We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the foot
steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the foot

steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

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On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the foot

steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly
rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since
been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member
data.

Frank Whiteley

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:41:28 PM UTC-8, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

Frank, ignore PottyMouth - he is strung WAY TOO TIGHT!

Tom

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 11:08:57 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 11/28/2022 4:41 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

Could there be insurance issues if club pilots are not SSA members?
--
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

Eric, we run a pretty tight ship, several years ago our club voted not to become a chapter club, We carry plenty of insurance through Costello and other vendors including D&O insurance and other insurance. It is extremely troubling that you cannot get
good information from the SSA website. Say you log on and scroll down to find members the resulting searches do NOT provide accurate information, some current members do not show up in the find results, yet I had in hand a copy of two current members
cards and member numbers. So, I guess as Frank confirms just because someone shows up as a member under find members it doesn't mean they are members and also someone can be a member and not show up as a member at all. Why would the Member dot org show
any different information than Find Members under your login options? Bob Youngblood SSA Member

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

When the first thing that is said is a comment about SSA membership it reflects an indication that it is somehow negative if someone is not a member.
That is nonsense. What is important is that we grow the sport any way we can. SSA membership is a fairly good indicator of growth, and can be a useful resource but it is not an end all and be all.
I'm fairly familiar with how this club works and know that they require SSA membership to be covered under their insurance plan.
The fact that an individual membership may not show up on researching in some parts of the SSA system in not the fault of the member, it is a shortfall in the SSA system that in my experience does not work all that well.
The fact that we still need to use the legacy web site for many of the important things we need is just one indication of how far SSA needs to go to get to full functionality.
I'm a 60 year lifetime member so I think I probably have some perspective here. UH

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:41:02 AM UTC-5, johngf...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:30:44 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our

newly rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member
on not , and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just
be shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has

since been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current
member data.

Frank Whiteley

When the first thing that is said is a comment about SSA membership it reflects an indication that it is somehow negative if someone is not a member.
That is nonsense. What is important is that we grow the sport any way we can. SSA membership is a fairly good indicator of growth, and can be a useful resource but it is not an end all and be all.
I'm fairly familiar with how this club works and know that they require SSA membership to be covered under their insurance plan.
The fact that an individual membership may not show up on researching in some parts of the SSA system in not the fault of the member, it is a shortfall in the SSA system that in my experience does not work all that well.
The fact that we still need to use the legacy web site for many of the important things we need is just one indication of how far SSA needs to go to get to full functionality.
I'm a 60 year lifetime member so I think I probably have some perspective here.
UH

Agreed! The SSA website needs a major overhaul, to be simplified, where everything is accessible from one site with one login. Why do we need two separate logins to access two different sites, that are linked together? Some information is available on

one site, but you have to go to the other to find different information, with another/different login. Very cumbersome to use.

The main reason is that the new web site was designed from the start to be a marketing tool, something that was and is very much needed.
What was lost in the planning is that much of the member services the SSA provides are data base type stuff. The principle developer seemed to think this was not very important and paid little attention to this. It remains unclear to me how this will
ultimately be resolved. I use the Members legacy site for literally everything I do associated with SSA .
UH

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:30:44 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

When the first thing that is said is a comment about SSA membership it reflects an indication that it is somehow negative if someone is not a member.
That is nonsense. What is important is that we grow the sport any way we can. SSA membership is a fairly good indicator of growth, and can be a useful resource but it is not an end all and be all.
I'm fairly familiar with how this club works and know that they require SSA membership to be covered under their insurance plan.
The fact that an individual membership may not show up on researching in some parts of the SSA system in not the fault of the member, it is a shortfall in the SSA system that in my experience does not work all that well.
The fact that we still need to use the legacy web site for many of the important things we need is just one indication of how far SSA needs to go to get to full functionality.
I'm a 60 year lifetime member so I think I probably have some perspective here.
UH

Agreed! The SSA website needs a major overhaul, to be simplified, where everything is accessible from one site with one login. Why do we need two separate logins to access two different sites, that are linked together? Some information is available on
one site, but you have to go to the other to find different information, with another/different login. Very cumbersome to use.

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:51:52 PM UTC-5, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

Stay tuned, there is more coming on this topic, why should one have to navigate to different areas to get information. Information is information all within the same organization. Telling someone to search outside the find members section to another
members section is not doing the overall members any favors. OBTP

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

I'm Region 9 Director and on the SSA EXCOM and have some additional voluntary roles, like others who post to RAS occasionally. The SSA and its supported/sanctioned activities engage up to 350 volunteers. The members area of www.ssa.org is essentially a
blog. members.ssa.org is authoritative WRT memberships. I'm easy to reach.

Frank Whiteley

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 7:06:25 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our

newly rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member
on not , and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just
be shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has

since been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current
member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

I'm Region 9 Director and on the SSA EXCOM and have some additional voluntary roles, like others who post to RAS occasionally. The SSA and its supported/sanctioned activities engage up to 350 volunteers. The members area of www.ssa.org is essentially a

blog. members.ssa.org is authoritative WRT memberships. I'm easy to reach.

