Ah, finally Spa time!
XYXPDQ <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Yes, always a highlight of the season.
Ah, finally Spa time!
Ah, finally Spa time!
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT), XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
My favorite of the year. It's on my bucket list to get there someday.
JP <jpayne543@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:35:15 AM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Spa, Monza, Monaco, and COTA are the only places that really interest me
anymore. I wish they could run at Watkins Glen again. I have many great
memories (and dead brain cells) from the 70s there.
I would add Suzuka to your list (and probably leave Monaco off it).
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:35:15 AM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Spa, Monza, Monaco, and COTA are the only places that really interest me anymore. I wish they could run at Watkins Glen again. I have many great memories (and dead brain cells) from the 70s there.
JP <jpayne543@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:35:15 AM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Spa, Monza, Monaco, and COTA are the only places that really interest me
anymore. I wish they could run at Watkins Glen again. I have many great
memories (and dead brain cells) from the 70s there.
I would add Suzuka to your list (and probably leave Monaco off it).
On 27/07/2023 7:42 am, Sir Tim wrote:
JP <jpayne543@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:35:15 AM UTC-4, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Spa, Monza, Monaco, and COTA are the only places that really interest me >>> anymore. I wish they could run at Watkins Glen again. I have many great
memories (and dead brain cells) from the 70s there.
I would add Suzuka to your list (and probably leave Monaco off it).
Agreed - though Monaco qualifying is exciting.
Maybe it's time for the Monaco GP to
become a new format, maybe like an
extended qualifying session over (say) two hours (no refueling) with
each car having to do at least forty flying laps (using two compounds)
and their four fastest laps (two from each compound) being added
together for their 'race time'?
Just off the top of my head... I guess you'd have to put a minimum time
on their 'out laps' so they don't unduly influence cars on fast laps.
That could be very interesting, a real challenge for the tacticians. (So
I guess that would rule Ferrari out!)
Ah, finally Spa time!
On 7/25/23 08:35, XYXPDQ wrote:The elevation changes/scenery make it great as far as I'm concerned.
Ah, finally Spa time!Yes, I very much appreciate Spa.
A fair hunk of my liking it comes from the history, and
the fact that many parts of the race track are still
very recognizable to what it was in the 1950's, 1960's and
1970's.
In 2016 we spent 3 weeks in Northern Europe, and I picked
the timing to match up with a Track Day at Spa.
I did a fair amount of research ahead of time. Google Maps,
and satellite view, and street view all allowed exploring of
parts of the old complete circuit. I arrived early the day
before to check out the old areas.
It seemed special to me to drive over the same areas like
Fangio, Moss, and Jim Clark drove.
Oh, yes, it frequently rains there.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 1:12:38 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
On 7/25/23 08:35, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!Yes, I very much appreciate Spa.
A fair hunk of my liking it comes from the history, and
the fact that many parts of the race track are still
very recognizable to what it was in the 1950's, 1960's and
1970's.
In 2016 we spent 3 weeks in Northern Europe, and I picked
the timing to match up with a Track Day at Spa.
I did a fair amount of research ahead of time. Google Maps,
and satellite view, and street view all allowed exploring of
parts of the old complete circuit. I arrived early the day
before to check out the old areas.
It seemed special to me to drive over the same areas like
Fangio, Moss, and Jim Clark drove.
Oh, yes, it frequently rains there.
The elevation changes/scenery make it great as far as I'm concerned.
The rain just adds to the challenge.
Dan
Ah, finally Spa time!
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:35:15 AM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!Friday qualifying was fantastic!
On 2023-07-25 19:34, fleemos876 wrote:
It's on my bucket list to get there someday.
It's on my bucket list to race there someday.
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:11:45 PM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:35:15 AM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!Friday qualifying was fantastic!
The sprint race was a blast. Start seemed odd; they drag the field around behind the safety car on full wets but half the field pits before even crossing the start line and the rest pit at the end of the first.
Top marks to Paistri for a great drive.
On 30/07/2023 10:30 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:11:45 PM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:35:15 AM UTC-7, XYXPDQ wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!Friday qualifying was fantastic!
The sprint race was a blast. Start seemed odd; they drag the field
around behind the safety car on full wets but half the field pits
before even crossing the start line and the rest pit at the end of the
first.
Top marks to Paistri for a great drive.
Yes, surely that implies that whoever made the decision for the 4 formation/safety-car laps was rather inept.
I remember my first time racing in the rain at Seattle and headed
towards turn 1 at speed for the first time in practice and with 3 or 4 Formula Fords about 30-50 yards in front of me, I couldn't see the
turn-in point AT ALL.
Fortunately, it was only practice, and I could just back off.
I also remember following two Formula Fords into turn 1 at Mission in
heavy rain...
...seeing them both edging inward as the lead car tried to prevent the
car chasing him from trying an overtake underbraking.
I lost sight of them in the spray, but was taking the classic racing line...
...when one of the cars emerged from the spray and there was very
quickly exactly one RF89's width of track remaining for my RF89.
When I got back to the paddock, I discovered that all the white paint on
the right side of my right side American Racer tires had been left on
the wall at the outside of turn 1.
