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    Opinion Canada
    Why isn’t Canada an economic giant?
    The North American nation has vast potential, yet underperforms on the
    global stage
    TEJ PARIKHAdd to myFT


    A freight train passes through Pincher Creek in southern Alberta.
    Canada’s geography suggests it could be an economic powerhouse but it
    suffers from low productivity © Artur Widak/NurPhoto/Reuters

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    Canada rarely makes the global news. When it does, it is often in
    reference to the exploits of Canadian entertainers — Justin Bieber,
    Céline Dion and Drake. For a country of about 40mn people, roughly the population of California, that is not a bad return on celebrity icons.
    But while the country may exceed expectations in the pop and rap arena,
    it underwhelms on the international economic stage, relative to its vast potential.

    By land mass it is the second-largest country in the world, with the
    longest coastline. Bookended by the vast Pacific and Atlantic oceans it
    has enormous trading advantages, alongside access to the largely
    untapped Arctic to its north. It is a net energy exporter; it has the third-largest proven oil reserves and is the fifth-largest producer of
    natural gas — but it also boasts large deposits of critical minerals
    vital to the green energy transition. And, of course, it borders the
    world’s largest economy.

    By any measure, Canada’s geography suggests it could be an economic powerhouse. But few ever talk about it in such terms. By purchasing
    power parity, its economy is ranked 15th globally by size, behind the
    likes of Turkey, Italy and Mexico. The OECD has forecast Canadian per
    capita gross domestic product growth up to 2060 to be the lowest among
    advanced nations.

    Canada boomed at the turn of the 20th century. Settlements grew, industrialisation was in full swing, investment rolled in from the UK
    and US. In 1904 Wilfrid Laurier, then prime minister, predicted “the
    20th century shall be the century of Canada and Canadian development”.
    Yet, post-second world war expansion gave way to periods of high
    inflation, rising deficits and low commodity prices. Laurier’s forecast
    was not true for the last century and so far it is not true for the 21st either: PwC’s The World in 2050 report expects Canada’s global economic ranking to slip to 22nd by the middle of the century.

    Poor productivity is at the heart of the country’s growth challenges. In
    an hour a Canadian worker produces just over 70 per cent of what an
    American can — that’s below the euro area and even the UK based on 2022 data. Many would have expected the resource-rich economy to benefit as globalisation powered forward, but its relative labour productivity has actually slipped since 2000.

    Canada has aggressively pursued free-trade deals; it is currently the
    only G7 nation to have such agreements in force with all other G7
    members. But it has not been able to take advantage of that. “Two of the economy’s previous main drivers of economic growth — natural resources
    and manufacturing — have struggled to expand in recent years, due to a combination of a more onerous regulatory backdrop and increased
    competition from abroad,” says Stephen Brown, deputy chief North America economist at Capital Economics.

    Researchers at HEC Montreal’s Centre for Productivity and Prosperity
    argue that Canadian industry is not strong enough to compete globally.
    Indeed, the country’s vast size, mountainous geography and provincial legislation may hinder competition, investment and innovation among its companies. The Business Council of Alberta estimates these internal
    trade barriers are equivalent to a 6.9 per cent tariff on goods.
    Protectionist measures on top have often coddled Canadian industry.

    A lot comes down to population. Canada has one of the lowest population densities in the world. Its fertility rate has been declining sharply
    and it does not have enough people to capitalise on its economic
    potential. Priorities may also be different from those of other
    countries. Canada ranks high on health, education and life satisfaction indicators; its leading cities, Calgary, Vancouver, and Toronto, are
    considered among the world’s best to live in. And the country
    consistently ranks among the top destinations for emigrants.

    Canada’s attractiveness as a place to live and its openness to
    immigration means there is scope to turn its demographic problems
    around. Last year, it achieved its highest annual population growth rate
    in more than 60 years, in part due to government efforts to recruit
    migrants. The climate transition is already raising demand for its vast
    copper and nickel resources as well. The melting of the Arctic ice shelf
    will open new trading opportunities for northern Canada.

    Rising up the GDP tables is not the be-all and end-all for any nation.
    And clearly the Canadian lifestyle is coveted around the world — and not
    just in developing nations. Yet, as long as current trends in
    productivity continue, living standards will drop and Canada’s enormous economic potential will remain latent. That would be a great shame for
    the thousands moving there seeking a better life, and for the global
    economy.

    tej.parikh@ft.com


    'idiotpatrol' says
    Over 40% of Canadian adults are functionally illiterate: they
    cannot read appliance instruction manuals, struggle to understand basic
    written materials relevant to everyday life, etc.

    Over 25% of incoming Ontario university students are functionally
    illiterate (using the same standard).

    The stats show roughly similar levels of illiteracy for immigrant and non-immigrant populations, so don't bother with that angle.

    Meanwhile, the British Columbia government is spending roughly the price
    of one Vancouver house (a whopping CAD 3.4 million/year) on adult
    literacy. In a province where 45% of adults are functionally illiterate
    and 52% are innumerate.

    So this "productivity" issue in Canada (1) is about much more than "productivity" and (2) is not going away any time soon.

