the body
of it died from dementiqa shortly after having the jab.This is NOT about bicycles. Or is it. Because many people can no longer ride because these got the covid-29 GMO injected into their bloodstream. Dementia was rare. It is now some 100 times more common than it was and two people that showed no signs
There is nothing you an do about it now if you wee "vaccinated" but you can take your revenge by putting these people out of business.
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt
other people, what do you care if people drink the
government Kool Aid and take the government jab?
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the
government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is there some reason you're talking about things you know not the slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what theydid to you with the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it even occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got vaccinated and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in adeadly location. But I doubt it and it is likely that you will end up with turbo cancers that will be untreatable before ypu discover them. I spent my life working in the medical field and you spent your life teaching Marxist to student. So keep your
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It was removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe that the government is always correct.
On 5/8/2024 6:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the
government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is
there some reason you're talking about things you know not the
slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what they did to you
with the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it
even occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and
understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from
the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got
vaccinated and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in a deadly
location. But I doubt it and it is likely that you will end up with
turbo cancers that will be untreatable before ypu discover them. I
spent my life working in the medical field and you spent your life
teaching Marxist to student. So keep your trap shut. You have
constipation of the mouth. We didn't need you anyway.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It
was removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was
lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe
that the government is always correct.
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read
the writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
A couple, both MDs report: https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the
government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that grocers are trying to kill us.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come
into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't
cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many
weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover,
and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your
own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy
who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be
hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like
a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible. >In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for
babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come
into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't
cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many
weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover,
and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your
own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy
who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be
hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
+1
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come
into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't
cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many
weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover,
and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your
own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy
who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be
hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
+1
Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like
a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have
it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Wed, 08 May 2024 23:07:04 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like
a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
My wife lost her taste and smell senses after the second shot.
Thankfully, it came back in two months. I already had tinnitus and Neuropathy. I can't say if either of them got worse with the shots.
WE both got covid after the two shots.
On 5/8/2024 8:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read the writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
A couple, both MDs report: https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html
As I said to Tom, almost all medical interventions have _some_ level of
side effects.
The issue, as always, is the comparison of benefits vs. detriments. The articles you linked say the vaccines have saved millions of lives, and vaccine complications seem rare.
If you demand complete and perfect safety, it's time to empty out your medicine cabinet. Also your pantry, and probably your stock of cleaners, lubricants, etc. For God's sake, don't go anywhere near gasoline, or
alcohol, or even sunshine.
--
- Frank Krygowski
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
On 5/8/2024 6:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is
there some reason you're talking about things you know not the
slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what they did to you
with the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it
even occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and
understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from
the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got
vaccinated and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in a deadly
location. But I doubt it and it is likely that you will end up with
turbo cancers that will be untreatable before ypu discover them. I
spent my life working in the medical field and you spent your life
teaching Marxist to student. So keep your trap shut. You have
constipation of the mouth. We didn't need you anyway.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It
was removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was
lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe
that the government is always correct.
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read
the writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like
a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
A couple, both MDs report: https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html
--
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come
into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover,
and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your
own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy
who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >> > a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have
it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various
vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
On 5/9/2024 7:49 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the >>> benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or >>> actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't >>>> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger >>>> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea, >>> and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well >>> on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the >>> nose.
+1
Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
Which is also The Postman Always Rings Twice and Body Heat.
Sophocles never gets old.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
+1
Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
On 5/9/2024 7:49 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the >>>> benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or >>>> actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't >>>>> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger >>>>> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea, >>>> and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well >>>> on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the >>>> nose.
+1
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
Which is also The Postman Always Rings Twice and Body Heat.
Sophocles never gets old.
On Wed, 08 May 2024 23:07:04 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like
a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
My wife lost her taste and smell senses after the second shot.
Thankfully, it came back in two months. I already had tinnitus and Neuropathy. I can't say if either of them got worse with the shots.
WE both got covid after the two shots.
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>> a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have
it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various
vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the
vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> writes:
On Wed, 08 May 2024 23:07:04 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
My wife lost her taste and smell senses after the second shot.
Thankfully, it came back in two months. I already had tinnitus and
Neuropathy. I can't say if either of them got worse with the shots.
I can't say for sure that my tinnitus was caused by the shots, but the
timing is suspicious and there are many similar reports.
