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    Three wild alternate Fernando Alonso career histories, and how different
    F1 looks in each
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    Nov 26, 2018
    Laurence Edmondson Nate Saunders

    Fernando Alonso is leaving Formula One as a two-time world champion --
    but those titles seem like a lifetime ago.

    One of the most talented drivers of his generation is walking away at
    the end of a campaign which saw Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton
    fight it out for a fifth world championship, having been the two men to dominate the years since Alonso won his second title in 2006 -- both
    will have the chance to win more before retiring.

    Alonso explains why he is leaving F1 with no regrets and no plans to
    come back
    In an exclusive interview, Fernando Alonso gives his reasons for leaving
    F1 and explains why he has no plans to come back.

    But F1's recent history all could have been so different. Here we chart
    three alternate timelines Alonso's career could have followed to this
    point...

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    1: No McLaren implosion in 2007

    2. He joins Red Bull for 2008

    3. His two near-misses at Ferrari are two more world titles

    Scenario 1: He doesn't self-destruct at McLaren in 2007

    Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton celebrate first and third at the 2007
    opener in Australia -- but the happy days wouldn't last long for
    McLaren. AP Photo/Mark Baker

    When Alonso joined McLaren in 2007, it seemed like the F1 world was his.
    He'd just won two championships with Renault and had joined a team with
    the resources to end its years without a title. Famously, he was
    partnered with the young and talented rookie Lewis Hamilton -- a man who
    proved he was competitive from the first corner of the first race,
    swooping around the outside of Alonso at the start of the Australian
    Grand Prix.

    It was no flash in the pan: Hamilton was the real deal and Alonso
    crumbled under that pressure. He had gone to Woking as the man who had
    ended Michael Schumacher's run of five titles, expecting to be the
    defacto number one but Ron Dennis' refusal to play the team orders game irritated Alonso. Months of simmering tensions all came to a head at the Hungarian Grand Prix when Alonso followed up a silly decision with an incredibly rash one: after holding Hamilton up during qualifying at the Hungarian Grand Prix, Alonso threatened Dennis that he would show
    incriminating emails to the FIA which implicated McLaren in what became
    the Spygate scandal. Dennis called his bluff and went to the FIA
    himself, determined to save his team. To cap off a tumultuous year,
    Alonso and Hamilton were pipped to a title McLaren should have won by
    Kimi Raikkonen at the final race of the season. Alonso would leave the
    team at the end of the year for two years in F1 purgatory with a now uncompetitive Renault team.

    However, here we will assume Alonso doesn't make those mistakes and that
    he overcomes Hamilton's strong form in 2007 by keeping his head off
    track and churning out the results he needed to beat Hamilton and
    McLaren needed to see off Ferrari.

    Four straight and a different perception
    In this scenario, it's hard to see Alonso failing to win a fourth title
    in 2008. He would have been emboldened by his 2007 triumph and, given
    that he did not so badly damage the harmony at the team, would feel
    stronger than ever going into his second season with the team. As
    talented as Hamilton was from the start of his career, he was
    error-prone in the early days and was definitely beatable by a
    fully-focused Alonso in the same car. Talk to anyone from McLaren at the
    time and they will tell you most believed Alonso to be the better driver
    at that stage of their respective careers -- the tragedy was that he
    didn't listen and instead got caught up in his own paranoia about the team.

    It's not only the boyhood dream of being a McLaren champion that Alonso
    would have achieved here. Although he made mistakes after the original
    McLaren stint, the events of 2007 left a stain on Alonso's character for
    the rest of his career. His falling out with Ron Dennis -- and the fact
    he tried to blackmail his boss with incriminating emails from Spygate --
    sowed the seeds of the reputation that Alonso was a political animal, a
    man capable of pulling a team apart from within. It's the perception
    which stopped Mercedes boss Toto Wolff from picking up the phone and
    calling Alonso after Nico Rosberg's sudden retirement in 2016.

    Here, that legacy is non-existent. Sure, he could be competitive and
    fiery at times, but his four straight championships would echo louder
    than any negative voices in the paddock.

    What about Lewis?

    How different would Lewis Hamilton's reputation have been early in his
    career without a championship to his name? ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/Getty Images Hamilton was the man who emerged from the train-wreck of 2007 as
    McLaren's next world champion. But here we are suggesting Alonso, at the
    height of his powers, is his teammate -- a tough proposition for any
    rookie driver, no matter how talented. What followed 2008 for Hamilton
    was a period of erratic form which lasted several years. He squandered
    the championship with several high profile errors in 2010 before
    enduring a crash-riddled 2011 campaign.

    Here, he would have gone through that hardship without a championship to
    his name. He would have been a phenomenal talent who was just unable to
    get it done. Hamilton has since told ESPN he's not sure how he would
    have recovered mentally without winning the title in 2008 -- how would
    he have coped going in to 2009 having seen two championships go to the
    man driving the other car?

    Without that 2008 championship under his belt, can we be sure it would
    have been Hamilton having the poolside chat with Niki Lauda in the
    middle of the 2012 season, talking about Mercedes' ambitious V6 turbo
    project? Lauda may not have believed Hamilton was the person to lead it
    if he was simply a man who had failed to convert his talent into
    championships. It's fascinating to wonder how different his reputation
    would have been in the sport without that 2008 title and, by extension,
    how different Mercedes' recent past would look. We explore a few more of
    these in Scenario 2 below.

    Of course, we must consider how different the rest of F1 would be had
    things gone better for Alonso and McLaren in this period...

    Does 'Crashgate' still happen?
    In real life, Alonso was indirectly involved in a controversial incident
    in 2008. Having gone back to Renault he was in an uncompetitive car, a
    shadow of the team he had left just a year earlier. One of his two wins
    from that season would be controversial -- in Singapore, he pitted from
    low down the order shortly before teammate Nelson Piquet Jr spun and
    crashed at Turn 17. His stranded car prompted a Safety Car and promoted
    Alonso to the lead of the pack.

