• **2023 Pool** Race 3, Australia GP

    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 09:03:34 2023
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position:

    P1:
    P2:
    P3:

    There is a web page here where you can see the points/predictions as
    they stand as well as looking at past competitions/scoring systems:

    http://www.conmy.co.uk/f1/f1.cgi

    Track (Melbourne) 31/03/2023 11:30 AEDT
    Austin 30/03/2023 19:30 CDT
    West Coast USA 30/03/2023 17:30 PDT
    East Coast USA 30/03/2023 20:30 EDT
    Ireland/Portugal/UK 31/03/2023 01:30 BST
    Central Europe 31/03/2023 02:30 CEST
    Most of Arabia 31/03/2023 03:30 AST
    Oman/UAE 31/03/2023 04:30 GST
    China 31/03/2023 08:30 CST
    Japan/Korea 31/03/2023 09:30 JST
    Perth 31/03/2023 08:30 AWST
    Adelaide/Darwin 31/03/2023 11:00 ACDT Melbourne/Canberra/Sydney 31/03/2023 11:30 AEDT
    New Zealand 31/03/2023 13:30 NZDT
    Ukraine 31/03/2023 03:30 MSK

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 09:04:21 2023
    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

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  • From Sreekumar A@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 15:14:09 2023
    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    Sreekumar

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 09:58:42 2023
    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: LEC
    P3: RUS

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Mar 20 14:14:58 2023
    On 3/20/23 02:03, Mark wrote:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.


    a425couple predicts

    Pole position: VER
    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue Mar 21 06:20:58 2023
    On 3/20/2023 04:03, Mark wrote:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position:

    P1:
    P2:
    P3:


    Pole: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 23 22:15:46 2023
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position: VER
    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Mar 27 08:21:09 2023
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position:

    P1:
    P2:
    P3:

    I am waiting on:

    ceg
    JohnM
    Ar
    Mark Jackson
    D Munz
    Cristhian Morales
    Jimbo
    Sir Tim
    Martin Harran
    EB5AGV
    durian
    Alan Baker
    Shaun
    RzR

    I have:

    Entrant Pole 1 2 3
    Mark VER VER PER ALO
    Phil Carmody VER VER PER ALO
    Darryl Johnson VER VER LEC RUS
    Hornplayer9599 VER VER PER ALO
    Sreekumar A VER VER PER ALO
    a425couple VER VER PER ALO

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Mar 27 13:07:49 2023
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything,
    will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    "Incineration of organic matter within it" is
    a bad feature for an umbrella. - Randall Munroe

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Mon Mar 27 19:19:40 2023
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything,
    will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.


    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    For example, Perhaps Verstappen's ego will irritate somebody so
    badly, they do real physical harm to him?

    But, seriously "VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock." There will
    be plenty of variations on that theme in the next several races.
    But, well, might be a while before any other single choice is
    as likely as that boring prediction.

    I aim to not complain, I did a career in law enforcement and
    did very well investing in rental real estate, so I am quite
    willing to play the odds and be patient.

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 09:54:38 2023
    Pole position: LEC

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 28 13:00:40 2023
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> writes:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something,
    anything, will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.


    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    This coming weekend, or coming weekends generally?
    Generally - Georgyboy getting a better package from the aero guys:
    Fred can't hang on for ever.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 28 12:16:30 2023
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything,
    will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped
    pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or
    5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early
    to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some
    distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...

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  • From D Munz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 08:03:14 2023
    Pole position: LEC

    P1: VER
    P2: ALO
    P3: PER

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 20:30:54 2023
    On 20/03/2023 10:03 pm, Mark wrote:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position: PER

    P1: PER
    P2: ALO
    P3: HAM

    Thanks Mark.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Thu Mar 30 20:28:07 2023
    On 28/03/2023 6:07 am, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything, will suggest that VER VER
    PER ALO isn't a lock.