WE both got covid after the two shots.
Which is the essential problem. We were told the shots should be taken >because they would prevent infection. For those not particularly at
risk they were supposed to protect other people. None of that was true,
or even supported by any evidence.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
On 5/9/2024 7:49 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you >>>>>> never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the >>>>> benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>>>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or >>>>> actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to >>>>> force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical >>>>> judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before - >>>>>> that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't >>>>>> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I >>>>>> had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger >>>>>> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea, >>>>> and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people >>>>> thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the >>>>> Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against >>>>>> whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well >>>>> on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her >>>>> position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the >>>>> nose.
+1
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
Which is also The Postman Always Rings Twice and Body Heat.
Sophocles never gets old.
Not to mention Bicycle Thieves (Ladri di Biciclette). A great movie and
a chance to pick up a few words of Italian.
On 5/8/2024 11:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for
babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
"_Potential_ or actual" detriments is an excessively broad grouping; and
I don't believe it's been shown that they have "clearly" outweighed the >benefits. Data, please?
On 5/9/2024 10:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Even the vaccine companies said that the side effects were one in 800.
Citation, please?
- Frank Krygowski
On 5/9/2024 10:50 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>>> a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have >>>> it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various >>>> vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the
vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
Yep. One person (you) said you got tinnitus from the vaccine. Another
person (me) said I did not. I backed my anecdote up with another three.
Gosh, if we keep this up long enough, we might have actual data! ;-)
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >> > a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have
it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various
vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
--
On 5/8/2024 11:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical judgement, other considerations took precedence.
"_Potential_ or actual" detriments is an excessively broad grouping; and
I don't believe it's been shown that they have "clearly" outweighed the benefits. Data, please?
In any case, current evaluations of strategy are being made with the
huge advantage of hindsight. Cast your mind back to images of tent
structures in hospital parking lots, of patients lying in cots in
hallways, of temporary morgues, of health care workers sickened or
killed by the virus.
Pretending this was just the sniffles, as some right-wing Pollyannas are
now doing, is way beyond unrealistic. It was a worldwide emergency, and
the medical community was correct in trying hard to figure it out and
prevent disaster.
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea,
and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
nose.
+1
Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
On 5/8/2024 11:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for
babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
"_Potential_ or actual" detriments is an excessively broad grouping; and
I don't believe it's been shown that they have "clearly" outweighed the benefits. Data, please?
In any case, current evaluations of strategy are being made with the
huge advantage of hindsight. Cast your mind back to images of tent
structures in hospital parking lots, of patients lying in cots in
hallways, of temporary morgues, of health care workers sickened or
killed by the virus.
Pretending this was just the sniffles, as some right-wing Pollyannas are
now doing, is way beyond unrealistic. It was a worldwide emergency, and
the medical community was correct in trying hard to figure it out and
prevent disaster.
On Thu, 9 May 2024 12:43:48 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/9/2024 10:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Even the vaccine companies said that the side effects were one in 800.
Citation, please?
- Frank Krygowski
That's from a guy who never documents any of his brags
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
"_Potential_ or actual" detriments is an excessively broad grouping; and
I don't believe it's been shown that they have "clearly" outweighed the benefits. Data, please?
In any case, current evaluations of strategy are being made with the
huge advantage of hindsight. Cast your mind back to images of tent structures in hospital parking lots, of patients lying in cots in
hallways, of temporary morgues, of health care workers sickened or
killed by the virus.
Pretending this was just the sniffles, as some right-wing Pollyannas are now doing, is way beyond unrealistic. It was a worldwide emergency, and
the medical community was correct in trying hard to figure it out and prevent disaster.
Indeed was brutal few years if you worked in medical or social care, was
some lovely empty roads though which was one benefit at least!
Roger Merriman
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
-- - Frank Krygowski
ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >>>> grocers are trying to kill us.
Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the >>> benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for >>> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or >>> actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to
force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
judgement, other considerations took precedence.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >>>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't >>>> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >>>> cause the cancer?
She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger >>>> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >>>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >>>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
survival, complete with large photo.
Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea, >>> and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people
thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
Devil with the patients.
You believe that the government is always correct.
Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >>>> own deluded fiction.
However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >>>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >>>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well >>> on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the >>> nose.
+1
Where's the reference to bicycle tech?
