• OT - Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 29 15:07:45 2023
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    OT - Is this the most likely wave of the future for motorsports?

    from https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/le-mans-wants-hydrogen-only-top-class-by-2030/10474306/

    Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030
    Le Mans 24 Hours organiser the Automobile Club de l’Ouest has outlined a vision for all cars competing for overall victory to be hydrogen-powered
    by 2030.
    Gary Watkins
    By:
    Gary Watkins
    May 27, 2023, 7:33 AM
    MissionH24 LMPH2G

    ACO president Pierre Fillon stated an intent to progressively introduce
    the new fuel at the centrepiece round of the World Endurance
    Championship between 2026 and the start of the next decade ahead of this weekend’s Fuji 24 Hours in which Toyota is competing with a
    hydrogen-powered Corolla.

    The road map he laid down included two key announcements about the new
    class for hydrogen-powered prototypes, which the ACO has been planning
    since 2018.

    The introduction of a category, which is intended to create machinery
    capable of winning overall from the outset, has been pushed back by a
    year for a second time and is now set for a 2026 debut.

    He also confirmed that combustion-engined cars using hydrogen will be
    allowed to compete along the zero-emissions fuel cell machinery for
    which the class was originally envisaged.

    “In 2026, we will have a hydrogen category at Le Mans at the same level
    as Hypercar,” said Fillon.

    “At Le Mans it's important that we allow manufacturers to test different technologies: it has been the case for 100 years and we want to continue
    to do that.

    “The idea is to introduce H2 category progressively after 2026, and the
    idea in 2030 to have 100% of the top category with hydrogen.”

    Insight: How close is widespread adoption of hydrogen in motorsport?

    Fillon has talked openly since last year about a desire to increase the
    remit of the hydrogen class to incorporate internal combustion engines
    and not just fuel cells, which create electricity via the chemical
    reaction between hydrogen and oxygen.

    “The fuel cell was initially chosen for its potential, which is still relevant,” he said at Fuji on Saturday.



    “Today, the hydrogen internal combustion engine is also presented as a possibility for manufacturers.

    “We are officially announcing that both technologies, fuel cell and
    hydrogen internal combustion engine, will be accepted and authorised for manufacturers wishing to enter the 24 Hours in the hydrogen category.”

    He added that the Balance of Performance would be used to create a level playing field between the different technologies in use in the hydrogen
    class and Hypercar from 2026.

    There was no comment on whether the hydrogen category will remain a
    one-make chassis formula.

    The original intent was that manufacturers taking part would only
    produce the fuel cell of the car.

    The one-make chassis was announced as a joint-venture between Red Bull
    Advanced Technology and French constructor ORECA, while the Franco-Swiss GreenGT organisation would supply the electric motors.

    Koji Sato, president of reigning WEC champion Toyota, reacted
    enthusiastically to the announcement from the ACO.

    “Today’s announcement is a very significant one, and we are very
    positive about it,” he said.

    “We’re not ready to make any specific announcements of our own today,
    but I hope that in the near future we can make a good announcement with
    smiles on our faces.”



    Toyota has been racing a car known as the Corolla H2 Concept since 2021.

    A new version of the car introduced for this year is the first to run
    with the fuel stored in liquid rather than gaseous form.

    The ACO has also been experimenting with hydrogen power in fuel cell
    form. It launched its MissionH24 initiative in 2018 together with GreenGT.

    Two versions of a fuel cell prototype have been built by H24 based on an
    ADESS LMP3 chassis.

    The initial iteration of the car, known as the LMPH2G, first appeared in
    a practice session for the Michelin-sponsored Le Mans Cup on the bill of
    the ACO-run European Le Mans Series in 2019.

    The race programme of the second car, simply called the H24, took in the
    Road to Le Mans support event at last year’s 24 Hours.