I remember my first time racing in the rain at Seattle and headed
towards turn 1 at speed for the first time in practice and with 3 or 4 Formula Fords about 30-50 yards in front of me, I couldn't see the
turn-in point AT ALL.
Fortunately, it was only practice, and I could just back off.
I also remember following two Formula Fords into turn 1 at Mission in
heavy rain...
...seeing them both edging inward as the lead car tried to prevent the
car chasing him from trying an overtake underbraking.
I lost sight of them in the spray, but was taking the classic racing line...
...when one of the cars emerged from the spray and there was very
quickly exactly one RF89's width of track remaining for my RF89.
When I got back to the paddock, I discovered that all the white paint on
the right side of my right side American Racer tires had been left on
the wall at the outside of turn 1.
Excellent race today. That little bit of rain mixed up the tire strategy nicely.
On 2023-07-30 4:23 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
Excellent race today. That little bit of rain mixed up the tire strategy nicely.
I haven't been paying too much attention to the situation with Perez and Red Bull. But I must admit
I assume that being outclassed so soundly by his teammate has to be worrisome for him.
There are teams where one driver consistently beats his teammate: I think of Hamilton and Bottas,
for example. But when you are 22 seconds behind in identical cars, well, it makes me wonder how
long Perez will be with Red Bull. Marko has been fairly short with drivers who didn't seem to be up
to the task in the past.
There is considerable bias in my observations: I cannot find it in me to like Verstappen. Not
anyone I'd like to go for a beer or pizza with. But the man can drive! (Unless Perez is quite
hopeless at driving, which I don;t think for a minute.)
So when I admit that I cannot avoid praising Versteppen's driving skill, that is despite my
antipathy towards him as a person.
On 31/07/2023 10:11 am, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2023-07-30 4:23 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
Excellent race today. That little bit of rain mixed up the tire
strategy nicely.
I haven't been paying too much attention to the situation with Perez
and Red Bull. But I must admit I assume that being outclassed so
soundly by his teammate has to be worrisome for him.
There are teams where one driver consistently beats his teammate: I
think of Hamilton and Bottas, for example. But when you are 22 seconds
behind in identical cars, well, it makes me wonder how long Perez will
be with Red Bull. Marko has been fairly short with drivers who didn't
seem to be up to the task in the past.
There is considerable bias in my observations: I cannot find it in me
to like Verstappen. Not anyone I'd like to go for a beer or pizza
with. But the man can drive! (Unless Perez is quite hopeless at
driving, which I don;t think for a minute.)
So when I admit that I cannot avoid praising Versteppen's driving
skill, that is despite my antipathy towards him as a person.
I've heard it said that Verstappen likes his car to drive a certain way that's different to how most drivers like their cars and that, in recent years RBR have embraced this philosophy on both cars. This has been put forward as the reason nobody else seems to do well in the second car.
I don't know if there's truth to that but I can't deny that the
combination of Max and that RBR car is mighty. I would like to see how
well another top-tier driver does in the other car but RBR don't seem
likely to put anyone in the other car who might upset Max. It seems that their preference is just to have someone who will consistently get
second or third place. That's a fine line to tread.
I'd like to see them put Liam Lawson in it for next year but don't think that's likely as there's a good chance Liam would take too many points
away from Max.
I'd like to see them put Liam Lawson in it for next year but don't think that's likely as there's a
good chance Liam would take too many points away from Max.
Please.. ...just give it up.
XYXPDQ <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, finally Spa time!
Yes, always a highlight of the season.
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see them put Liam Lawson in it for next year but don't think
that's likely as there's a
good chance Liam would take too many points away from Max.
I think you are allowing your patriotism (nationalism?) run away with you a bit Shaun :-)
On 31/07/2023 7:47 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see them put Liam Lawson in it for next year but don't think >>> that's likely as there's a
good chance Liam would take too many points away from Max.
I think you are allowing your patriotism (nationalism?) run away with you a >> bit Shaun :-)
Yeah maybe. ;) That said he's the first driver in the modern era (~50 years, including Japanese
drivers who know the circuit and speak the same language as their teams) to rock up to Super
Formula in Japan and win his maiden race. Out of the 6 races they've had this year he's won 3 and
always finished in the top 5. (However he's not leading the championship, he's in second place by 1
point with 2 races to go.)
He's also the only non-Japanese driver in the top 16 this year (that's including an Alesi who was
in his third year there before he got booted from his seat a race or two ago).
In F2 last year he beat his team-mate Logan Sargeant to finish 3rd in the championship and has been
a Red Bull driver for a few years now.
With all that considered it's not completely out of the question that he might be faster in the RBR
F1 car than Perez and he's only 21...
Oh and he would have won DTM in his maiden year in 2021 if it hadn't been for dirty driving by his
closest competitor in the last race which took him out of contention. He started the race ahead on
points and on pole but finished second in the championship after being 'speared'.
I don't know if there's truth to that but I can't deny that the
combination of Max and that RBR car is mighty. I would like to see how
well another top-tier driver does in the other car but RBR don't seem
likely to put anyone in the other car who might upset Max.
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