Isn't everyone already sick enough of politics?
The only way to escape it is to watch old B&W movies?
Double indemnity??
Because it?s Tom?s hobby and others can?t resist as ?there is someone wrong on the internet!?
Roger Merriman
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> writes:
On Wed, 08 May 2024 23:07:04 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
My wife lost her taste and smell senses after the second shot.
Thankfully, it came back in two months. I already had tinnitus and Neuropathy. I can't say if either of them got worse with the shots.
I can't say for sure that my tinnitus was caused by the shots, but the
timing is suspicious and there are many similar reports.
WE both got covid after the two shots.
Which is the essential problem. We were told the shots should be taken because they would prevent infection. For those not particularly at
risk they were supposed to protect other people. None of that was true,
or even supported by any evidence.
Sample size of one?? https://www.healthline.com/health-news/is-the-covid-19-vaccine-linked-to-tinnitus-what-we-know
On 5/9/2024 9:50 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>> a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have >>> it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various >>> vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the
vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
Exactly.
After a long life of lead, cadmium, MEK, Trichlor, gallons
of cleanup lacquer thinner, catalyzed paint including
cyanoacrylics sprayed without a mask, asbestos, leaded
premium gasoline, driving habitually fast sans belt, Camel
straights and cigars, liquor, high risk behaviors
inappropriate to list here, and no mRNA shot here I am.
The downside is that most of my friends, lovers and
associates are dead.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
But 'broken down'?? Hardly. I'm fit and active and unlike
all my younger brothers I don't have a bald spot.
On Thu May 9 10:47:00 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 5/9/2024 9:50 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>>>> a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have >>>>> it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various >>>>> vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the >>>> vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
Exactly.
After a long life of lead, cadmium, MEK, Trichlor, gallons
of cleanup lacquer thinner, catalyzed paint including
cyanoacrylics sprayed without a mask, asbestos, leaded
premium gasoline, driving habitually fast sans belt, Camel
straights and cigars, liquor, high risk behaviors
inappropriate to list here, and no mRNA shot here I am.
The downside is that most of my friends, lovers and
associates are dead.
But you're still here to give others a hand when needed. And we appreciate that. After all that time you're still useful. Even if broken down and made fun of.
On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:31:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
But 'broken down'?? Hardly. I'm fit and active and unlike
all my younger brothers I don't have a bald spot.
My ancestors solved that problem long ago: ><https://www.google.com/search?q=kippah&tbm=isch>
I don't consider myself to be fit or active. However, I'm doing
better than most of my friends and relatives that are about my age
(76) or older. I started loosing my hair about 40 years ago, when I
switched from coffee to tea. There's probably no connection, but I
feel obligated to blame something.
On 5/9/2024 10:50 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed May 8 23:21:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 11:07 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
I developed tinnitus shortly after taking the mRNA shot. It is not like >>>> a dog whistle, but it does sort of suck. I now avoid music
whenever possible.
In hindsight, running with the herd was not a good idea.
Tinnitus is quite common. Of my six closest musician friends, two have >>> it. So does the ex-husband of one of them. He's an avid birder who,
sadly, can hear almost no birdsong.
I'm told tinnitus sucks. But I don't have it, despite the many various >>> vaccines I've gotten.
--
- Frank Krygowski
There you have it. Frank did not get tintinus from the vaccines so the
vaccines do not cause it. Frank did not get Myocarditis from his
injections so they do not cause Myocarditis. Frank's world is very
small and extremely simple.
It is remarkable what some can infer from a sample size of one. I try
not to mistake good fortune for good judgement.
Yep. One person (you) said you got tinnitus from the vaccine. Another
person (me) said I did not. I backed my anecdote up with another three.
Gosh, if we keep this up long enough, we might have actual data! ;-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:31:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
But 'broken down'?? Hardly. I'm fit and active and unlike
all my younger brothers I don't have a bald spot.
My ancestors solved that problem long ago: <https://www.google.com/search?q=kippah&tbm=isch>
I don't consider myself to be fit or active. However, I'm doing
better than most of my friends and relatives that are about my age
(76) or older. I started loosing my hair about 40 years ago, when I
switched from coffee to tea. There's probably no connection, but I
feel obligated to blame something.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
[The usual insults delete]. All it would have taken is to read any of the the medical journals not sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry to discover that the covid vaccine was killing people and that it is outlawed in most European countries butthat would prove you wrong and you couldn't have that.