    Top 10: Ranking the greatest cars never to win Le Mans

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 30 13:04:43 2023
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    On 5/30/23 00:07, a425couple wrote:
    OT - Is this the most likely wave of the future for motorsports?

    from https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/le-mans-wants-hydrogen-only-top-class-by-2030/10474306/

    Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030
    Le Mans 24 Hours organiser the Automobile Club de l’Ouest has outlined a vision for all cars competing for overall victory to be hydrogen-powered
    by 2030.
    Gary Watkins
    By:
    Gary Watkins
    May 27, 2023, 7:33 AM
    MissionH24 LMPH2G

    ACO president Pierre Fillon stated an intent to progressively introduce
    the new fuel at the centrepiece round of the World Endurance
    Championship between 2026 and the start of the next decade ahead of this weekend’s Fuji 24 Hours in which Toyota is competing with a hydrogen-powered Corolla.

    The road map he laid down included two key announcements about the new
    class for hydrogen-powered prototypes, which the ACO has been planning
    since 2018.

    The introduction of a category, which is intended to create machinery
    capable of winning overall from the outset, has been pushed back by a
    year for a second time and is now set for a 2026 debut.

    He also confirmed that combustion-engined cars using hydrogen will be
    allowed to compete along the zero-emissions fuel cell machinery for
    which the class was originally envisaged.

    “In 2026, we will have a hydrogen category at Le Mans at the same level
    as Hypercar,” said Fillon.

    “At Le Mans it's important that we allow manufacturers to test different technologies: it has been the case for 100 years and we want to continue
    to do that.

    “The idea is to introduce H2 category progressively after 2026, and the idea in 2030 to have 100% of the top category with hydrogen.”

    Insight: How close is widespread adoption of hydrogen in motorsport?

    Fillon has talked openly since last year about a desire to increase the
    remit of the hydrogen class to incorporate internal combustion engines
    and not just fuel cells, which create electricity via the chemical
    reaction between hydrogen and oxygen.

    “The fuel cell was initially chosen for its potential, which is still relevant,” he said at Fuji on Saturday.



    “Today, the hydrogen internal combustion engine is also presented as a possibility for manufacturers.

    “We are officially announcing that both technologies, fuel cell and hydrogen internal combustion engine, will be accepted and authorised for manufacturers wishing to enter the 24 Hours in the hydrogen category.”

    He added that the Balance of Performance would be used to create a level playing field between the different technologies in use in the hydrogen
    class and Hypercar from 2026.

    There was no comment on whether the hydrogen category will remain a
    one-make chassis formula.

    The original intent was that manufacturers taking part would only
    produce the fuel cell of the car.

    The one-make chassis was announced as a joint-venture between Red Bull Advanced Technology and French constructor ORECA, while the Franco-Swiss GreenGT organisation would supply the electric motors.

    Koji Sato, president of reigning WEC champion Toyota, reacted enthusiastically to the announcement from the ACO.

    “Today’s announcement is a very significant one, and we are very
    positive about it,” he said.

    “We’re not ready to make any specific announcements of our own today,
    but I hope that in the near future we can make a good announcement with smiles on our faces.”



    Toyota has been racing a car known as the Corolla H2 Concept since 2021.

    A new version of the car introduced for this year is the first to run
    with the fuel stored in liquid rather than gaseous form.

    The ACO has also been experimenting with hydrogen power in fuel cell
    form. It launched its MissionH24 initiative in 2018 together with GreenGT.

    Two versions of a fuel cell prototype have been built by H24 based on an ADESS LMP3 chassis.

    The initial iteration of the car, known as the LMPH2G, first appeared in
    a practice session for the Michelin-sponsored Le Mans Cup on the bill of
    the ACO-run European Le Mans Series in 2019.

    The race programme of the second car, simply called the H24, took in the
    Road to Le Mans support event at last year’s 24 Hours.




    Top 10: Ranking the greatest cars never to win Le Mans



    Well, lets hope they have enough diesel to make hydrogen.