    What originally looked like a lucky coincidence turned out to have been
    much more than that. The following year, Piquet confessed he had been
    ordered to crash by team boss Flavio Briatore and technical director Pat Symonds in order to influence the result and help Alonso win. The
    following year Renault was punished and left the sport under a cloud at
    the end of 2009, while Briatore and Symonds received bans. Alonso's
    involvement has always been a controversial topic. He clearly benefited
    from the conspiracy but has never been implicated in it. Whether or not
    the Spaniard knew -- many have said he should have been suspicious about
    the amount of fuel put in his car before the race, which required a
    Safety Car at exactly the moment Piquet crashed to succeed -- his
    stature in the team at this point cannot be underplayed.

    Renault's board of directors were desperate for a win in 2008 -- the
    glory days of Alonso's original stint were long gone. But it's hard to
    imagine the team would have lured a star driver to drive its car had
    Alonso stayed at McLaren. Jenson Button might have been an option after
    a torrid year at Honda, but this was before his reputation was enhanced
    by winning the title in 2009. It's likely Nelson Piquet would have been partnered by Button or Giancarlo Fisichella. Both quick in their own
    right, but neither carrying the star power of Alonso in 2008. This begs
    the question, would Briatore -- Alonso's long-time manager -- have
    carried out such a ploy without someone like Alonso at the team?

    If he had, and the desire to win had still prompted Briatore and
    Symonds' moment of madness, the nature of the championship fight could
    have been drastically different in this version of events and its not
    beyond the realms of possibility that Renault's conspiracy actually hurt Alonso's championship chances instead of Felipe Massa's. In real life,
    Massa pitted from the lead of the race and left the box with his fuel
    hose still attached -- the Brazilian still cites it as the moment that
    cost him that year's title -- but the perpetrators would have had a fear
    of the unknown beforehand. Perhaps Briatore would have been dissuaded
    from going through with the plan if he felt it had the potential to hurt Alonso's title bid.

    No title for the Iceman

    Does Kimi Raikkonen have a championship in this alternate universe --
    and does he even care? Patrik Lundin/Getty Images
    Hamilton is not the only superstar in this timeline lacking championship pedigree. Alonso's title win in 2007 would have robbed Kimi Raikkonen of
    his only career triumph -- how his career would have developed from
    there is a fascinating prospect. Even if he has admitted lacking
    motivation, would he have still taken a sabbatical without a
    championship to his name? Would he have cultivated the same cult status
    he enjoys today? Unlike Hamilton, it's hard to see Raikkonen gaining
    many opportunities afterwards to win the title his talent deserved.

    Back to normality?
    After winning two titles, it's unlikely Alonso would have tolerated
    McLaren's disappointing 2009 campaign. The team massively underestimated
    the regulation change of that year, which famously saw Brawn GP rise
    from the ashes to win. In the final year of his deal, Alonso's
    competitive fire would have soon had him looking elsewhere for the next
    car to win his fifth title.

    This leaves a few options on the table. The most obvious is that he
    follows this reality and goes to Ferrari for 2010, albeit as a four-time
    world champion instead of a man who had spent two years in the
    wilderness at Renault. But would Ross Brawn have convinced him to join
    the Mercedes team which took over the 2009 world champions? Alonso would
    have just won two world titles with a Mercedes-powered car and may have
    felt a growing attatchment to the brand. The Spaniard always seemed
    destined for Ferrari at one point in his career but he may have viewed
    the next chapter of his career very differently were he not making up
    for lost time...

    Scenario 2: Alonso joins Red Bull in 2008

    Vladimir Rys Photography via Getty Images
    This is one of the more interesting scenarios on this list, not least
    because it very nearly happened. After it became clear Alonso and
    McLaren could no longer continue beyond the end of 2007, the Spaniard
    had two options on the table for 2008. One was to return to Renault
    (which is exactly what he did) but the second was to take a punt on the emerging force in Formula One at the time: Red Bull.

    In late 2007 Red Bull hadn't won a grand prix, but it had been slowly
    amassing a team to take on the F1 establishment. Adrian Newey had joined
    in 2006 and by this time he had started to get the pieces of the puzzle
    in place to turn Red Bull into the world beaters we saw between 2010 and
    2013. Alonso was at the top of Red Bull's driver wish-list but, under
    the management of Briatore, passed up the offer and instead returned to Renault.

    Getting in on the ground floor
    Had he joined Red Bull, he may not have scored the two wins he achieved
    for Renault in 2008 but surely would have seen the promising signs from
    the 2009 wind tunnel models.

    Paired with his good mate Mark Webber in his first year, there would
    have been an extended honeymoon period and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he would have secured a one-off win -- after all,
    Vettel took an almost identical car painted in Toro Rosso colours to
    victory in Monza that year. But it's more likely he would have ended up alongside David Coulthard for a single season in 2008. As Webber was
    also under the management of Briatore at the time, the Australian would probably have been used as a pawn to fill the gap at Renault, giving
    Alonso the opportunity to stamp his authority on his new team by going
    up against Coulthard, who was well past his best and in the final year
    of his career.

    But 2009 is when this scenario gets really interesting. Red Bull missed
    the double-diffuser trick at the start of the season, allowing Brawn GP
    to get a march on them in the first half of the year, but Alonso has
    always been quick in less-than-competitive cars. Imagine if he'd grinded
    out better results than Vettel managed in those early races and then had
    the platform to truly challenge Jenson Button for the title towards the
    end of the year.

    The Red Bull was the fastest car on the grid by the end of the 2009
    season and he could have slammed home that advantage to put the brakes
    on the Brawn GP fairy tale in the final few races of the year.
    Potentially that would have added the elusive third championship right
    there and then.

