• Hamas wants cease-fire ++, but they fire rockets and kill more

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 5 19:08:59 2024
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    Hamas wants cease-fire, and they want it to be perminant,
    and they want more food delivered, but then they refuse
    to even return 33 hostages, and then they fire rockets
    and kill more Isralies

    from
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68960585

    Israel-Gaza war: Three soldiers killed in Kerem Shalom rocket attack
    6 hours ago
    By Malu Cursino & Emily Atkinson,
    BBC News

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    Reuters An Israeli medic walks near soldiers and an ambulance after the
    attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing, near Israel's border with Gaza in
    southern Israel, 5 May 2024.Reuters
    The armed wing of Hamas said it was responsible for rocket fire in the
    Kerem Shalom border area. (Pictured: An Israeli medic after the attack)
    Israel has closed the Kerem Shalom crossing into Gaza after Hamas fired
    rockets from within the strip.

    Israel said the attack killed three of its soldiers, injuring several
    others.

    The crossing is one of the few routes to get humanitarian aid, including
    food and medical supplies, into Gaza.

    Mediators in the Egypt have held two days of talks aimed at securing a
    deal for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of hostages held by Hamas.

    In a statement, Hamas said the latest round had ended on Sunday and that
    its delegation would now travel from Cairo to Qatar to consult with the
    group's leadership.

    The CIA chief William Burns, who has also been involved in mediation
    efforts, has also left the Egyptian capital for talks in Doha, according
    to reports.

    The truce proposal is believed to involve a 40-day pause in fighting
    while hostages are released, and the release of a number of Palestinian prisoners being held in Israeli jails.

    Hamas said it viewed the current proposal in a "positive light", but the
    main sticking point appears to be whether the ceasefire deal would be
    permanent or temporary.

    The group is insisting any deal makes a specific commitment towards an
    end to the war, but Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected
    that on Sunday.

    "The state of Israel cannot accept this [Hamas's demands], we are not
    prepared to accept a situation in which the Hamas brigades come out of
    their bunkers, take control of Gaza again, rebuild their military infrastructure, and return to threatening the citizens of Israel in the settlements surrounding the southern mountains, in all parts of the country.

    "This will be a terrible defeat for the state of Israel," he added.

    The war began after waves of Hamas gunmen stormed across Gaza's border
    into Israel on 7 October, killing about 1,200 people and taking more
    than 250 hostages. The group is proscribed as a terrorist organisation
    by many Western countries.

    During the subsequent Israeli military campaign in Gaza, more than
    34,600 Palestinians have been killed and over 77,900 wounded, according
    to figures from the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

    Mr Netanyahu has faced pressure from within his far-right coalition to
    press ahead with the long-promised offensive in Gaza's southern-most
    city, Rafah, where an estimated 1.4 million people have taken shelter
    after fleeing fighting in northern and central parts of the strip.

    The US is reluctant to back a military operation that could cause
    significant civilian casualties, and has insisted on seeing a plan to
    protect displaced Palestinians first.

    The Israeli government also faces mounting pressure at home.

    Of the 252 hostages who were kidnapped by Hamas on 7 October, 128 are
    still unaccounted for - and among them, at least 34 are presumed dead.

    Al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas's armed wing, says it carried out the attack
    on the Kerem Shalom crossing, saying it had targeted troops with
    short-range rockets.

    The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) said 10 projectiles had been fired from
    an area near the Rafah crossing in southern Gaza, about 3.6km (2.2
    miles) from Kerem Shalom.

    The IDF said they were fired from a site some 350m from a civilian
    shelter, before it destroyed the launcher and a nearby military site.

    It called the launches "another clear example of the terrorist
    organisation's systematic exploitation of humanitarian facilities and
    spaces, and their continued use of the Gazan civilian population as
    human shields".

    Ceasefire talks have gone on for months without a breakthrough, and
    there has not been a pause in fighting or a release of hostages since
    the end of November.

    There have been moments at which a new agreement has seemed imminent -
    only to fall through before being signed.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 5 19:18:51 2024
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    On 5/5/24 19:08, a425couple wrote:
    Hamas wants cease-fire, and they want it to be perminant,
    and they want more food delivered, but then they refuse
    to even return 33 hostages, and then they fire rockets
    and kill more Isralies

    from
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68960585

    Israel-Gaza war: Three soldiers killed in Kerem Shalom rocket attack
    6 hours ago
    By Malu Cursino & Emily Atkinson,
    BBC News


    Hamas even admits and claims responsibility!
    see also

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/israel-attacks-rafah-after-hamas-claims-responsibility-for-deadly-rocket-attack-101714950229478.html

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Mon May 6 14:50:32 2024
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote in news:f6XZN.94028$gF_b.4790@fx17.iad:

    On 5/5/24 19:08, a425couple wrote:
    Hamas wants cease-fire, and they want it to be perminant,
    and they want more food delivered, but then they refuse
    to even return 33 hostages, and then they fire rockets
    and kill more Isralies

    from
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68960585

    Israel-Gaza war: Three soldiers killed in Kerem Shalom rocket attack
    6 hours ago
    By Malu Cursino & Emily Atkinson,
    BBC News


    Hamas even admits and claims responsibility!
    see also

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/israel-attacks-rafah-after-ha mas-claims-responsibility-for-deadly-rocket-attack-101714950229478.html



    Netanyahu sent money to Hamas. He wanted to prevent Gaza from gaining
    nation status. It's not a stretch that the attack on Isreal and
    subsequent total destruction of Gaza is a conspiracy by Netanyahu - and
    that he plans to annex Gaza.

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