    Edmund

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to Edmund on Tue May 30 06:59:12 2023
    On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 7:04:46 AM UTC-4, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/30/23 00:07, a425couple wrote:
    OT - Is this the most likely wave of the future for motorsports?

    from https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/le-mans-wants-hydrogen-only-top-class-by-2030/10474306/

    Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030
    Le Mans 24 Hours organiser the Automobile Club de l’Ouest has outlined a vision for all cars competing for overall victory to be hydrogen-powered by 2030.
    Gary Watkins
    By:
    Gary Watkins
    May 27, 2023, 7:33 AM
    MissionH24 LMPH2G

    ACO president Pierre Fillon stated an intent to progressively introduce the new fuel at the centrepiece round of the World Endurance
    Championship between 2026 and the start of the next decade ahead of this weekend’s Fuji 24 Hours in which Toyota is competing with a hydrogen-powered Corolla.

    The road map he laid down included two key announcements about the new class for hydrogen-powered prototypes, which the ACO has been planning since 2018.

    The introduction of a category, which is intended to create machinery capable of winning overall from the outset, has been pushed back by a
    year for a second time and is now set for a 2026 debut.

    He also confirmed that combustion-engined cars using hydrogen will be allowed to compete along the zero-emissions fuel cell machinery for
    which the class was originally envisaged.

    “In 2026, we will have a hydrogen category at Le Mans at the same level as Hypercar,” said Fillon.

    “At Le Mans it's important that we allow manufacturers to test different technologies: it has been the case for 100 years and we want to continue to do that.

    “The idea is to introduce H2 category progressively after 2026, and the idea in 2030 to have 100% of the top category with hydrogen.”

    Insight: How close is widespread adoption of hydrogen in motorsport?

    Fillon has talked openly since last year about a desire to increase the remit of the hydrogen class to incorporate internal combustion engines
    and not just fuel cells, which create electricity via the chemical reaction between hydrogen and oxygen.

    “The fuel cell was initially chosen for its potential, which is still relevant,” he said at Fuji on Saturday.



    “Today, the hydrogen internal combustion engine is also presented as a possibility for manufacturers.

    “We are officially announcing that both technologies, fuel cell and hydrogen internal combustion engine, will be accepted and authorised for manufacturers wishing to enter the 24 Hours in the hydrogen category.”

    He added that the Balance of Performance would be used to create a level playing field between the different technologies in use in the hydrogen class and Hypercar from 2026.

    There was no comment on whether the hydrogen category will remain a one-make chassis formula.

    The original intent was that manufacturers taking part would only
    produce the fuel cell of the car.

    The one-make chassis was announced as a joint-venture between Red Bull Advanced Technology and French constructor ORECA, while the Franco-Swiss GreenGT organisation would supply the electric motors.

    Koji Sato, president of reigning WEC champion Toyota, reacted enthusiastically to the announcement from the ACO.

    “Today’s announcement is a very significant one, and we are very positive about it,” he said.

    “We’re not ready to make any specific announcements of our own today, but I hope that in the near future we can make a good announcement with smiles on our faces.”



    Toyota has been racing a car known as the Corolla H2 Concept since 2021.

    A new version of the car introduced for this year is the first to run
    with the fuel stored in liquid rather than gaseous form.

    The ACO has also been experimenting with hydrogen power in fuel cell
    form. It launched its MissionH24 initiative in 2018 together with GreenGT.

    Two versions of a fuel cell prototype have been built by H24 based on an ADESS LMP3 chassis.

    The initial iteration of the car, known as the LMPH2G, first appeared in
    a practice session for the Michelin-sponsored Le Mans Cup on the bill of the ACO-run European Le Mans Series in 2019.

    The race programme of the second car, simply called the H24, took in the Road to Le Mans support event at last year’s 24 Hours.




    Top 10: Ranking the greatest cars never to win Le Mans



    Well, lets hope they have enough diesel to make hydrogen.

    Edmund
    Yeah, you need fossil fuel to make hydrogen. Most people also need it to charge their plug-in electric vehicles.

    Dan

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Tue May 30 08:55:16 2023
    On 2023-05-30 06:59, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 7:04:46 AM UTC-4, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/30/23 00:07, a425couple wrote:
    OT - Is this the most likely wave of the future for motorsports?

    from
    https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/le-mans-wants-hydrogen-only-top-class-by-2030/10474306/



    Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030
    Le Mans 24 Hours organiser the Automobile Club de l’Ouest has
    outlined a vision for all cars competing for overall victory to
    be hydrogen-powered by 2030. Gary Watkins By: Gary Watkins May
    27, 2023, 7:33 AM MissionH24 LMPH2G

    ACO president Pierre Fillon stated an intent to progressively
    introduce the new fuel at the centrepiece round of the World
    Endurance Championship between 2026 and the start of the next
    decade ahead of this weekend’s Fuji 24 Hours in which Toyota is
    competing with a hydrogen-powered Corolla.