    Fernando verses Sebastian

    Who would have emerged victorious if Sebastian Vettel and Fernando
    Alonso had done battle in identical cars in the early 2010s? Lars
    Baron/Getty Images
    The big question with the Red Bull scenario is how the power dynamic
    would have played out when Vettel joined in 2009. No doubt, Helmut
    Marko, the head of Red Bull's driver programme, would have lobbied hard
    to get the young German the best of everything, but Alonso would have
    already been at the team for a full season before they became teammates.
    If he'd managed to get Red Bull's overall boss Dietrich Mateschitz on
    side, which is likely considering Red Bull went after him at the end of
    2007, he could have been in a strong position within the team. It would
    have created another fascinating power dynamic behind closed doors,
    giving Alonso another shot at the scenario he had faced with Hamilton at McLaren.

    Surely the Spaniard would have learned from the experience at McLaren,
    and given Vettel's propensity for errors early in his Red Bull career,
    it's likely Alonso would have got the better of him in 2010. Vettel's confidence may have taken a knock at that stage, but with Marko behind
    him and the blown-diffuser cars he loved so much coming on stream in
    2011, it's possible he would have taken a title off Alonso in their
    third year together.

    That would have created a tense situation at the team ahead of 2012 -- a
    season in which blown diffusers were banned and Red Bull initially lost
    ground to its opposition. In that scenario you'd have to say Alonso
    would have come out on top again, but if you thought there were politics
    at play in 2010 between Webber and Vettel at Red Bull, just imagine the scenario that would have unfolded with Alonso involved! There's no
    telling whether such a partnership would have survived through to 2013,
    but you can guarantee Alonso would have come away from Red Bull with at
    least two more championships than he had from the same period with
    Ferrari -- and Vettel would have two less.

    Even if Alonso did stay until the end of 2013 and even if he came away
    with four world championships between 2010 and 2013, it's unlikely he
    would have had the appetite to remain at Red Bull when he learned of
    Renault's power deficit in 2014. That creates the question of whether
    he, rather than Vettel, move to Ferrari in 2015 and whether he, rather
    than Vettel, would have been in a position to challenge Hamilton for the
    title over these past two years.

    Alonso clearly had a strong desire to go to Ferrari and it's hard to
    imagine him going anywhere else after a long stint at Red Bull. Mercedes
    would have still taken Hamilton on from McLaren in 2013, but perhaps
    Alonso would have been the right man to challenge the Silver Arrows in
    2017 and 2018.

    But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's first look at how Alonso
    moving to Red Bull in 2008 would have impacted on the rest of the driver
    market from that point until 2014...

    An altered landscape
    Sticking with the assumption that Webber would have gone to Renault in
    2008, again there is the question of whether the Singapore 'Crashgate'
    scandal would have happened. Webber has always been keen to win races
    fair and square and it's hard to believe he would have gone along with
    what was essentially race-fixing. Would the absence of 'Crashgate' have
    kept Renault in the sport beyond 2009? That's almost impossible to say
    given the impact of the worldwide financial crash during the same
    period, but it certainly would have allowed the French manufacturer to
    leave with more dignity at the end of 2009.

    This Red Bull scenario also rules out Alonso going to Ferrari in 2010,
    which means Kimi Raikkonen would likely have stayed on alongside Felipe
    Massa for the final year of his contract. If you want to get really
    outlandish, it also raises the possibility of Michael Schumacher
    rejoining his old team rather than Mercedes in 2010 if Ferrari was
    intent on getting rid of Raikkonen. Schumacher initially wanted to make
    his F1 return in 2009 in place of the injured Massa but was prevented
    from doing so because of a neck injury sustained in a motorbike accident earlier that year. Without Alonso on the horizon, perhaps Ferrari would
    have welcomed Schumacher back in 2010 in a race-winning car!

    Of course, it still would have required paying off Raikkonen or ditching
    Massa. With Raikkonen there is a question of whether Ferrari would have
    wanted to do that to bring back the man Raikkonen replaced in in the
    first place in 2007. With Massa it would have meant sacking a guy who
    nearly died in the team's car several months earlier. Both are
    possibilities, but with the Ross Brawn connection at Mercedes, it is
    more likely Schumacher would have gone there and Raikkonen would have
    stayed at Ferrari.

    A lifeline for Bobby K?

    Tim Goode/PA Images via Getty Images
    Alonso's absence at Ferrari would have created an opening for Robert
    Kubica a bit further down the line. If Raikkonen had struggled in 2010
    then it's entirely believable that he would have left the team for his sabbatical at the end of that year and Kubica would have been next in
    line to make his pre-arranged switch a year early and, significantly,
    before his rally crash in 2011. A tighter Ferrari contract may have
    prevented him from taking part in the 2011 Ronde Di Andora, and perhaps
    he would have been one of Alonso's main threats in the period between
    2011 and 2013. Thereafter, a Kubica/Alonso partnership at Ferrari could
    have offered a genuine threat to Mercedes over 2017 and 2018, resulting
    in Hamilton still being stuck on three titles while Alonso, assuming he
    won four at Red Bull, possibly celebrating his record-breaking eighth.

    Pure fantasy? Probably. But it makes you think ...

    Scenario 3: He still implodes at McLaren in 2007, but the near-misses
    which followed Ferrari are championships

    Fernando Alonso's 2010 championship crumbled at the final race, when he
    got stuck behind Renault's Vitaly Petrov at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
    Clive Mason/Getty Images
    In this timeline, everything up until the end of 2009 happened as it did
    in real life. Alonso's politicking at McLaren forces him to spend two
    years in the wilderness at Renault before he secures a dream move to
    Ferrari for the 2010 campaign.

    Then, reality changes. After seeing Alonso wrestle back a 47-point
    deficit late in the season and snatch the championship lead in Korea,
    Ferrari keeps its head at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and opts against the calamitous pit-stop call which cost him that year's title and handed it
    to Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel. Two years later he follows it up with
    the crowning achievement of his career, a remarkable victory over Vettel
    in the 2012 championship despite spending much of the year without the
    quickest car at his disposal -- in reality, he narrowly lost the title
    at that year's season finale.

