• Mercedes Fixed VB Win by misfit

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 07:20:21 2019
    On 10/14/2019 5:55 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 15/10/2019 2:48 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    On 14/10/2019 12:06, larkim wrote:
    On Monday, 14 October 2019 10:05:06 UTC+1, Out Cider  wrote:
    CS <crmstone@gmail.com> writes:
    And I do like the new tyre wear graphic.  Wonder how they do that??

    I don't. Mainly because I don't believe it is correct, nor do I believe >>>> that it can be. I don't think tire condition can be counted in
    percents,
    as it is not a single, quantifiable and measurable thing - except in
    video games.

    --
    OutCider

    Agreed in terms of accuracy.  Not sure how they factored differential
    tyre wear for different sides of the car.  If it had any actual data
    behind
    it, it could be useful (e.g. if tyre slip, wheelspin, heat etc
    sensors were
    feeding back to the TV company somehow).  If it's just a straight calc
    that rear right = highest usage, rear left = 90%, front left and right = >>> 70%, and then just apply expected tyre life to that formula then it
    isn't
    especially meaningful, though it does help as an aide memoire when
    watching
    to see where tyre life *might* be expected to be.

    Looked at the graphic again today, and noted that it said 'Insights,
    powered by aws' briefly when it appeared on screen. It seems that aws
    is Amazon Web Services, which led me here:

         <https://aws.amazon.com/f1insights/>

        <https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/formula-one/>

    There's a link to a 10m talk by Ross Brawn:

         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phCSmKjBfEc&feature=youtu.be

    Thanks for the links, interesting.

    Personally I've not got a lot from the AWS on-screen stuff that's been introduced this year (so far). Then again I've been a student of F1 for decades and am capable of keeping a lot of the info about each of the
    leading cars in my head in real time and can tell if a drivers likely to
    be overtaken in pitstops etc. I can tell roughly how good tyres are by knowing compound, stint length, lap times, watching how it corners and
    gets off corners and whether the car's been running in clean air or
    closely following another.

    So I guess most of this stuff is for casual or new F1 fans, to make it
    more accessible to those who haven't seen every race for decades and
    read a bunch of info on the technical side of things.

    What I found interesting from Ross' talk was when he said that they have access to and are feeding the data into AWS that not even individual
    teams have access to 'for the fans'. I assume he means the teams only
    have their own data but AWS is being fed data from all teams.

    Surely then the people that AWS (at least when the machine learning
    matures) is going to benefit most are other teams? I mean if it's as
    good as they're touting then rival teams are going to be able to infer
    things about their competitors that perhaps they didn't already know
    based on what's being displayed in the "F1 Insights" box on the world feed.

    Maybe.

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