Frank Whiteley

Frank, maybe you could stop patting yourself on the back and be part of the solution to fix the website instead of being part of the problem. If the Society budgeted funds to get a professional web development it certainly would benefit the overall
membership. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 7:06:25 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our

newly rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member
on not , and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just
be shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has

since been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current
member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

I'm Region 9 Director and on the SSA EXCOM and have some additional voluntary roles, like others who post to RAS occasionally. The SSA and its supported/sanctioned activities engage up to 350 volunteers. The members area of www.ssa.org is essentially a

blog. members.ssa.org is authoritative WRT memberships. I'm easy to reach.

Frank Whiteley

The authoritative SSA.org site caused me to have to order my 2023 calendars by phone because of a 404 error. This is the first time in several months that I tried to use the site and it went clunk. To be fair, when I used the new system to process badge
leg applications earlier this year it worked really well.
I'll stick with Members for my other needs.
I fail to understand why an inquiry on either site would not access the same database, especially related to members.
UH- 25 year SSA volunteer.

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 4:11:29 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 7:06:25 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following

in the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our

newly rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member
on not , and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just
be shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has

since been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current
member data.

Frank Whiteley

OK, I believe you are "staff" at SSA, does the info on "SSA.ORG" match the info at "members.SSA.org"?
If so, I have found issues in info. I run a device that is slow on the Internet, so I use "members" to skip the flashy stuff.
If anyone has a current and valid SSA membership card, it should (within a month?) reflect on ANY SSA website.
Just asking.
BTW, I have been a life member since mid/late 70's. yes, I have kicked some dollars to cover the magazine and other stuff over the years...

So, what say you/SSA?

I'm Region 9 Director and on the SSA EXCOM and have some additional voluntary roles, like others who post to RAS occasionally. The SSA and its supported/sanctioned activities engage up to 350 volunteers. The members area of www.ssa.org is essentially

a blog. members.ssa.org is authoritative WRT memberships. I'm easy to reach.

Frank Whiteley

The authoritative SSA.org site caused me to have to order my 2023 calendars by phone because of a 404 error. This is the first time in several months that I tried to use the site and it went clunk. To be fair, when I used the new system to process

badge leg applications earlier this year it worked really well.

I'll stick with Members for my other needs.
I fail to understand why an inquiry on either site would not access the same database, especially related to members.
UH- 25 year SSA volunteer.

Exactly!!! Information is information. Maybe the SSA should budget the same funds for the website as they did OGN that only serves a few. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in the

foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

Two more youth potential members arrived today at TCSC, thank you Steve Shields for giving these kids their introductory rides. Tomorrow our newest 14 tear old is scheduled to take her first flight after her ground school session. I was happy to spend
another day in the seat of the Pawnee getting new youth involved in the activity of soaring. Old Bob, The Purist

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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:41:28 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-5, Hank Nixon wrote:

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-5, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:

We did it again, Tyler Dewenter made his solo flight today here at TCSC, we seem to be adding a lot of good young glider pilots to our club. Also a young 14 year old girl showed up today and will be joining our youth program and following in

the foot steps of the group of young glider pilots. Old Bob, The Purist

Yoose guys are doin' good!
UH

Thanks Hank, we try very hard to develop young glider pilots and IMHO we have done extremely well. Just yesterday I towed 4 youth members at 15 years old and less on solo flights. Since June 8 I have made 450 tows for training flights in our newly

rebuilt 2-33,AKA Sky Hag. A 14 year old was our last solo on his 14th birthday, yet Frank Whiteley took it upon himself to berate the achievement and claim that he was not an SSA member. Go back to R's thread to read his comments. Whether a member on not
, and he is a member , and his 52year old father was listed as a youth member, how does that happen, maybe they could make me a youth member, that would be great. In six years our club has never had a month in the red financially, one might just be
shocked at our financial standing and we are on the leading edge of a great influx of funds. I am just at a loss of words as to why anyone would diminish the achievement of a 14 year old on one of the most memorable times on their life. Bob Youngblood,
SSA Member

I never mentioned Tyler by name nor did I berate his accomplshment. I merely pointed out to you that the recent young solo pilot was not an SSA member following your comment that all your club youth were SSA members, Tyler's situation that has since

been rectified. To that end, all should be aware that just because someone may appear in the member blog on www.ssa.org, is not proof of membership in the SSA. SSA Membership Data on https://members.ssa.org is the only valid source of current member data.

Frank Whiteley

Two more youth potential members arrived today at TCSC, thank you Steve Shields for giving these kids their introductory rides. Tomorrow our newest 14 tear old is scheduled to take her first flight after her ground school session. I was happy to spend

another day in the seat of the Pawnee getting new youth involved in the activity of soaring. Old Bob, The Purist
Well, we did it again, on a beautiful December day with the temps in the cool 80's we had a great day of flying gliders and teaching new YOUTH members the wonderful world of glider flight. Yes, today we had three new youth members to participate in our
youth program. Taylor, a 14 years old girl along with Thomas and Wesley all took to the skies for glider training here in Vero Beach. Old Bob, The Purist

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