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Leclerc set for Saudi Arabian GP grid penalty after Bahrain F1 engine
trouble
Ferrari Formula 1 driver Charles Leclerc is set to take a 10-place grid
penalty in this weekend's Saudi Arabian Grand Prix after needing a third
set of control electronics.

Filip Cleeren
By:
Filip Cleeren
Mar 15, 2023, 7:02 AM

Leclerc set for Saudi Arabian GP grid penalty after Bahrain F1 engine
trouble
On race morning of the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix earlier this
month, Ferrari detected an anomaly in Leclerc's power unit control
electronics and decided to replace it with a new set.

But on the lap 40 of the Sakhir race, Leclerc pulled over with a loss of
power and it soon emerged that the control electronics box was again to
blame for Ferrari's first DNF of 2023.

After analysis in Maranello, team principal Fred Vasseur confirmed on
Wednesday that the unit, of which only two examples can be used per
year, will again need to be replaced.

Leclerc is therefore set to take his first 10-place grid penalty in
Jeddah, the first power unit related punishment of the season.

"There were two issues, one on the Sunday morning when we did the
fire-up and one in the race," Vasseur explained.

"Unfortunately, it was two times the control electronics box and it's
something that we never experienced in the past.

"I hope that now we have it under control. We have a deep analysis on
this. But unfortunately, we will have to take the penalty in Jeddah
because we only have a pool of two control electronics for the season."



Ferrari's engine reliability proved an Achilles heel throughout the 2022 season, with Leclerc retiring from the lead in both the Azerbaijan and
Spanish Grand Prix as his title challenge started falling apart.

It also led to the Maranello team turning down its 2022 engine as a
precaution, but after working on its issues over the winter rival teams
believe Ferrari turned up with the most powerful engine in Bahrain.

The control electronics issue is not said to be related to any problems
the team encountered last year.

Before the start of the season, Ferrari's head of power unit Enrico
Gualtieri said the team worked hard on addressing its reliability
issues, which unlike performance work is permitted by the engine
regulations.

"We worked on all areas trying to understand the root causes of the
problems we encountered on track and used all our available tools to try
and solve them," he said in a team video.

"We've had some positive feedback on the test bench on some of the
changes we've introduced. But as usual, the track will tell us if we've
done a good job."

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On 16/03/2023 10:03 am, a425couple wrote:

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Leclerc set for Saudi Arabian GP grid penalty after Bahrain F1 engine
trouble
Ferrari Formula 1 driver Charles Leclerc is set to take a 10-place grid penalty in this weekend's Saudi Arabian Grand Prix after needing a third
set of control electronics.

Filip Cleeren
By:
Filip Cleeren
Mar 15, 2023, 7:02 AM

Leclerc set for Saudi Arabian GP grid penalty after Bahrain F1 engine
trouble
On race morning of the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix earlier this
month, Ferrari detected an anomaly in Leclerc's power unit control electronics and decided to replace it with a new set.

But on the lap 40 of the Sakhir race, Leclerc pulled over with a loss of power and it soon emerged that the control electronics box was again to
blame for Ferrari's first DNF of 2023.

After analysis in Maranello, team principal Fred Vasseur confirmed on Wednesday that the unit, of which only two examples can be used per
year, will again need to be replaced.

Leclerc is therefore set to take his first 10-place grid penalty in
Jeddah, the first power unit related punishment of the season.

"There were two issues, one on the Sunday morning when we did the
fire-up and one in the race," Vasseur explained.

"Unfortunately, it was two times the control electronics box and it's something that we never experienced in the past.

"I hope that now we have it under control. We have a deep analysis on
this. But unfortunately, we will have to take the penalty in Jeddah
because we only have a pool of two control electronics for the season."

Ferrari's engine reliability proved an Achilles heel throughout the 2022 season, with Leclerc retiring from the lead in both the Azerbaijan and Spanish Grand Prix as his title challenge started falling apart.

It also led to the Maranello team turning down its 2022 engine as a precaution, but after working on its issues over the winter rival teams believe Ferrari turned up with the most powerful engine in Bahrain.

The control electronics issue is not said to be related to any problems
the team encountered last year.

Before the start of the season, Ferrari's head of power unit Enrico
Gualtieri said the team worked hard on addressing its reliability
issues, which unlike performance work is permitted by the engine
regulations.

"We worked on all areas trying to understand the root causes of the
problems we encountered on track and used all our available tools to try
and solve them," he said in a team video.

 "We've had some positive feedback on the test bench on some of the
changes we've introduced. But as usual, the track will tell us if we've
done a good job."

Presumably they couldn't simply fix them ....

geoff

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On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:29:22 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

Presumably they couldn't simply fix them ....

your parents should have been simply fixed.
so they couldnt reproduce.

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On 2023-03-18 5:21 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:

Reliability should be much better than this for all the teams. The drive train rules haven't changed in several years and the aero rules are a year old.

I was obviously wrong when I thought that the various electronic control
units were all standard and supplied by the FIA to the teams. Certainly
odd that two units in a row failed at the first race for Ferrari!

I wonder if teams are really pushing for even the slightest advantages
(as they always have done, of course) and this is leading to the number
of failures we've been seeing this year.

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Reliability should be much better than this for all the teams. The drive train rules haven't changed in several years and the aero rules are a year old.

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On 19/03/2023 10:21 am, XYXPDQ wrote:

Reliability should be much better than this for all the teams. The drive train rules haven't changed in several years and the aero rules are a year old.

As I said early last year; It seems to me that Ferrari are desperate for results and so are pushing
(especially) their PUs harder than they perhaps should. They need to keep beating their customer
teams to save face and the only way it seems they can do that is to turn the ICEs up to 11 for a
lot of the time.*

Their customer teams aren't doing that so their ICEs have been more reliable, running within
guidelines.

[* I think I said it on the F1 sub-reddit but got aggressively down-voted until my comment was
hidden by the bot. Ferrari fans are extremely ... fanatical. They've just down-voted me for saying
that, if I had the money and was buying a 'supercar' I'd rather have a McLaren than a Ferrari.]
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Shaun.

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After the safety car were both Ferraris told to not push? It was a bit strange how they just held position lap after lap.

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