    Patience is a virtue
    By 2014 in real life, Alonso's patience with Ferrari had worn thin. He
    had failed to win two championships and, having seen how far off the
    pace it was with the new V6 turbo regulations, had lost faith that he
    would ever win one with the Italian team. Here, his 2010 and 2012 titles
    have given him positive memories and belief in Ferrari's ability to win
    and, most importantly, have made him a Maranello legend. The nature of
    his 2012 win, especially, where he stayed in contention throughout the
    year with a car nowhere near fastest on the grid, would have elevated
    his reputation into the stratosphere.

    Would the team have sought out the services of Vettel in 2014 in this
    scenario? We don't think so, because of the impact those wins had on the
    career of another man.

    Popular team boss Stefano Domenicali became collateral damage in 2014
    when Ferrari's failure to master the V6 turbo era became apparent. His replacement, short-lived team principal Matteo Mattiaci, instantly
    clashed with Alonso and began the courtship of Vettel. Without this
    split, Domenicali could have pointed to the two world championship shiny trophies in Alonso's cabinet to convince him that better times were just
    around the corner. In reality, signs of a revival started to emerge in
    2015 so it would not have taken long for Alonso to see the light at the
    end of the tunnel.

    Vettel vs Ricciardo, again

    Sebastian Vettel struggled to match Daniel Ricciardo when the Australian
    was promoted to be his teammate at Red Bull in 2014. Mark Thompson/Getty
    Images
    Were the path to Ferrari blocked by Alonso, Vettel's career choices from
    here are fascinating to consider. In this timeline he would have won two dominant titles in 2011 and 2013, leading to accusations he can only win
    with the right car. Don't believe me? Consider the fact Vettel already
    got those criticisms with the four he won at the start of the decade.
    This perception would have been emboldened by Daniel Ricciardo's
    breakthrough year in 2014, which made a struggling Vettel look pretty
    ordinary in the new breed of F1 car. Its easy to imagine Vettel would
    have still been looking for a way out in 2014.

    He may still have gone to Ferrari, although its hard to imagine Alonso
    allowing this move to happen while he was there, but two obvious career
    paths open up here. One is that his good friend Toto Wolff secures his
    services at Mercedes in 2015 when there was uncertainty about Nico
    Rosberg's future -- Vettel's German heritage and championship pedigree
    would have been manna from heaven for Mercedes' Stuggart board.

    The other is that Vettel took Alonso's actual path to McLaren and joined
    its doomed project with Honda. But, how doomed would it have been
    without Alonso there?

    McLaren believes in Honda
    Had Alonso kept his overalls red instead of switching to McLaren in
    2015, there is an interesting alternative reality to consider for the
    Woking team. Honda still would have made a mess of its first V6 turbo
    engine that year but if it hadn't gone after Vettel it's likely the team
    would have stuck with young Kevin Magnussen -- who was unceremoniously
    dropped for Alonso after his rookie season -- alongside Button.

    While frustration in those early days was high, it's unlikely any other
    driver would have made as much negative noise as Alonso did in the same
    era. Button held a genuine affinity for Honda which did not seem to wane
    in the same way Alonso's did, while Magnussen would have been in the
    early days of his career and not in a position to rock the boat too
    much. It's hard to imagine either of those men opening up their radio
    channel at Honda's home race, the Japanese Grand Prix, to publicly
    rebuke its engine by comparing it to GP2 -- F1's main feeder series --
    as Alonso infamously did in the first year of the partnership.

    New boss Zak Brown has moved mountains to keep Alonso happy -- ditching
    Honda was part of that. Whether or not Brown took over here, its not
    crazy to suggest McLaren and Honda could have tiptoed through their
    differences more easily. Honda would eventually make the progress we've
    seen this year with Toro Rosso and now, instead of talking up the
    potential of Red Bull-Honda, we'd be talking about 2019 as the year the McLaren-Honda project finally lived up to its potential.

    Side note: What happens to Stoffel Vandoorne here if Magnussen stayed
    with McLaren? Released from the McLaren project, maybe he found himself
    some competitive machinery after his record-breaking Formula 2
    championship and maintained the hype that accompanied his early career.
    Or does McLaren jettison Button early and stick with its two young
    drivers, entering its big 2019 season with Magnussen and Vandoorne at
    the helm?

    Lewis verses Fernando: Part 2

    Fans have never been treated to another Lewis Hamilton-Fernando Alonso championship fight Sutton Images
    This last one is the most tantalising of the "what might have been"
    scenarios. Alonso patience with Ferrari would have paid dividends in
    2017 and 2018, with a car suddenly capable of competing for
    championships -- remember, the Spaniard already has four in this
    timeline, two of which came in red. Mercedes' dominance of the V6 turbo
    era has allowed Hamilton to become a three-time champion going in to
    2017 -- adding at least two to the one he won in Alonso's absence in
    2008, presuming he still loses out to Nico Rosberg in 2016.


    Here, we have the prospect of at least two years of fighting between
    arguably the grid's two most talented drivers. Reliability might have
    cost Alonso dearly in 2017 as it did with Vettel, but there are a
    significant amount of people in the paddock who think Alonso would have
    done a better job with Ferrari's superb 2018 challenger than Vettel did
    in real life. Spurred on by the challenge of his old teammate, the
    improved, mature Hamilton, Alonso would have surely relished this contest.

    What all this means is simple: in this universe, on this weekend,
    instead of bidding Alonso farewell, we would be watching him and
    Hamilton do battle for another world championship. Neither has any plans
    of retiring any time soon and the fight looks set to continue on as a
    trilogy in 2019. It's the championship fight many have dreamed of, but
    we've never had the chance to see again.

    What might have been, indeed...