So you will continue to say that AlO3 doesn't burn because it doesn't do that under normal circumstances.
On 5/9/2024 6:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:31:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
But 'broken down'?? Hardly. I'm fit and active and unlike
all my younger brothers I don't have a bald spot.
Males in my family don't go bald, but do go grey early. My father's hair
was completely grey by age 30. I chose not to inherit that gene. ;-)
My ancestors solved that problem long ago:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=kippah&tbm=isch>
So _that's_ what those are for!
I don't consider myself to be fit or active. However, I'm doing
better than most of my friends and relatives that are about my age
(76) or older.
Last week, a member of the extended family who's in his 40s wanted me to
peek into the robin's nest that had been built near the ceiling inside
his garage. He asked something like "How nimble are you?"
I hopped onto a stool, then onto the table of his table saw and peeked
at the robin's eggs. I said "I'm at least that nimble." I didn't add >"Probably more nimble than you."
I started loosing my hair about 40 years ago, when I
switched from coffee to tea. There's probably no connection, but I
feel obligated to blame something.
Nope. I've been drinking copious amounts of tea since 1966, and I've got
a thick head of hair.
Also, https://www.earth.com/news/drinking-tea-delays-biological-aging/
(BTW, I'm convinced that "loosing" vs. "losing" may be the most common >English misspelling. I've seen that done by brilliant PhD researchers.
So you're in good company.)
:-) I'm just sitting here smiling, and wondering if terrible spelling
is a side effect of Tom's COVID.
On 5/9/2024 4:22 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Since there were NO benefits other than a 30 day reduction in the CHANCE of getting covid. It did NOT stop infection - it only seemed to reduce the chance by perhaps 50%. And death or serious side effects occurred to one out of 800 ...
I'm still waiting for a citation of a decent study in a respected peer >reviewed journal that backs up your claims.
As you should understand, after years of experience, most of us believe
your imagined or "remembered" facts have zero value, or less.
_Less_ than zero? Yes, I've reached the point that if Tom Kunich claims >something, I automatically assume it's wrong. It just saves time.
Also, note that the paper was published on Dec 12, 2022. I couldn't
find the start and end dates for the data used in the study. The data >repository only shows "2 years ago", which is near the date of
publication and not the date of collection.
So, I have to make a--
guess that it took 1 to 2 years to collect and process the data. I'll
guess 2 years. That would be in late 2020, 9 months into the
pandemic, when we were just learning how to treat Covid. In other
words, it's ancient data.
On 5/8/2024 5:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 6:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is
there some reason you're talking about things you know not the
slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what they did to you with
the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it even
occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and
understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from
the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got vaccinated
and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in a deadly location. But I doubt
it and it is likely that you will end up with turbo cancers that will
be untreatable before ypu discover them. I spent my life working in
the medical field and you spent your life teaching Marxist to student.
So keep your trap shut. You have constipation of the mouth. We didn't
need you anyway.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It was
removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was lucky
to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe that the
government is always correct.
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read the
writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
A couple, both MDs report:
https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html >>
"They found that within 90 days after a shot, the rate of POTS-related >symptoms was about 33% higher than in the 3 months before; 2581 people
were diagnosed with POTS-related symptoms after vaccination, compared
with 1945 beforehand. However, the study found a bigger effect from
COVID-19 itself: The rate of POTS symptoms in about 12,000 unvaccinated >people after infection was 52% higher than beforehand. "
On 5/9/2024 12:48 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 12:43:48 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/9/2024 10:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Even the vaccine companies said that the side effects were one in 800.
Citation, please?
- Frank Krygowski
That's from a guy who never documents any of his brags
On May 1, somebody using your handle posted "I read and I also write.
I'm doing the final editing of my latest book right now."
I don't see any documentation of any of your books here.
On 5/10/2024 3:05 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2024 20:23:59 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/9/2024 12:48 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On May 1, somebody using your handle posted "I read and I also write.
I'm doing the final editing of my latest book right now."
I don't see any documentation of any of your books here.
<LOL> Posting on Usenet is pretty good documentation that I do both...
:-) That was funny!
On Thu May 9 20:44:22 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/9/2024 5:41 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Frank believes I should simply move to another state ...
