• Re: UK says Russia Relying on 'Mass Over Quality'

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 4 08:10:15 2024
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    On 5/4/24 08:05, a425couple wrote:
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    Russia Relying on 'Mass Over Quality' As Moscow Faces Rising Losses: UK Published May 04, 2024 at 8:16 AM EDT

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    Russia On Course For Deadliest Week In Months: Kyiv
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    Russia's military has adapted to the high losses of troops on the
    battlefield in Ukraine and it is likely to continue its tactic of
    throwing troops forward during offensives until the end of the war,
    according to British military officials.

    The term "meat grinder" is used

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    Nevada Smith
    2 hours ago

    Russia has always relied on 'Mass Over Quality' just look at their mass casualties in WWII. Only now they don't realize they no longer have the population to throw away. They no longer have the masses of untrained
    poorly equip troops to send in to battle and win wars.


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    Mydog Hasfleas
    2 hours ago

    For a country that's so concerned about its declining population, they
    sure seem cavalier about throwing away young men's lives. They're
    digging their own hole.


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    Hunter Biden
    50 minutes ago

    Exactly, where are all the Mexican and Africans that seem to rush into
    America? 😂


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    Michael Hamilton
    2 hours ago

    A disgusting Russian practice - - - In the Luhansk region, Russia has introduced a new form of coercion.

    Reports from the Institute for the Study of War and from local
    authorities reveal a chilling policy.

    In order to be discharged from maternity clinics, mothers are now
    required to demonstrate that at least one parent of the newborn holds
    Russian citizenship.

    Failure to comply could mean losing their newborns, a tactic that is
    sparking outrage and allegations of genocide.


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    roch kowalski
    2 hours ago

    Isn't this exactly the "Russian military doctrine"?


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    WB
    1 hour ago

    Yup. The tiniest gain is worth any level of cost.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 4 08:05:02 2024
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    from
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-mod-losses-1897297

    Russia Relying on 'Mass Over Quality' As Moscow Faces Rising Losses: UK Published May 04, 2024 at 8:16 AM EDT

    01:02
    Russia On Course For Deadliest Week In Months: Kyiv
    By Brendan Cole
    Senior News Reporter
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    Russia's military has adapted to the high losses of troops on the
    battlefield in Ukraine and it is likely to continue its tactic of
    throwing troops forward during offensives until the end of the war,
    according to British military officials.

    The term "meat grinder" is used to describe Russia's tactic of sending
    waves of often ill-trained and ill-equipped soldiers to wear down
    Ukrainian forces and expose their locations to Russian artillery. Using
    this method, Russia's gains have been incremental but its forces have
    built on momentum following the capture of Avdiivka in the Donetsk
    oblast, albeit at a huge cost.

    According to Ukraine's latest figures released on Saturday, Russian
    forces suffered losses of more than 1,000 for the seventh day in a row,
    with the 1,260 casualties of both killed and wounded taking the war's
    total to 473,400.

    Ukrainian troops
    This illustrative image from April 15, 2024 shows Ukrainian officers of
    the special police force "White Angel" during the evacuation of local
    residents from the village of Ocheretyne not far from Avdiivka town in
    the... More ANATOLII STEPANOV/GETTY IMAGES
    While an accurate count of Russian personnel losses is tricky to
    calculate, it is not far off the 465,000 estimate given on Saturday by
    the U.K. Ministry of Defense (MOD) which said casualties will increase
    again in May and June amid renewed offensive operations in the east of
    Ukraine. This follows "a slight decrease in the pace of operations" over
    the last two months, it added.

    "It is likely that despite the extreme cost in life, Russia has fully
    adapted its military to attritional warfare which relies on mass over
    quality," the British officials said.

    "This reliance on mass will almost certainly continue for the duration
    of the Ukraine war and have long-lasting effects on Russia's future army."

    Newsweek has contacted the Russian defense ministry for comment on the
    latest British daily assessment which tends to highlight Moscow's losses
    and Ukraine's gains.

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    Ukraine and the U.K.'s estimates of Russian casualties roughly chime
    with those given by France, whose foreign minister Stéphane Séjourne
    told independent outlet Novaya Gazyeta had reached 500,000, 150,000 of
    whom had been killed.

    Russia has not given any update to its tally of losses since it said in September 2022 that just under 6,000 troops had been killed.

    Ukraine has not given an update of its losses since President Volodymyr Zelensky said in February that 31,000 of his troops had been killed.
    However, Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu said on Friday that
    Kyiv's troop losses had surpassed 111,000.

    Meanwhile, independent outlet Mediazona has been working with BBC News
    Russian service to compile the number of deaths of Russia's soldiers,
    drawing on publicly available information such as obituaries and online notices. Their latest figures revealed on April 26 that at least 51,679
    Russian troops had been killed, although they emphasize the actual
    number of deaths was likely a lot higher.

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