• It's over. Liberty is pooched.

    From News@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 11:21:31 2023
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to News on Thu Oct 26 11:41:16 2023
    On 10/26/2023 11:21 AM, News wrote:
    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the
    U.S. peaked?'

    Got to be because Austin isn't attractove for gamblers. . ..

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge.
    Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; knowledge
    without compassion is inhuman. - Victor Weisskopf

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to News on Fri Oct 27 13:29:08 2023
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a >three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Fri Oct 27 10:06:12 2023
    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
    on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.

    Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to News on Fri Oct 27 14:51:01 2023
    News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
    on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.

    Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.


    You’d simply love for them to fail wouldn’t you?

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 27 08:35:37 2023
    last week the magazine cable tv show gp confidential said that apple tv was interested in the tv rights - with liberty leasing them out or something.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Fri Oct 27 11:25:38 2023
    On 10/27/2023 10:51 AM, Sir Tim wrote:
    News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from >>>> last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >>>> peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
    on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.

    Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.


    You’d simply love for them to fail wouldn’t you?



    Not a Liberty/FWONA investor, long or short. Couldn't care less about investment bankers revealed as anything but masters of the universe, or
    even the smartest guys in the room, despite it being their comeuppance.

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to News on Sat Oct 28 11:17:04 2023
    On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.


    Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
    on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.

    Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.

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  • From build@21:1/5 to News on Sat Oct 28 20:38:31 2023
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

    Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
    Three races in the US.
    Analysts have it as a "buy".
    Volumes indicate holders are not selling.

    build

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  • From build@21:1/5 to build on Sat Oct 28 20:45:50 2023
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 2:38:33 PM UTC+11, build wrote:
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
    Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
    Three races in the US.
    Analysts have it as a "buy".
    Volumes indicate holders are not selling.

    build

    Formula One gets upgraded by Citi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYKu7sxNc-E

    build

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to build on Sun Oct 29 21:37:20 2023
    On 29/10/2023 4:38 pm, build wrote:
    On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

    Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
    Three races in the US.
    Analysts have it as a "buy".
    Volumes indicate holders are not selling.

    build

    Stock Market ? Bit of a gamble ....

    geoff

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Mon Oct 30 09:22:06 2023
    On 10/28/2023 6:17 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from >>>> last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >>>> peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.

    Read the link: 'usgp tv ratings fall for third consecutive year'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to News on Mon Oct 30 14:02:55 2023
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:22:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    On 10/28/2023 6:17 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a >>>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from >>>>> last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >>>>> peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
    Attendance in 2021 was 400K
    Attendance in 2022 was 440K
    Attendance in 2023 was 432K

    Hardly something for them to get worried about.


    Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

    Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.

    Read the link: 'usgp tv ratings fall for third consecutive year'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

    Read your own post to which I replied.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Mon Oct 30 10:06:04 2023
    On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
    dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer able
    to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial interruptions.


    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to News on Tue Oct 31 14:24:59 2023
    On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:
    On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
    dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer able
    to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial interruptions.

    Artifical interuptions ?

    Maybe just a USA thing. Going the same way as American Football ? :-0<<<

    geoff

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  • From News@21:1/5 to geoff on Tue Oct 31 09:01:47 2023
    On 10/30/2023 9:24 PM, geoff wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:
    On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
    three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
    peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/


    Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
    dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer
    able to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial
    interruptions.

    Artifical interuptions ?


    Unnecessary red flags and safety cars.

    The current state of F1 'spectacle.'


    Maybe just a USA thing. Going the same way as American Football ? :-0<<<

    geoff

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to News on Tue Oct 31 10:21:16 2023
    On 10/31/2023 9:01 AM, News wrote:
    On 10/30/2023 9:24 PM, geoff wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:

    F1 is no longer
    able to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial
    interruptions.

    Artifical interuptions ?

    Unnecessary red flags and safety cars.

    Tecpro barriers and crane-free runoff areas are for wimps.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge.
    Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; knowledge
    without compassion is inhuman. - Victor Weisskopf

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to News on Fri Nov 3 09:52:38 2023
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
    this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a >three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
    last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

    This drop is withing the statistical error, so not significant.
    Nothing to be worried about.
    The other thing is how to make races more interesting, i.e. teams to
    be more equal in performance. Dominance of one team is boring, so they
    have to do somenthing about it.

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  • From build@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Sun Nov 5 13:55:29 2023
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC+11, Yazoo wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <> wrote:
    'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for >this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a >three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from >last year's record 440,000.

    So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S. >peaked?'

    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
    This drop is withing the statistical error, so not significant.
    Nothing to be worried about.
    The other thing is how to make races more interesting, i.e. teams to
    be more equal in performance. Dominance of one team is boring, so they
    have to do somenthing about it.

    There's always a Ford Fiesta series or Nascar. Might suit you better.

    build

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 08:45:18 2023
    On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 13:55:29 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    ..

    There's always a Ford Fiesta series or Nascar. Might suit you better.

    build


    Smelling Max's supporter here.
    Your comment is not so funny. Try harder.

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