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    Three wild alternate Fernando Alonso career histories, and how
    different F1 looks in each play
    [snip]

    Quick links:
    1: No McLaren implosion in 2007

    2. He joins Red Bull for 2008

    3. His two near-misses at Ferrari are two more world titles

    I am sure someone not too far away has had those three wet dreams many
    times over the years.

    Of course his most frequent would be:

    4. Honda tested their drivetrain

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    On 12/10/2018 12:21 PM, a425couple wrote:
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    Three wild alternate Fernando Alonso career histories, and how different
    F1 looks in each
    play
    Nov 26, 2018
    Laurence Edmondson Nate Saunders

    Fernando Alonso is leaving Formula One as a two-time world champion --
    but those titles seem like a lifetime ago.

    One of the most talented drivers of his generation is walking away at
    the end of a campaign which saw Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton
    fight it out for a fifth world championship, having been the two men to dominate the years since Alonso won his second title in 2006 -- both
    will have the chance to win more before retiring.

    Alonso explains why he is leaving F1 with no regrets and no plans to
    come back
    In an exclusive interview, Fernando Alonso gives his reasons for leaving
    F1 and explains why he has no plans to come back.

    But F1's recent history all could have been so different. Here we chart
    three alternate timelines Alonso's career could have followed to this point...

    Quick links:
    1: No McLaren implosion in 2007

    2. He joins Red Bull for 2008

    3. His two near-misses at Ferrari are two more world titles

    Scenario 1: He doesn't self-destruct at McLaren in 2007

    Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton celebrate first and third at the 2007 opener in Australia -- but the happy days wouldn't last long for
    McLaren. AP Photo/Mark Baker

    When Alonso joined McLaren in 2007, it seemed like the F1 world was his.
    He'd just won two championships with Renault and had joined a team with
    the resources to end its years without a title. Famously, he was
    partnered with the young and talented rookie Lewis Hamilton -- a man who proved he was competitive from the first corner of the first race,
    swooping around the outside of Alonso at the start of the Australian
    Grand Prix.

    It was no flash in the pan: Hamilton was the real deal and Alonso
    crumbled under that pressure. He had gone to Woking as the man who had
    ended Michael Schumacher's run of five titles, expecting to be the
    defacto number one but Ron Dennis' refusal to play the team orders game irritated Alonso. Months of simmering tensions all came to a head at the Hungarian Grand Prix when Alonso followed up a silly decision with an incredibly rash one: after holding Hamilton up during qualifying at the Hungarian Grand Prix, Alonso threatened Dennis that he would show incriminating emails to the FIA which implicated McLaren in what became
    the Spygate scandal. Dennis called his bluff and went to the FIA
    himself, determined to save his team. To cap off a tumultuous year,
    Alonso and Hamilton were pipped to a title McLaren should have won by
    Kimi Raikkonen at the final race of the season. Alonso would leave the
    team at the end of the year for two years in F1 purgatory with a now uncompetitive Renault team.

    However, here we will assume Alonso doesn't make those mistakes and that
    he overcomes Hamilton's strong form in 2007 by keeping his head off
    track and churning out the results he needed to beat Hamilton and
    McLaren needed to see off Ferrari.

    Four straight and a different perception
    In this scenario, it's hard to see Alonso failing to win a fourth title
    in 2008. He would have been emboldened by his 2007 triumph and, given
    that he did not so badly damage the harmony at the team, would feel
    stronger than ever going into his second season with the team. As
    talented as Hamilton was from the start of his career, he was
    error-prone in the early days and was definitely beatable by a
    fully-focused Alonso in the same car. Talk to anyone from McLaren at the
    time and they will tell you most believed Alonso to be the better driver
    at that stage of their respective careers -- the tragedy was that he
    didn't listen and instead got caught up in his own paranoia about the team.

    It's not only the boyhood dream of being a McLaren champion that Alonso
    would have achieved here. Although he made mistakes after the original McLaren stint, the events of 2007 left a stain on Alonso's character for
    the rest of his career. His falling out with Ron Dennis -- and the fact
    he tried to blackmail his boss with incriminating emails from Spygate -- sowed the seeds of the reputation that Alonso was a political animal, a
    man capable of pulling a team apart from within. It's the perception
    which stopped Mercedes boss Toto Wolff from picking up the phone and
    calling Alonso after Nico Rosberg's sudden retirement in 2016.

    Here, that legacy is non-existent. Sure, he could be competitive and
    fiery at times, but his four straight championships would echo louder
    than any negative voices in the paddock.

    What about Lewis?

    How different would Lewis Hamilton's reputation have been early in his
    career without a championship to his name? ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/Getty Images Hamilton was the man who emerged from the train-wreck of 2007 as
    McLaren's next world champion. But here we are suggesting Alonso, at the height of his powers, is his teammate -- a tough proposition for any
    rookie driver, no matter how talented. What followed 2008 for Hamilton
    was a period of erratic form which lasted several years. He squandered
    the championship with several high profile errors in 2010 before
    enduring a crash-riddled 2011 campaign.

    Here, he would have gone through that hardship without a championship to
    his name. He would have been a phenomenal talent who was just unable to
    get it done. Hamilton has since told ESPN he's not sure how he would
    have recovered mentally without winning the title in 2008 -- how would
    he have coped going in to 2009 having seen two championships go to the
    man driving the other car?

    Without that 2008 championship under his belt, can we be sure it would
    have been Hamilton having the poolside chat with Niki Lauda in the
    middle of the 2012 season, talking about Mercedes' ambitious V6 turbo project? Lauda may not have believed Hamilton was the person to lead it
    if he was simply a man who had failed to convert his talent into championships. It's fascinating to wonder how different his reputation
    would have been in the sport without that 2008 title and, by extension,
    how different Mercedes' recent past would look. We explore a few more of these in Scenario 2 below.

    Of course, we must consider how different the rest of F1 would be had
    things gone better for Alonso and McLaren in this period...