Correct. Most of us have none of the problems you continually whine
about. You need to move out of that hellhole.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Tell me Frank, how does it feel to live in an all white neighborhoos and continually make racist comments and then tell ME where I should live? You are such a piece of garbage that you would overload sewage systems. You miserable piece of shit thinkthat complaining about the government acting in an illegal fashion is "whining". You had better hope that I don't show up at your front door and beat you insensable.
On Thu, 9 May 2024 20:42:07 -0400, Frank KrygowskiCjIQACABSABaBk4gR2VuZXIKMjAyNC0wMy0yOHIKMjAyNC0wNS0wOYoBBjNmZGE5ZMABAQ%3D%3D&selectedChartId=3fda9d&plantId=3249ef9d-dc03-45cc-8b64-95cc6ac72e7c&target=N+Gene&locationExpanded=true>
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/9/2024 4:22 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
Since there were NO benefits other than a 30 day reduction in the CHANCE of getting covid. It did NOT stop infection - it only seemed to reduce the chance by perhaps 50%. And death or serious side effects occurred to one out of 800 ...
I'm still waiting for a citation of a decent study in a respected peer >reviewed journal that backs up your claims.
As you should understand, after years of experience, most of us believe >your imagined or "remembered" facts have zero value, or less.
_Less_ than zero? Yes, I've reached the point that if Tom Kunich claims >something, I automatically assume it's wrong. It just saves time.
I've noticed the same problem. 99.99% of what Tom claims is wrong,
contrived or fabricated for the occasion. When I used to comment on
every one of his claims, at the end, I would provide a score. How
many claims and how many were correct. He didn't like that, so I
continued to keep score. I gave up when he started making so many
claims in a single posting, that it would take me all evening to
debunk all of them.
Since we're on the Covid-19 trail, I've been playing with the latest
Covid in the wastewater data. If this kind of stuff is of interest:
"WastewaterSCAN Dashboard"
Checks for various viruses in the local water. <https://data.wastewaterscan.org>
Here's my area (Santa Cruz County): <https://data.wastewaterscan.org/?selectedLocation=%7B%22level%22%3A%22plant%22%2C%22value%22%3A%223249ef9d-dc03-45cc-8b64-95cc6ac72e7c%22%2C%22label%22%3A%22Santa+Cruz+County%2C+CA%22%7D&charts=
Looks like the usual peaks in every bug during the Christmas gift and
virus passing season. Covid-19 in the waste water (sewage) is very
low at this time. More of the same: <https://publichealth.verily.com/?d=3m&v=SARS-CoV-2>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On 5/8/2024 5:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 6:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is
there some reason you're talking about things you know not the
slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what they did to you with
the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it even
occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and
understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from
the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got vaccinated
and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in a deadly location. But I doubt
it and it is likely that you will end up with turbo cancers that will
be untreatable before ypu discover them. I spent my life working in
the medical field and you spent your life teaching Marxist to student.
So keep your trap shut. You have constipation of the mouth. We didn't
need you anyway.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It was
removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was lucky
to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe that the
government is always correct.
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read the writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
A couple, both MDs report: https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html
"They found that within 90 days after a shot, the rate of POTS-related symptoms was about 33% higher than in the 3 months before; 2581 people
were diagnosed with POTS-related symptoms after vaccination, compared
with 1945 beforehand. However, the study found a bigger effect from
COVID-19 itself: The rate of POTS symptoms in about 12,000 unvaccinated people after infection was 52% higher than beforehand. "
1. The occasional "iuncoherence" is because my cat will get in between me and the screen and if I lose my position on the keuboard I cannot correct it since I have to see the screen in order to correct touch typing.
2. My father was a lifelong alcoholic and I do not drink to any extent.
That I was arrested for drunk driving means nothing since ONE glass of wine will put you over the limit in California (0.8).
My arrest was due entirely by the fact that I could not pass a drunk test and because of the damage to my balance I have permanent medical permission to ONLY be tested with blood level detectors and not physixcally tilting my head back where I lose wvisual horizon and fall which the police then denoted as drunk driving.
