• Now why would the FIA need him to sign an NDA?

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 15:50:50 2022
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to Abu
    Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA president
    talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial
    ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Fri Nov 18 17:00:32 2022
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to Abu
    Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA president
    talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Nov 19 13:43:01 2022
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to Abu
    Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA president
    talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    geoff

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Nov 18 17:21:01 2022
    On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:00:35 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    Really?

    With whom?

    you fucking dumb cunt

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Nov 18 17:20:20 2022
    On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 4:50:57 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to Abu
    Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA president
    talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'

    you fucking idiot

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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 10:35:56 2022
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.

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  • From Calum@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Nov 21 09:59:05 2022
    On 21/11/2022 07:35, RzR wrote:

    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.

    The idea that Latifi is a talented enough F1 driver to pull that off successfully is hilarious.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Nov 21 13:11:23 2022
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I think there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian Horner.

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Mon Nov 21 10:07:59 2022
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.' >>>>

    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I think there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Nov 21 10:07:18 2022
    On 2022-11-20 23:35, RzR wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.

    Precisely.

    Masi was given his marching orders by his bosses...

    ...he went to the teams and specifically told them that safety car
    periods would be handled differently near the end of the race...

    ...and afterwards, when the FIA "investigated":

    They didn't question Masi...

    ...and they extracted an NDA from him.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Nov 22 09:51:08 2022
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title
    win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I think >> there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Nov 21 13:51:41 2022
    On 2022-11-21 12:51, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    It is pretty standard in business...

    ...to lay all the blame on on person...

    ...but give them a handsome severance package...

    ...and prevent them from speaking with an NDA.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 14:49:09 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:07:23 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    Precisely.

    you are precisely a fucking idiot

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 14:50:28 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:51:47 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    It is pretty standard in business...

    you are an above standard fucking moron

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 14:51:12 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:08:02 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    fuck off asswipe

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Nov 22 11:54:29 2022
    On 22/11/2022 10:51 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 12:51, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have >>>>>>>> had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    It is pretty standard in business...

    ...to lay all the blame on on person...

    ...but give them a handsome severance package...

    ...and prevent them from speaking with an NDA.


    Yep.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Nov 22 12:28:25 2022
    On 22/11/2022 12:19 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 14:54, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 10:51 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 12:51, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the
    lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA >>>>>>>>>> president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a >>>>>>>>>> non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the >>>>>>>>>> controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. ' >>>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans >>>>>>>>>> have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World >>>>>>>>>> Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this >>>>>>> presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on
    purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2
    longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but >>>>>> I think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from
    Christian Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    It is pretty standard in business...

    ...to lay all the blame on on person...

    ...but give them a handsome severance package...

    ...and prevent them from speaking with an NDA.


    Yep.

    And to whose benefit is such an NDA do you suppose?


    For everybody's' benefit, to prevent damaging shit from flying around indefinitely. From that source at least.

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Nov 21 15:19:37 2022
    On 2022-11-21 14:54, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 10:51 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 12:51, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA >>>>>>>>> president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a >>>>>>>>> non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. ' >>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans
    have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World
    Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this >>>>>> presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, >>>>>> and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2
    longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I >>>>> think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    It is pretty standard in business...

    ...to lay all the blame on on person...

    ...but give them a handsome severance package...

    ...and prevent them from speaking with an NDA.


    Yep.

    And to whose benefit is such an NDA do you suppose?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Nov 21 15:52:35 2022
    On 2022-11-21 15:28, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 12:19 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 14:54, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 10:51 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 12:51, geoff wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the
    lead-up to
    Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA >>>>>>>>>>> president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a >>>>>>>>>>> non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the >>>>>>>>>>> controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. ' >>>>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans >>>>>>>>>>> have had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World >>>>>>>>>>> Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this >>>>>>>> presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on
    purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2
    longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but >>>>>>> I think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from
    Christian Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened? >>>>>>

    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    It is pretty standard in business...