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/let-s-get-digital-from-bitcoin-to-stocktok-plus-what-low-literacy-means-for-canada-s-economy-1.5873703/nearly-half-of-adult-canadians-struggle-with-literacy-and-that-s-bad-for-the-economy-1.5873757

    https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/FINAL%20R2R%20REPORT%20DESIGNED%20April%2012.pdf?_gl=1*ls462y*_ga*MTI5NzY5MjYzNi4xNjkzODQ3NTE5*_ga_K3JBNZ5N4P*MTY5Mzg0NzUxOS4xLjEuMTY5Mzg0NzUzOC4wLjAuMA
    (see pp. 76-77).

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2023PSFS0049-001346



    Maybe the extreme wokeness of the country as well as the third
    world immigration replacing the founding European populations are the
    cause .


    you forgot you are not allowed to say things like this!



    Younglion
    37 MINUTES AGO


    In reply to G2D
    So says the RAC IST.


    IR2018
    2 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    This is hilarious. Canada 'may have other priorities' like actually
    enjoying life which apparently is getting in the way of turning the
    place into a 'high productivity' hellscape. Productivity is not an end -
    its a means in service of something, usually the enrichment of a tiny
    minority. Canadians will ignore this insidious nonsense if they know
    what is (genuinely) good for them.



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    How do you continue to live an enjoyable life, without productivity
    growth though? Its essential for higher living standards. Not sure many Canadians are happy with exorbitant house prices.


    CanadianObserver
    1 HOUR AGO

    In reply to anontp
    You must be Canadian. "Don't worry. Someone else will pay all of the bills."


    ArgueBot2017
    44 MINUTES AGO
    (Edited)

    In reply to CanadianObserver
    Canada's debt to GDP ratio (91.9%) is significantly lower than that of
    the US (113.8%) . Given the intertwining of our economies, that is the
    only country comparison that matters to Canada.

    Source: https://www.worldeconomics.com/Debt/Canada.aspx


    Luca85!
    2 HOURS AGO

    In an hour a Canadian worker produces just over 70 per cent of what
    an American can — that’s below the euro area and even the UK based on
    2022 data.

    Ouch.




    Recent toughening up of a high level qualification for French
    required throughout Quebec region ( which includes Montreal) has made
    many investing companies twitchy and stymied the employment
    opportunities for new immigrants across the region, six months of deep
    hard winter, a passenger train system that is like a museum, a road infrastructure that is teeth and nerve shattering, a capital that is a
    quaint colonially inspired backwater, a housing crisis which seems to be impossible to fix, a lurking right wing ready to blame much needed international students and immigrants for this. Population of just 40m
    people. Lots more to be done to get it to be a real global player.


    My_angst
    3 HOURS AGO
    (Edited)
    Perhaps it is called contentment, having access to the beauty of the
    land is better than polluting it for a few dollars more the same for the
    UK. For those countries that grow... It is based on exploiting and
    destroying the free resources of the land


    mkb1
    3 HOURS AGO
    This is an incredibly shallow take on a subject around which much has
    been researched and written by several generations of scholars. The
    answer to the question (is this even remotely the right question?) has
    to do with the specific way Canada developed, vis-a-vis the US and how
    it became enmeshed in the world, the specific forces that emerged from
    that development pattern and how the have evolved in relation to
    Canada's peculiar constitutional framework. Answering this requires considerable knowledge beyond the gratuitous opinions of short-term
    visitors commented on hotel & tax rates.


    VKCAN
    3 HOURS AGO


    Why doesn't Canada rise to its full potential: Social Welfare and Incredible Taxes

    I just signed up for a hotel room in Vancouver. Taxes increased the cost
    by 50%. I am now staying outside the city of Vancouver where the taxes
    only increase the cost by 25%.

    A couple years ago I flew from Montreal to Detroit. Taxes increased the
    flight cost by 50%.

    Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.



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    This piece talks of "Canada’s attractiveness as a place to live"
    despite the author's claim that it is an economic underperformer. Maybe
    that reflects a happiness that's more important than growth. Maybe
    Canada is better off by not chopping down all it's trees, pumping all
    it's oil and mining all it's minerals in the endless pursuit of growth. Economists just don't get it.


    In reply to David
    Think the reference to "rising up the GDP tables is not the be-all and
    end-all for any nation" pretty much deals with that. The problem is that long-lasting happiness is a challenge for Canada if it cannot raise its productivity (living standards). As it is house prices are at historic
    highs; not sure that makes for happy people.


    Slow Lane
    4 HOURS AGO
    How is gdp per capita adjusted to be comparable? There are lots of gross
    ups in US data due to the private sector providing a greater share of
    key services including health and education. To over simplify it is a government cost in some countries and a business activity in others
    hence grossed up. I don’t doubt the US is higher for various reasons but
    not sure I believe the data presented and curious how it is massaged. My
    fairly extensive business travels to Canada and my own Canadian
    relatives do tend to confirm the thrust of the article and general gist
    of the comments below, e.g less ambitious, less risk taking, attachment
    to “Canadianness.”


    Soviet Canuck
    4 HOURS AGO
    "Arctic Mexico" is an apt name for Canada. I think it may be worse than
    Mexico. It is a dysfunctional democracy of a patchwork of provinces that
    have diametrically opposed interests, which a confederation is called to reconcile, but it does not.

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