3. The ONLY time that I was given a drunk driving ticket was because a cop had stopped a person in the middle of a freewayt on-ramp. While sitting there waiting, I had a seizure, my legs locked down on the accelerator and I drove to the right ratherthan the left and endanger the cop. There was a concrete wall on the right and rather than hit the entire line of cars I dragged the right side of the car on the concrete wall. Tell me you piece of shit - does that sound like I was "drunk"? At that point
But like all people easing into dementia you. Anger and aggression among demntia and those becoming demented is common and you continue to show the signs of it. Don't worry, be happy. Dementia bis spiking among you vaccinated fools. And no, I will notgive you a reference.I prefer you to not believe it until treatment is impossible.
But since you were kind enough to tell us where you live you might push all the right buttons and I will show up and break every bone in your face which would be the end of your internet career.
On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:53:56 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>visual horizon and fall which the police then denoted as drunk driving.
wrote:
1. The occasional "iuncoherence" is because my cat will get in between me and the screen and if I lose my position on the keuboard I cannot correct it since I have to see the screen in order to correct touch typing.
Stop watching cat videos on your computer and your cat (or bird) will
be less of a problem.
Use a spelling checker. It can check your spelling as you type, or
you can check everything when you're done typing. I suggest after
you're done typing which should take care of the cat problem.
You're using newshosting.com as an NNTP client. They have a 12 year
old news reader program that does not include a spelling checker. <https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/>
"Using the Newshosting Newsreader" <https://support.newshosting.com/kb/article/98-using-the-newshosting-newsreader/>
You should be able to find a spelling checker for whatever program
you're using as a Usenet news reader.
2. My father was a lifelong alcoholic and I do not drink to any extent.
I don't believe you.
That I was arrested for drunk driving means nothing since ONE glass of wine will put you over the limit in California (0.8).
The limit in California is 0.08% <https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbook/california-driver-handbook/alcohol-and-drugs/>
I would be really interested in knowing how your cat could have caused
a decimal point placement error.
My arrest was due entirely by the fact that I could not pass a drunk test and because of the damage to my balance I have permanent medical permission to ONLY be tested with blood level detectors and not physixcally tilting my head back where I lose w
I don't believe that. I can check if such a thing exists, but I don'tthan the left and endanger the cop. There was a concrete wall on the right and rather than hit the entire line of cars I dragged the right side of the car on the concrete wall. Tell me you piece of shit - does that sound like I was "drunk"? At that point
want to. It's easier for me to simply assume that everything you
write and say are lies. I can wait for you prove your claims. Where
in the Calif Vehicle Code does it make you immune to a blood test?
While you're at it, explain to me why you are still driving with no
sense of balance, after having crashed 4 cars, but don't seem to have
any trouble riding a bicycle? I would think that bicycle riding
requires far more balance than driving an automobile. I would have
expected to read reports of bicycle riding accidents in RBT:
"Cycling with a balance disorder on an adaptive bike" <https://www.vanraam.com/en-gb/news/cycling-with-a-balance-disorder-on-an-adaptive-bike>
"Cycling on a regular bike is very difficult with a balance disorder."
3. The ONLY time that I was given a drunk driving ticket was because a cop had stopped a person in the middle of a freewayt on-ramp. While sitting there waiting, I had a seizure, my legs locked down on the accelerator and I drove to the right rather
Do you really expect me (or anyone else) to believe that story? Itgive you a reference.I prefer you to not believe it until treatment is impossible.
sounds like a practice ride from the online version of Grand Theft
Auto game:
<https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-online>
But like all people easing into dementia you. Anger and aggression among demntia and those becoming demented is common and you continue to show the signs of it. Don't worry, be happy. Dementia bis spiking among you vaccinated fools. And no, I will not
Projecting your problems onto someone else? Did you cat become tired
of you blaming it for your problems? Again, do you really expect me
(or anyone else) to believe that story?
But since you were kind enough to tell us where you live you might push all the right buttons and I will show up and break every bone in your face which would be the end of your internet career.
If what you say is true about your driving abilities, Frank is quite
safe. You'll never make it out of San Leandro, much less the 5,200 to Poland, Ohio and back again.
Threatening violence is a nice ending to whatever you pretend is (or
was) your internet career. We're down to only a few RBT readers. You
chased away most of those. If that's you're internet career, you've succeeded.
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Thu, 9 May 2024 19:41:54 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2024 5:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 6:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski? wrote:
On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
This is NOT about bicycles.
Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>> government jab?
Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. Is
there some reason you're talking about things you know not the
slightest thing about? Are you so afraid of what they did to you with
the GMO's that the only thing you can do is to deny that it even
occurred?
Andre had something that you sorely lack - the ability to read and
understand and he said many times here that I had been correct from
the start. You may have been one of the lucky ones that got vaccinated >>> and the GMO's didn't seat themselves in a deadly location. But I doubt >>> it and it is likely that you will end up with turbo cancers that will
be untreatable before ypu discover them. I spent my life working in
the medical field and you spent your life teaching Marxist to student. >>> So keep your trap shut. You have constipation of the mouth. We didn't
need you anyway.
My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately It was
removed and she was radiated and underwent chemotherapy. She was lucky >>> to have gotten only two shots. What about you? You believe that the
government is always correct.
Management and finance guys aren't disease experts but they can read the >> writing on the wall
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/05/08/AstraZeneca-vaccine-pulled/1271715193339/
Director of Vaccine Research at Mayo has direct experience:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592
A couple, both MDs report:
https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance
etc:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/health/covid-vaccines-side-effects.html >>
"They found that within 90 days after a shot, the rate of POTS-related >symptoms was about 33% higher than in the 3 months before; 2581 people
were diagnosed with POTS-related symptoms after vaccination, compared
with 1945 beforehand. However, the study found a bigger effect from >COVID-19 itself: The rate of POTS symptoms in about 12,000 unvaccinated >people after infection was 52% higher than beforehand. "
OK. That came from the science.org URL. Digging deeper, the source
seems to be:
"POTS association with COVID-19 vaccination and COVID-19 infection" <https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-022-00177-8> (Dec 12, 2022)
"...we examined the extent to which new diagnoses of POTS are
increased following COVID-19 vaccination in our health system, a large quaternary care system in Los Angeles." (Cedars-Sinai)
Quaternary care is the highest level of hospital care. These deal
with unusual and very specialized illnesses and are usually handled by
a specialist. It's a fair assumption that the patients in such a
hospital and in the survey have some kind of unusual malady that
requires such a high level of medical care. In other words, they have pre-existing conditions that did NOT include Covid-19.
"Of all patients who had at least one COVID-19 vaccination dose
documented (n = 289,662), we excluded those with SARS-CoV-2 infection
before and within 90 days after the first vaccination dose (n =
5,070)."
See Fig 4 at:
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-022-00177-8/figures/4>
I would assume that they also excluded anyone who caught Covid-19 in
the 90 days after the first vaccination. That means that if they
experienced one of the expected side effects, it would not be from an
active case of Covid-19. That reduced the population size from
289,000 to 5,000. Nicely done.
I'm going to stop here due to lack of time. What I see here is a
potentially large test population of people who are sick with
something that requires the attention of a specialist and who do *NOT*
have a recent case of Covid-19. I would be very suspicious of the
results and conclusions if everyone in the study is already seriously
ill from something other than Covid-19.
Also, note that the paper was published on Dec 12, 2022. I couldn't
find the start and end dates for the data used in the study. The data repository only shows "2 years ago", which is near the date of
publication and not the date of collection. So, I have to make a
guess that it took 1 to 2 years to collect and process the data. I'll
guess 2 years. That would be in late 2020, 9 months into the
pandemic, when we were just learning how to treat Covid. In other
words, it's ancient data.
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
Tracing back through the thread, only Tom's unspecified newsreader is
adding "RE: " instead of the required "Re: ". Everyone else is adding
either nothing if there is a preceding "Re: " or is adding an "Re: "
if there is a preceding "RE", which it recognizes are part of the subject.
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400,
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re: "s already.
Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re: "?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re:"s already.Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re:"?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
with <v1rpel$32ung$1@dont-email.me> Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
*SKIP* [ 5 lines 3 levels deep] # These headers are irrelevant.
On Sun, 12 May 2024 21:12:53 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400,
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Path:
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to
know about the covid vaccines
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re: "s already.
Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re: "?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
Yes. The typical newsreader recognizes:
Subject: Re: What you need to know..."
as a reply and does NOT reproduce the "Re: " in the next reply, thus preventing the long string of repetitive "Re: ". <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1849#section-5.4>
"Subject-content = [ "Re: " ] nonblank-text"
Previous RFC's made a mess of this:
"NOTE: A back reference is FOUR characters, the fourth being a blank. [RFC1036] was confused about this. Observe also that only ONE back
reference should be present."
