• As h*lmets are to .tech, Mike Vandeman is to .soc--he's still out there

    From pH@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 5 19:13:00 2020
    Out of curiousity I searched Mike Vandeman's name.
    He seemed to disappear from Usenet around 2010.

    But I did find him here, responding to an article. By the arguements he posts it *has* to be him! Wowza.
    Aesop: "A leopard does not change his spots."

    Any thoughts?

    pH in Aptos

    Here's the link...

    https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/2020/01/19/bay-area-lawmakers-support-state-buying-livermore-ranch-for-20-million

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 5 19:32:25 2020
    On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 7:13:01 PM UTC-8, pH wrote:
    Out of curiousity I searched Mike Vandeman's name.
    He seemed to disappear from Usenet around 2010.

    But I did find him here, responding to an article. By the arguements he posts it *has* to be him! Wowza.
    Aesop: "A leopard does not change his spots."

    Any thoughts?

    pH in Aptos

    Here's the link...

    https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/2020/01/19/bay-area-lawmakers-support-state-buying-livermore-ranch-for-20-million

    Re: Mike Vandeman
    Here's a fresh 2020 link to his 'faq' site. Hey, we used to refer people to the faq all the time....I forgot where it is.

    http://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm

    pH in Aptos



    pH in Aptos

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  • From EdwardDolan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 20 15:58:35 2020
    MIke Vandeman is a crackpot. He is not susceptible to reasonable argument. I gave up on him when I learned he was a typical California leftist who
    favored immigration from south of the border even though he professes
    concern about the environment. His left hand does not know what his right
    hand is doing. Usenet is well rid of him.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    "pH" wrote in message news:1b02ee2c-e4c0-4c14-921c-f354499f0ff2@googlegroups.com...

    Out of curiousity I searched Mike Vandeman's name.
    He seemed to disappear from Usenet around 2010.

    But I did find him here, responding to an article. By the arguements he posts it *has* to be him! Wowza.
    Aesop: "A leopard does not change his spots."

    Any thoughts?

    pH in Aptos

    Here's the link...

    https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/2020/01/19/bay-area-lawmakers-support-state-buying-livermore-ranch-for-20-million

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Mon Apr 20 15:43:02 2020
    On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:58:36 PM UTC-7, Edward Dolan wrote:
    MIke Vandeman is a crackpot. He is not susceptible to reasonable argument. I gave up on him when I learned he was a typical California leftist who
    favored immigration from south of the border even though he professes
    concern about the environment. His left hand does not know what his right hand is doing. Usenet is well rid of him.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota


    Holy Smokes, It's Ed Dolan the Great.
    Hi, Mr. D. Long time no hear and it's good to see you are still keeping track of Usenet.

    I'm a Californian and I certainly understand your sentiments about of a lot of my co-inhabitants.
    My mom was a legal immigrant from Latvia after WWII who had to jump through a lot of hoops to get here. She is not real pleased w/ who some people are "jumping the line" these days.

    I hope you keep in mind that there are a lot of people here who are not "typical" leftists.

    Based on what I know so far I do agree with you about Mr. Vandeman's opions so far. He brings to mind some of the militant Vegan postings I've seen over the years.

    Welcome back!

    pH in Aptos





    "pH" wrote in message
    news:1b02ee2c-e4c0-4c14-
    Out of curiousity I searched Mike Vandeman's name.
    He seemed to disappear from Usenet around 2010.

    But I did find him here, responding to an article. By the arguements he posts it *has* to be him! Wowza.
    Aesop: "A leopard does not change his spots."

    Any thoughts?

    pH in Aptos

    Here's the link...

    https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/2020/01/19/bay-area-lawmakers-support-state-buying-livermore-ranch-for-20-million

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  • From EdwardDolan@21:1/5 to Edward Dolan on Tue Apr 28 16:24:33 2020
    Usenet today is not what it used to be. I am only here to make life
    miserable for Mike Vandeman should he ever show up again on RBS. But I
    think he is gone for good.

    Vandeman, liked a stopped clock, was right about a few things, but he was
    never consistent about anything. I cut him a lot of slack because of a
    few of his pet issues with which I agreed, but eventually I realized he
    had a one track mind. He was not only a crackpot, but a crank too. Such
    people are extremely tiresome because you can never have a real
    conversation with them. All they ever do is just spin, spin, spin! He
    thought you could reform those coming to this country from south of the
    border to be good environmentalists. I realized at that point that he was
    nuts! He was indefatigable, but I was more indefatigable.

    Between the two of us we pretty much destroyed RBS as a working
    newsgroup. But I think Usenet was already dying. It was exciting when it
    was new, but it seems like it is now dead. Usenet always needed monitors
    which it never had. Frankly, I was not sorry to see it go.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota


    "pH" wrote in message news:69369a31-4567-4537-b67e-6a7a4bbeebaa@googlegroups.com...

    On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:58:36 PM UTC-7, Edward Dolan wrote:
    MIke Vandeman is a crackpot. He is not susceptible to reasonable argument.
    I
    gave up on him when I learned he was a typical California leftist who
    favored immigration from south of the border even though he professes
    concern about the environment. His left hand does not know what his right hand is doing. Usenet is well rid of him.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota


    Holy Smokes, It's Ed Dolan the Great.
    Hi, Mr. D. Long time no hear and it's good to see you are still keeping
    track of Usenet.

    I'm a Californian and I certainly understand your sentiments about of a lot
    of my co-inhabitants.
    My mom was a legal immigrant from Latvia after WWII who had to jump through
    a lot of hoops to get here. She is not real pleased w/ who some people are "jumping the line" these days.

    I hope you keep in mind that there are a lot of people here who are not "typical" leftists.

    Based on what I know so far I do agree with you about Mr. Vandeman's opions
    so far. He brings to mind some of the militant Vegan postings I've seen
    over the years.

    Welcome back!

    pH in Aptos

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  • From pH@21:1/5 to John B on Wed Jul 10 00:39:33 2024
    On 2024-07-09, John B <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 19:13:00 -0800 (PST), pH <wb6dwp@gmail.com> wrote:

    Out of curiousity I searched Mike Vandeman's name.
    He seemed to disappear from Usenet around 2010.

    But I did find him here, responding to an article.
    By the arguements he posts it *has* to be him! Wowza.
    Aesop: "A leopard does not change his spots."

    Any thoughts?

    pH in Aptos

    Here's the link...

    https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/2020/01/19/bay- area-lawmakers-support-state-buying-livermore-ranch-for-20-million

    It's been sold
    The ranch was recently sold to Bill Brown, the founder of Walnut
    Creek's Central Garden and Pet Company, as well as his foundation, the William Brown Foundation, according to Todd Renfrew, who brokered the
    sale, which closed Monday.

    https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/n3-ranch-state-park-livermore-bill-brown-16568866.php

    Ask and ye shall receive. Thank-you for that update.

    pH

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