I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat
actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.
So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? TIA

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On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I use Look Keo pedals and Look Keo cleats. If you're buying used Look or Look copies they are probably Delta type which have a larger cleat base for which you have to use Delta cleats. I believe that the present Shimano Road SpD's are copies of the Delta
design which fell off of the patent term. However, if you overlay the Shimano road SpD cleat on a Keo, they look to have the same length though they re wider.

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On 10/19/2023 10:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? >>> TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I use Look Keo pedals and Look Keo cleats. If you're buying used Look or Look copies they are probably Delta type which have a larger cleat base for which you have to use Delta cleats. I believe that the present Shimano Road SpD's are copies of the

Delta design which fell off of the patent term. However, if you overlay the Shimano road SpD cleat on a Keo, they look to have the same length though they re wider.

Shimano once sold France-built actual Look pedals rebadged. https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=DF177C1B-738B-4CB2-9DF5-60C300894BBF

There are no current Shimano pedals which are Look format,
not Delta, not Keo.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Not sure the LBS actually had genuine Look cleats, although I'm going to be paying attention next time, for sure. My pedals are the CX6, which appears to be Delta compatible, and which my (Amazon sourced) TrubliFit cleats supposedly are (coulda fooled
me). The cleat for my right shoe clips out fine. The cleat for my left pedal... I just visualize the show at the next stoplight. I even switched pedals and had the same problem.

JF

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:03:06 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 10:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works?
TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I use Look Keo pedals and Look Keo cleats. If you're buying used Look or Look copies they are probably Delta type which have a larger cleat base for which you have to use Delta cleats. I believe that the present Shimano Road SpD's are copies of the

Delta design which fell off of the patent term. However, if you overlay the Shimano road SpD cleat on a Keo, they look to have the same length though they re wider.

Shimano once sold France-built actual Look pedals rebadged. https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=DF177C1B-738B-4CB2-9DF5-60C300894BBF

There are no current Shimano pedals which are Look format,
not Delta, not Keo.
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I could have sworn I tried the new cleats in a Delta pedal and they fit. But I just tried them in bot Delta and Keo pedals and they wouldn't work

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:03:06 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 10:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works?
TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I use Look Keo pedals and Look Keo cleats. If you're buying used Look or Look copies they are probably Delta type which have a larger cleat base for which you have to use Delta cleats. I believe that the present Shimano Road SpD's are copies of the

Delta design which fell off of the patent term. However, if you overlay the Shimano road SpD cleat on a Keo, they look to have the same length though they re wider.

Shimano once sold France-built actual Look pedals rebadged. https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=DF177C1B-738B-4CB2-9DF5-60C300894BBF

There are no current Shimano pedals which are Look format,
not Delta, not Keo.
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I could have sworn I tried the new cleats in a Delta pedal and they fit. But I just tried them in bot Delta and Keo pedals and they wouldn't work

Sometimes with aftermarket Delta cleats I have had to closely observe where they are binding when you try to release them, and then file that area down a bit. Often it is just the nose of the pedal that has to be filed down a tiny bit where it contacts
the pedal, so it can slide in a little farther, in order for it to release OK.

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 10:54:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:03:06 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 10:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/19/2023 9:34 AM, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works?
TIA

Yes, there are several not-quite Look designs out there.
Any reason you didn't buy actual Look cleats?
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I use Look Keo pedals and Look Keo cleats. If you're buying used Look or Look copies they are probably Delta type which have a larger cleat base for which you have to use Delta cleats. I believe that the present Shimano Road SpD's are copies of

the Delta design which fell off of the patent term. However, if you overlay the Shimano road SpD cleat on a Keo, they look to have the same length though they re wider.

Shimano once sold France-built actual Look pedals rebadged. https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=DF177C1B-738B-4CB2-9DF5-60C300894BBF

There are no current Shimano pedals which are Look format,
not Delta, not Keo.
--
Andrew Muzi
a...@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I could have sworn I tried the new cleats in a Delta pedal and they fit. But I just tried them in bot Delta and Keo pedals and they wouldn't work

Sometimes with aftermarket Delta cleats I have had to closely observe where they are binding when you try to release them, and then file that area down a bit. Often it is just the nose of the pedal that has to be filed down a tiny bit where it contacts

the pedal, so it can slide in a little farther, in order for it to release OK.

Good thoughts, everybody. I'll consider that filing idea too.

JF

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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:35:01 AM UTC-7, Jim Flom wrote:

I grabbed a couple of different brands of replacement cleats for my cycling shoes. One's too loose (shoe comes out too easily), the other's too tight (won't release). Cleat replacment used to be so easy.
The pair I got at my LBS was too loose. I discarded the packaging and there's no brand name on the cleats themselves. Its main body is black, with red pads for the ground and white on the shoe side, where it clips into the pedal. A single cleat

actually separates into two nested pieces. There was no reliable clip in, clip out with it.

So I went onto Amazon and got TrubliFit (9 degree float). Red with a little black rectangle in the centre between the screws. That one is a total wrestling match to get my foot out of the pedal. Not safe. Got that on Amazon.
Anybody else have this problem? Have you foiund a brand that simply works? TIA

Honey how come you don't lie speedplay X2

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