    Yep. I like a bit of a gamble in the pool. I've never made my selections with my head alone, I
    would find that boring. Otherwise VER VER PER ALO would be a lock-in for at the least the next 5
    races, then re-evaluate if Merc improves.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 07:47:23 2023
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything,
    will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or
    5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early
    to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...


    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current scoring
    system encourages people to be conservative in their selections because
    there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If, for example, I had selected Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I would have got the same points as I
    would have done had I selected the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring system,
    perhaps based on results as the season develops?

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 07:51:35 2023
    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER

    P2: PER

    P3: ALO



    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From EB5AGV@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 00:28:57 2023
    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    Would like to place a Ferrari there, but they seem a bit lost...

    Jose

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  • From John Milner@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 10:27:05 2023
    An unsurprising...

    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    --
    JohnM

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Thu Mar 30 09:10:22 2023
    On 2023-03-30 3:47 AM, Sir Tim wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything, >>>> will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped
    pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or
    5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early
    to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some
    distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...


    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current scoring
    system encourages people to be conservative in their selections because
    there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If, for example, I had selected Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I would have got the same points as I
    would have done had I selected the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring system, perhaps based on results as the season develops?


    I like the idea of this. At the same time, I have no idea how it could
    be implemented. Most odds-based system that I am aware of (mostly sports betting) relies on either the volume of actual bets placed, or
    professional odds makers who rely on their knowledge of all the factors involved. I can't see an odds-maker ever knowing all the details of any
    of the F1 teams.

    Some sort of algorithm that tales into account the finishing positions
    might be workable, but how would it take into account poor or
    non-finishing due to external factors, such as collisions?

    OK, I admit there are a lot of people smarter and more imaginative than
    me, so maybe it is quite do-able....

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  • From durian@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 12:15:30 2023
    On 2023-03-20, Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position: VER
    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

    -peter

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 11:27:34 2023
    Pole position: Verstappen

    P1: Verstappen
    P2: Pérez
    P3: Russell

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
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  • From Ar@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 20:06:06 2023
    On 20/03/2023 09:03, Mark wrote:

    Pole position: Max Verstappen

    P1: Charles Leclerc
    P2: Max Verstappen
    P3: Fernando Alonso

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Thu Mar 30 19:22:27 2023
    Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything, >>>> will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped
    pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or
    5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early
    to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some
    distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...


    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current scoring
    system encourages people to be conservative in their selections because
    there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If, for example, I had selected Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I would have got the same points as I
    would have done had I selected the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring system, perhaps based on results as the season develops?

    I'm happy to implememt any scoring system the group can agree with. Or
    even have parallel scoring systems as a trial. You are right the current sequence of dominance (Merc then RB) has led to a very boring
    competition. All ideas welcomed.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 19:56:52 2023
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    Please post your predictions for the GP in Australia before the start
    of P1 on 31/03/2023. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position:

    P1:
    P2:
    P3:


    I have:

    Entrant Pole 1 2 3
    Mark VER VER PER ALO
    ceg VER VER PER ALO
    JohnM VER VER PER ALO
    Phil Carmody VER VER PER ALO
    Ar VER LEC VER ALO
    Darryl Johnson VER VER LEC RUS
    Hornplayer9599 VER VER PER ALO
    Mark Jackson VER VER PER RUS
    D Munz LEC VER ALO PER
    Cristhian Morales VER VER LEC PER
    Jimbo VER VER SAI HAM
    Sir Tim VER VER PER ALO
    Martin Harran LEC VER PER ALO
    Sreekumar A VER VER PER ALO
    EB5AGV VER VER PER ALO
    durian VER VER PER ALO
    a425couple VER VER PER ALO
    Alan Baker VER VER PER ALO
    Shaun PER PER ALO HAM
    RzR HAM HAM ALO VER

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  • From ceg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 19:49:38 2023
    Posting for ceg...

    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: ALO

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  • From D Munz@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 14:12:06 2023
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:22:31 PM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
    Sir Tim <no_e...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Mark <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
    a425couple <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything, >>>> will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped
    pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or >> 5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early >> to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some
    distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...