    Does 'Crashgate' still happen?
    In real life, Alonso was indirectly involved in a controversial incident
    in 2008. Having gone back to Renault he was in an uncompetitive car, a
    shadow of the team he had left just a year earlier. One of his two wins
    from that season would be controversial -- in Singapore, he pitted from
    low down the order shortly before teammate Nelson Piquet Jr spun and
    crashed at Turn 17. His stranded car prompted a Safety Car and promoted Alonso to the lead of the pack.

    What originally looked like a lucky coincidence turned out to have been
    much more than that. The following year, Piquet confessed he had been
    ordered to crash by team boss Flavio Briatore and technical director Pat Symonds in order to influence the result and help Alonso win. The
    following year Renault was punished and left the sport under a cloud at
    the end of 2009, while Briatore and Symonds received bans. Alonso's involvement has always been a controversial topic. He clearly benefited
    from the conspiracy but has never been implicated in it. Whether or not
    the Spaniard knew -- many have said he should have been suspicious about
    the amount of fuel put in his car before the race, which required a
    Safety Car at exactly the moment Piquet crashed to succeed -- his
    stature in the team at this point cannot be underplayed.

    Renault's board of directors were desperate for a win in 2008 -- the
    glory days of Alonso's original stint were long gone. But it's hard to imagine the team would have lured a star driver to drive its car had
    Alonso stayed at McLaren. Jenson Button might have been an option after
    a torrid year at Honda, but this was before his reputation was enhanced
    by winning the title in 2009. It's likely Nelson Piquet would have been partnered by Button or Giancarlo Fisichella. Both quick in their own
    right, but neither carrying the star power of Alonso in 2008. This begs
    the question, would Briatore -- Alonso's long-time manager -- have
    carried out such a ploy without someone like Alonso at the team?

    If he had, and the desire to win had still prompted Briatore and
    Symonds' moment of madness, the nature of the championship fight could
    have been drastically different in this version of events and its not
    beyond the realms of possibility that Renault's conspiracy actually hurt Alonso's championship chances instead of Felipe Massa's. In real life,
    Massa pitted from the lead of the race and left the box with his fuel
    hose still attached -- the Brazilian still cites it as the moment that
    cost him that year's title -- but the perpetrators would have had a fear
    of the unknown beforehand. Perhaps Briatore would have been dissuaded
    from going through with the plan if he felt it had the potential to hurt Alonso's title bid.

    No title for the Iceman

    Does Kimi Raikkonen have a championship in this alternate universe --
    and does he even care? Patrik Lundin/Getty Images
    Hamilton is not the only superstar in this timeline lacking championship pedigree. Alonso's title win in 2007 would have robbed Kimi Raikkonen of
    his only career triumph -- how his career would have developed from
    there is a fascinating prospect. Even if he has admitted lacking
    motivation, would he have still taken a sabbatical without a
    championship to his name? Would he have cultivated the same cult status
    he enjoys today? Unlike Hamilton, it's hard to see Raikkonen gaining
    many opportunities afterwards to win the title his talent deserved.

    Back to normality?
    After winning two titles, it's unlikely Alonso would have tolerated
    McLaren's disappointing 2009 campaign. The team massively underestimated
    the regulation change of that year, which famously saw Brawn GP rise
    from the ashes to win. In the final year of his deal, Alonso's
    competitive fire would have soon had him looking elsewhere for the next
    car to win his fifth title.

    This leaves a few options on the table. The most obvious is that he
    follows this reality and goes to Ferrari for 2010, albeit as a four-time world champion instead of a man who had spent two years in the
    wilderness at Renault. But would Ross Brawn have convinced him to join
    the Mercedes team which took over the 2009 world champions? Alonso would
    have just won two world titles with a Mercedes-powered car and may have
    felt a growing attatchment to the brand. The Spaniard always seemed
    destined for Ferrari at one point in his career but he may have viewed
    the next chapter of his career very differently were he not making up
    for lost time...

    Scenario 2: Alonso joins Red Bull in 2008

    Vladimir Rys Photography via Getty Images
    This is one of the more interesting scenarios on this list, not least
    because it very nearly happened. After it became clear Alonso and
    McLaren could no longer continue beyond the end of 2007, the Spaniard
    had two options on the table for 2008. One was to return to Renault
    (which is exactly what he did) but the second was to take a punt on the emerging force in Formula One at the time: Red Bull.

    In late 2007 Red Bull hadn't won a grand prix, but it had been slowly amassing a team to take on the F1 establishment. Adrian Newey had joined
    in 2006 and by this time he had started to get the pieces of the puzzle
    in place to turn Red Bull into the world beaters we saw between 2010 and 2013. Alonso was at the top of Red Bull's driver wish-list but, under
    the management of Briatore, passed up the offer and instead returned to Renault.

    Getting in on the ground floor
    Had he joined Red Bull, he may not have scored the two wins he achieved
    for Renault in 2008 but surely would have seen the promising signs from
    the 2009 wind tunnel models.

    Paired with his good mate Mark Webber in his first year, there would
    have been an extended honeymoon period and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he would have secured a one-off win -- after all,
    Vettel took an almost identical car painted in Toro Rosso colours to
    victory in Monza that year. But it's more likely he would have ended up alongside David Coulthard for a single season in 2008. As Webber was
    also under the management of Briatore at the time, the Australian would probably have been used as a pawn to fill the gap at Renault, giving
    Alonso the opportunity to stamp his authority on his new team by going
    up against Coulthard, who was well past his best and in the final year
    of his career.

    But 2009 is when this scenario gets really interesting. Red Bull missed
    the double-diffuser trick at the start of the season, allowing Brawn GP
    to get a march on them in the first half of the year, but Alonso has
    always been quick in less-than-competitive cars. Imagine if he'd grinded
    out better results than Vettel managed in those early races and then had
    the platform to truly challenge Jenson Button for the title towards the
    end of the year.

    The Red Bull was the fastest car on the grid by the end of the 2009
    season and he could have slammed home that advantage to put the brakes
    on the Brawn GP fairy tale in the final few races of the year.
    Potentially that would have added the elusive third championship right
    there and then.