Previous RFC's also specified that "re :" was acceptable, but said
nothing about "RE: " and the 4th character, a space.
Tracing back through the thread, only Tom's unspecified newsreader is
adding "RE: " instead of the required "Re: ". Everyone else is adding
either nothing if there is a preceding "Re: " or is adding an "Re: "
if there is a preceding "RE", which it recognizes are part of the
subject.
In other words, Tom's unspecified newsreader is broken and probably
causing the problem. I'm not going to waste my time offering
solutions to Tom. If you are using a proper newsreader, just edit the subject line to show exactly one "Re: " ahead of the actual subject.
Id agree has to be which ever newsreader hes using and some mistake in
the set up of said program.
Hes moved from google groups to another server, so unlikely to be server >related unless its triggered by someone reply?
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400,
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re:"s already.
Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re:"?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Mon, 13 May 2024 09:12:06 +0000, Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> wrote:
with <v1rpel$32ung$1@dont-email.me> Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
*SKIP* [ 5 lines 3 levels deep] # These headers are irrelevant.Given that my newsreader handles the re:s properly,
quoting the fifth line was necessary to illustrate the issue. So
hardly irrelevant. I left in the oreceding four lines to show that I
was quoting headers from the preceding post.
Not sure what provoked the "3 levels deep" remark. Seems just wrong
to me.
On Mon, 13 May 2024 22:40:19 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:
Id agree has to be which ever newsreader hes using and some mistake in >> the set up of said program.
Hes moved from google groups to another server, so unlikely to be server >> related unless its triggered by someone reply?
Yes, it's triggered by Tom's newsreader prepending an "RE: " which is interpreted as part of the Subject text.
When a user replies to Tom's messages (with a leading "RE: " in the
Subject line), the user's newsreader recognizes that as text and
prepends an "Re: ". When Tom replies again, his program prepends an
"RE: " and the process repeats. I checked about 50 messages and the
pattern is consistent. If you look at the threads where Tom was not involved, it the Subject records all look normal. However, if you
look at threads where Tom was involved, the alternating patterns of
"Re: RE: Re: RE: " appear.
I'm not sure exactly what is causing the problem. Tom hasn't bothered
to disclose what programs he's using to read and post news. His ISP
for Usenet news is newshosting.com which offers a 12 year old newsreader/browser:
<https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvBX5LmCIE>
which I suspect is the culprit. At one point, Tom was looking at
Forte Agent, which is what I use. I could install the program and try
using it, but since I suggested it as the culprit, Tom will not touch
it because it was someone elses idea.
On 5/13/2024 9:29 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sun May 12 21:12:53 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400,
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re:"s already.
Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re:"?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
Because people like you refuse to do your homework and hence feel the need to deny what you've done to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZuc_2y8xgM...
What a massive, massive non sequitur!
On Tue, 14 May 2024 11:18:12 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 5/13/2024 9:29 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sun May 12 21:12:53 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/12/2024 2:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2024 23:04:30 -0400,
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
I have nothing to add, there are more than enough "Re:"s already.
Does anyone know why Tom's posts accumulate long strings of "Re:"?
Not that it matters much. Just another weird Kunich quirk.
Because people like you refuse to do your homework and hence feel the need to deny what you've done to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZuc_2y8xgM...
What a massive, massive non sequitur!
It's a very common sales and advertising technique, especially on
YouTube. The basic formula is to start with a string of statements
and background facts with that we can agree. Maybe add some history, marginally related comments, and celebrity quotes. Of course, the
announcer is an "expert" on the topic which is demonstrated by short
video clips of the announcer practicing his trade.
After at least 80% of the monolog is over, the announcer delivers the payload, which vaguely associates the product, drug, miracle food,
investment scheme, exercise routine etc with string of agreeable
statements. The announcer than switches to testimonials, amazing
results and buyer endorsements.
The way it works is that we are biological accustomed to extracting
order out of chaos. When faced with a long string of agreeable facts,
we tend to deduce or assume that whatever follows must also be facts.
Even if only part of the pitch line happens to have some truth buried
in it, we tend to accept the whole package as truth, especially if
we're not paying attention.
There are many variations to how this works. This rant would be too
long if I start listing examples. Examples are easily identified on
YouTube videos and they all seem to follow a similar pattern.
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