    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current scoring system encourages people to be conservative in their selections because there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If, for example, I had selected
    Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I would have got the same points as I would have done had I selected the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring system, perhaps based on results as the season develops?
    I'm happy to implememt any scoring system the group can agree with. Or
    even have parallel scoring systems as a trial. You are right the current sequence of dominance (Merc then RB) has led to a very boring
    competition. All ideas welcomed.

    I kind of like things as they are. It's still early days so we'll see what happens over the season.

    The one change I would like is an embargo of picks later in the season. (For example, they all are revealed at the start of practice.)
    If a few people are close, it becomes more of waiting, watching and matching others to not loose points as opposed to trying to maximize your score.

    But that adds complexity too. This pool has been a great deal of fun for years and part of that is the simple efficiency of the process.

    FWIW
    DLM

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 30 17:27:35 2023
    On 3/30/2023 3:22 PM, Mark wrote:
    Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current
    scoring system encourages people to be conservative in their
    selections because there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If,
    for example, I had selected Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I
    would have got the same points as I would have done had I selected
    the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring
    system, perhaps based on results as the season develops?

    I'm happy to implememt any scoring system the group can agree with.
    Or even have parallel scoring systems as a trial. You are right the
    current sequence of dominance (Merc then RB) has led to a very
    boring competition. All ideas welcomed.

    Since the problem is basically at the front how about expanding the
    positions picked to the first 10?

    Back in the 1990s and early 2000 the "Pick 6" competition was run here;
    when points were allotted to 7th and 8th the game followed suit although
    the name didn't. (I believe the competition died before the FIA started
    giving points for 9th and 10th.) Scoring followed the same model as
    yours, although ISTR proposing (unsuccessfully) that the base score for
    picking each position should be the same.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    "Incineration of organic matter within it" is
    a bad feature for an umbrella. - Randall Munroe

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Fri Mar 31 11:43:55 2023
    On 30/03/2023 8:47 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/23 10:07, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/27/2023 4:21 AM, Mark wrote:
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    I am waiting on:

    [a whole raft of people]

    I suspect many of us are waiting in the hope that something, anything, >>>> will suggest that VER VER PER ALO isn't a lock.

    What do you think will be the most likely cause for a change?

    Perhaps we should run a betting pool on various causes, and date.

    I've watched F1 for 40ish years, and a very long time ago I stopped
    pretending I could accurately assess form until at least the first 4 or
    5 GPs had passed (and even then I get it wrong!).s

    Between shake-downs of gremlins, seeing performance in different
    conditions (track, temperature, weather - whatever), it's way too early
    to call anything. Yes, it looks like RB have the best package by some
    distance, but there's lots to play for.

    Of course, early in the season using the last race as a guide to the
    result for the next race is as good a guess as any...


    Mark: just thinking aloud but it seems to me that the current scoring
    system encourages people to be conservative in their selections because
    there is no extra reward for a bold choice. If, for example, I had selected Ocon to win the 2021 Hungarian GP I would have got the same points as I
    would have done had I selected the pole-sitter (Hamilton) and he had won.

    Would it be possible to devise some sort of odds-based scoring system, perhaps based on results as the season develops?

    I've often wondered that, especially as I like to make 'outside' picks (and even get it right now
    and then).

    However that would be a whole different beast and I dare say much more complicated and hands-on
    than the current pool that we have.

    That said maybe every three races the weighting could be set based on championship standings or
    maybe performance in the previous three races, maybe going 20 points down to one point from back to
    front (then multiplying that score by the current system?).

    It would certainly cause me to do more research and reading in the days leading up to each race.
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 30 17:21:43 2023
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:43:57 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

    I've often wondered that, especially as I like to make 'outside' picks (and even get it right now
    and then).

    However that would be a whole different beast and I dare say much more complicated and hands-on
    than the current pool that we have.

    It would certainly cause me to do more research and reading in the days leading up to each race.

    you sound queer

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