    Fernando verses Sebastian

    Who would have emerged victorious if Sebastian Vettel and Fernando
    Alonso had done battle in identical cars in the early 2010s? Lars
    Baron/Getty Images
    The big question with the Red Bull scenario is how the power dynamic
    would have played out when Vettel joined in 2009. No doubt, Helmut
    Marko, the head of Red Bull's driver programme, would have lobbied hard
    to get the young German the best of everything, but Alonso would have
    already been at the team for a full season before they became teammates.
    If he'd managed to get Red Bull's overall boss Dietrich Mateschitz on
    side, which is likely considering Red Bull went after him at the end of
    2007, he could have been in a strong position within the team. It would
    have created another fascinating power dynamic behind closed doors,
    giving Alonso another shot at the scenario he had faced with Hamilton at McLaren.

    Surely the Spaniard would have learned from the experience at McLaren,
    and given Vettel's propensity for errors early in his Red Bull career,
    it's likely Alonso would have got the better of him in 2010. Vettel's confidence may have taken a knock at that stage, but with Marko behind
    him and the blown-diffuser cars he loved so much coming on stream in
    2011, it's possible he would have taken a title off Alonso in their
    third year together.

    That would have created a tense situation at the team ahead of 2012 -- a season in which blown diffusers were banned and Red Bull initially lost ground to its opposition. In that scenario you'd have to say Alonso
    would have come out on top again, but if you thought there were politics
    at play in 2010 between Webber and Vettel at Red Bull, just imagine the scenario that would have unfolded with Alonso involved! There's no
    telling whether such a partnership would have survived through to 2013,
    but you can guarantee Alonso would have come away from Red Bull with at
    least two more championships than he had from the same period with
    Ferrari -- and Vettel would have two less.

    Even if Alonso did stay until the end of 2013 and even if he came away
    with four world championships between 2010 and 2013, it's unlikely he
    would have had the appetite to remain at Red Bull when he learned of Renault's power deficit in 2014. That creates the question of whether
    he, rather than Vettel, move to Ferrari in 2015 and whether he, rather
    than Vettel, would have been in a position to challenge Hamilton for the title over these past two years.

    Alonso clearly had a strong desire to go to Ferrari and it's hard to
    imagine him going anywhere else after a long stint at Red Bull. Mercedes would have still taken Hamilton on from McLaren in 2013, but perhaps
    Alonso would have been the right man to challenge the Silver Arrows in
    2017 and 2018.

    But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's first look at how Alonso
    moving to Red Bull in 2008 would have impacted on the rest of the driver market from that point until 2014...

    An altered landscape
    Sticking with the assumption that Webber would have gone to Renault in
    2008, again there is the question of whether the Singapore 'Crashgate' scandal would have happened. Webber has always been keen to win races
    fair and square and it's hard to believe he would have gone along with
    what was essentially race-fixing. Would the absence of 'Crashgate' have
    kept Renault in the sport beyond 2009? That's almost impossible to say
    given the impact of the worldwide financial crash during the same
    period, but it certainly would have allowed the French manufacturer to
    leave with more dignity at the end of 2009.

    This Red Bull scenario also rules out Alonso going to Ferrari in 2010,
    which means Kimi Raikkonen would likely have stayed on alongside Felipe
    Massa for the final year of his contract. If you want to get really outlandish, it also raises the possibility of Michael Schumacher
    rejoining his old team rather than Mercedes in 2010 if Ferrari was
    intent on getting rid of Raikkonen. Schumacher initially wanted to make
    his F1 return in 2009 in place of the injured Massa but was prevented
    from doing so because of a neck injury sustained in a motorbike accident earlier that year. Without Alonso on the horizon, perhaps Ferrari would
    have welcomed Schumacher back in 2010 in a race-winning car!

    Of course, it still would have required paying off Raikkonen or ditching Massa. With Raikkonen there is a question of whether Ferrari would have wanted to do that to bring back the man Raikkonen replaced in in the
    first place in 2007. With Massa it would have meant sacking a guy who
    nearly died in the team's car several months earlier. Both are
    possibilities, but with the Ross Brawn connection at Mercedes, it is
    more likely Schumacher would have gone there and Raikkonen would have
    stayed at Ferrari.

    A lifeline for Bobby K?

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    Alonso's absence at Ferrari would have created an opening for Robert
    Kubica a bit further down the line. If Raikkonen had struggled in 2010
    then it's entirely believable that he would have left the team for his sabbatical at the end of that year and Kubica would have been next in
    line to make his pre-arranged switch a year early and, significantly,
    before his rally crash in 2011. A tighter Ferrari contract may have
    prevented him from taking part in the 2011 Ronde Di Andora, and perhaps
    he would have been one of Alonso's main threats in the period between
    2011 and 2013. Thereafter, a Kubica/Alonso partnership at Ferrari could
    have offered a genuine threat to Mercedes over 2017 and 2018, resulting
    in Hamilton still being stuck on three titles while Alonso, assuming he
    won four at Red Bull, possibly celebrating his record-breaking eighth.

    Pure fantasy? Probably. But it makes you think ...

    Scenario 3: He still implodes at McLaren in 2007, but the near-misses
    which followed Ferrari are championships

    Fernando Alonso's 2010 championship crumbled at the final race, when he
    got stuck behind Renault's Vitaly Petrov at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
    Clive Mason/Getty Images
    In this timeline, everything up until the end of 2009 happened as it did
    in real life. Alonso's politicking at McLaren forces him to spend two
    years in the wilderness at Renault before he secures a dream move to
    Ferrari for the 2010 campaign.