    The road map he laid down included two key announcements about
    the new class for hydrogen-powered prototypes, which the ACO has
    been planning since 2018.

    The introduction of a category, which is intended to create
    machinery capable of winning overall from the outset, has been
    pushed back by a year for a second time and is now set for a 2026
    debut.

    He also confirmed that combustion-engined cars using hydrogen
    will be allowed to compete along the zero-emissions fuel cell
    machinery for which the class was originally envisaged.

    “In 2026, we will have a hydrogen category at Le Mans at the same
    level as Hypercar,” said Fillon.

    “At Le Mans it's important that we allow manufacturers to test
    different technologies: it has been the case for 100 years and we
    want to continue to do that.

    “The idea is to introduce H2 category progressively after 2026,
    and the idea in 2030 to have 100% of the top category with
    hydrogen.”

    Insight: How close is widespread adoption of hydrogen in
    motorsport?

    Fillon has talked openly since last year about a desire to
    increase the remit of the hydrogen class to incorporate internal
    combustion engines and not just fuel cells, which create
    electricity via the chemical reaction between hydrogen and
    oxygen.

    “The fuel cell was initially chosen for its potential, which is
    still relevant,” he said at Fuji on Saturday.



    “Today, the hydrogen internal combustion engine is also presented
    as a possibility for manufacturers.

    “We are officially announcing that both technologies, fuel cell
    and hydrogen internal combustion engine, will be accepted and
    authorised for manufacturers wishing to enter the 24 Hours in the
    hydrogen category.”

    He added that the Balance of Performance would be used to create
    a level playing field between the different technologies in use
    in the hydrogen class and Hypercar from 2026.

    There was no comment on whether the hydrogen category will remain
    a one-make chassis formula.

    The original intent was that manufacturers taking part would
    only produce the fuel cell of the car.

    The one-make chassis was announced as a joint-venture between Red
    Bull Advanced Technology and French constructor ORECA, while the
    Franco-Swiss GreenGT organisation would supply the electric
    motors.

    Koji Sato, president of reigning WEC champion Toyota, reacted
    enthusiastically to the announcement from the ACO.

    “Today’s announcement is a very significant one, and we are very
    positive about it,” he said.

    “We’re not ready to make any specific announcements of our own
    today, but I hope that in the near future we can make a good
    announcement with smiles on our faces.”



    Toyota has been racing a car known as the Corolla H2 Concept
    since 2021.

    A new version of the car introduced for this year is the first to
    run with the fuel stored in liquid rather than gaseous form.

    The ACO has also been experimenting with hydrogen power in fuel
    cell form. It launched its MissionH24 initiative in 2018 together
    with GreenGT.

    Two versions of a fuel cell prototype have been built by H24
    based on an ADESS LMP3 chassis.

    The initial iteration of the car, known as the LMPH2G, first
    appeared in a practice session for the Michelin-sponsored Le Mans
    Cup on the bill of the ACO-run European Le Mans Series in 2019.

    The race programme of the second car, simply called the H24, took
    in the Road to Le Mans support event at last year’s 24 Hours.




    Top 10: Ranking the greatest cars never to win Le Mans



    Well, lets hope they have enough diesel to make hydrogen.

    Edmund
    Yeah, you need fossil fuel to make hydrogen. Most people also need it
    to charge their plug-in electric vehicles.

    Dan


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    And no one could possibly go 100mph without dying.

    Etc.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 30 12:13:41 2023
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    On 5/29/2023 6:07 PM, a425couple wrote:
    OT - Is this the most likely wave of the future for motorsports?

    from https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/le-mans-wants-hydrogen-only-top-class-by-2030/10474306/

    Le Mans wants hydrogen-only top class by 2030


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