    Then, reality changes. After seeing Alonso wrestle back a 47-point
    deficit late in the season and snatch the championship lead in Korea,
    Ferrari keeps its head at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and opts against the calamitous pit-stop call which cost him that year's title and handed it
    to Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel. Two years later he follows it up with
    the crowning achievement of his career, a remarkable victory over Vettel
    in the 2012 championship despite spending much of the year without the quickest car at his disposal -- in reality, he narrowly lost the title
    at that year's season finale.

    Patience is a virtue
    By 2014 in real life, Alonso's patience with Ferrari had worn thin. He
    had failed to win two championships and, having seen how far off the
    pace it was with the new V6 turbo regulations, had lost faith that he
    would ever win one with the Italian team. Here, his 2010 and 2012 titles
    have given him positive memories and belief in Ferrari's ability to win
    and, most importantly, have made him a Maranello legend. The nature of
    his 2012 win, especially, where he stayed in contention throughout the
    year with a car nowhere near fastest on the grid, would have elevated
    his reputation into the stratosphere.

    Would the team have sought out the services of Vettel in 2014 in this scenario? We don't think so, because of the impact those wins had on the career of another man.

    Popular team boss Stefano Domenicali became collateral damage in 2014
    when Ferrari's failure to master the V6 turbo era became apparent. His replacement, short-lived team principal Matteo Mattiaci, instantly
    clashed with Alonso and began the courtship of Vettel. Without this
    split, Domenicali could have pointed to the two world championship shiny trophies in Alonso's cabinet to convince him that better times were just around the corner. In reality, signs of a revival started to emerge in
    2015 so it would not have taken long for Alonso to see the light at the
    end of the tunnel.

    Vettel vs Ricciardo, again

    Sebastian Vettel struggled to match Daniel Ricciardo when the Australian
    was promoted to be his teammate at Red Bull in 2014. Mark Thompson/Getty Images
    Were the path to Ferrari blocked by Alonso, Vettel's career choices from
    here are fascinating to consider. In this timeline he would have won two dominant titles in 2011 and 2013, leading to accusations he can only win
    with the right car. Don't believe me? Consider the fact Vettel already
    got those criticisms with the four he won at the start of the decade.
    This perception would have been emboldened by Daniel Ricciardo's
    breakthrough year in 2014, which made a struggling Vettel look pretty ordinary in the new breed of F1 car. Its easy to imagine Vettel would
    have still been looking for a way out in 2014.

    He may still have gone to Ferrari, although its hard to imagine Alonso allowing this move to happen while he was there, but two obvious career
    paths open up here. One is that his good friend Toto Wolff secures his services at Mercedes in 2015 when there was uncertainty about Nico
    Rosberg's future -- Vettel's German heritage and championship pedigree
    would have been manna from heaven for Mercedes' Stuggart board.

    The other is that Vettel took Alonso's actual path to McLaren and joined
    its doomed project with Honda. But, how doomed would it have been
    without Alonso there?

    McLaren believes in Honda
    Had Alonso kept his overalls red instead of switching to McLaren in
    2015, there is an interesting alternative reality to consider for the
    Woking team. Honda still would have made a mess of its first V6 turbo
    engine that year but if it hadn't gone after Vettel it's likely the team would have stuck with young Kevin Magnussen -- who was unceremoniously dropped for Alonso after his rookie season -- alongside Button.

    While frustration in those early days was high, it's unlikely any other driver would have made as much negative noise as Alonso did in the same
    era. Button held a genuine affinity for Honda which did not seem to wane
    in the same way Alonso's did, while Magnussen would have been in the
    early days of his career and not in a position to rock the boat too
    much. It's hard to imagine either of those men opening up their radio
    channel at Honda's home race, the Japanese Grand Prix, to publicly
    rebuke its engine by comparing it to GP2 -- F1's main feeder series --
    as Alonso infamously did in the first year of the partnership.

    New boss Zak Brown has moved mountains to keep Alonso happy -- ditching
    Honda was part of that. Whether or not Brown took over here, its not
    crazy to suggest McLaren and Honda could have tiptoed through their differences more easily. Honda would eventually make the progress we've
    seen this year with Toro Rosso and now, instead of talking up the
    potential of Red Bull-Honda, we'd be talking about 2019 as the year the McLaren-Honda project finally lived up to its potential.

    Side note: What happens to Stoffel Vandoorne here if Magnussen stayed
    with McLaren? Released from the McLaren project, maybe he found himself
    some competitive machinery after his record-breaking Formula 2
    championship and maintained the hype that accompanied his early career.
    Or does McLaren jettison Button early and stick with its two young
    drivers, entering its big 2019 season with Magnussen and Vandoorne at
    the helm?

    Lewis verses Fernando: Part 2

    Fans have never been treated to another Lewis Hamilton-Fernando Alonso championship fight Sutton Images
    This last one is the most tantalising of the "what might have been" scenarios. Alonso patience with Ferrari would have paid dividends in
    2017 and 2018, with a car suddenly capable of competing for
    championships -- remember, the Spaniard already has four in this
    timeline, two of which came in red. Mercedes' dominance of the V6 turbo
    era has allowed Hamilton to become a three-time champion going in to
    2017 -- adding at least two to the one he won in Alonso's absence in
    2008, presuming he still loses out to Nico Rosberg in 2016.


    Here, we have the prospect of at least two years of fighting between
    arguably the grid's two most talented drivers. Reliability might have
    cost Alonso dearly in 2017 as it did with Vettel, but there are a
    significant amount of people in the paddock who think Alonso would have
    done a better job with Ferrari's superb 2018 challenger than Vettel did
    in real life. Spurred on by the challenge of his old teammate, the
    improved, mature Hamilton, Alonso would have surely relished this contest.

    What all this means is simple: in this universe, on this weekend,
    instead of bidding Alonso farewell, we would be watching him and
    Hamilton do battle for another world championship. Neither has any plans
    of retiring any time soon and the fight looks set to continue on as a
    trilogy in 2019. It's the championship fight many have dreamed of, but
    we've never had the chance to see again.

    What might have been, indeed...


    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, or maybe not.

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