    ...to lay all the blame on on person...

    ...but give them a handsome severance package...

    ...and prevent them from speaking with an NDA.


    Yep.

    And to whose benefit is such an NDA do you suppose?


    For everybody's' benefit, to prevent damaging shit from flying around indefinitely. From that source at least.

    If the shit was only damaging to Masi...

    As you've contended.

    ...why would the FIA care?

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 17:32:46 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:19:40 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    And to whose benefit is such an NDA do you suppose?

    fuck you
    you juvenile
    trolling
    simpleton
    piece of shit
    cock sucking
    loser
    logoff
    and kill yourself
    put yourself out of your fucking misery

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Nov 21 17:25:17 2022
    On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:52:37 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    ...why would the FIA care?

    fuck you
    you juvenile
    trolling
    simpleton
    piece of shit
    cock sucking
    loser
    logoff
    and kill yourself
    put yourself out of your fucking misery

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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Nov 23 16:43:19 2022
    On 22/11/2022 4:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>


    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title
    win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and
    Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding
    rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I think >> there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    It may have nothing to do with Abu Dhabi, in his position he may have
    got to know a lot of stuff that the FIA would rather not be made public.

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 09:18:47 2022
    On 2022-11-23 1:43 AM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 4:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    It may have nothing to do with Abu Dhabi, in his position he may have
    got to know a lot of stuff that the FIA would rather not be made public.

    (sarcasm on) Oh please! Being reasonable just isn't what we do here.
    (sarcasm off)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 09:01:51 2022
    On 2022-11-22 22:43, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 4:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    It may have nothing to do with Abu Dhabi, in his position he may have
    got to know a lot of stuff that the FIA would rather not be made public.

    You should really read the source first:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial
    ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    Not a general NDA.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Nov 23 14:24:30 2022
    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:01:54 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    You should really read the source first:

    you should really go fuck yourself
    you fucking oxygen thief

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Nov 26 15:53:52 2022
    On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:01:51 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-11-22 22:43, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 4:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have had >>>>>>>> over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    It may have nothing to do with Abu Dhabi, in his position he may have
    got to know a lot of stuff that the FIA would rather not be made public.

    You should really read the source first:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial >ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    Not a general NDA.

    You regard the Daily Mail as a reputable source? You must be even
    dafter than I thought.

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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Nov 27 17:39:40 2022
    On 24/11/2022 3:01 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 22:43, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/11/2022 4:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to >>>>>>>> Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some information about the FIA
    president talking about the report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the
    controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>


    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions fans have >>>>>>>> had
    over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title >>>>>>>> win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have
    discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like this
    presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and >>>>> Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to break 2 longstanding >>>>> rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but I
    think
    there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian
    Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?

    It may have nothing to do with Abu Dhabi, in his position he may have
    got to know a lot of stuff that the FIA would rather not be made public.

    You should really read the source first:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly signed a
    non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial ending to last season's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. '

    Not a general NDA.

    Note the word "Reportedly" i.e. unverifiable information from anonymous sources.

    From your source

    "Masi cannot talk about the decision he made in Abu Dhabi due to
    Non-Disclosure Agreements with the FIA"

    Someone in Masi's position would likely sign such NDAs as part of his employment conditions covering whatever internal information that he was
    privy to. It's common corporate practice.

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun Nov 27 16:58:47 2022
    geoff wrote:

    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <razor@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the
    lead-up to Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some
    information about the FIA president talking about the
    report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly
    signed a non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never
    discuss the controversial ending to last season's Abu
    Dhabi Grand Prix. '


    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions
    fans have had over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like
    this presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on
    purpose, and Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to
    break 2 longstanding rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but
    I think there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.


    "Michael can we discuss how you made one of the worst RD decisions in
    the history of Formula One and decided the winner of the 2021 season."

    "I'm sorry I'm not allowed to talk about that"

    The idea that Masi would want to talk about his most controversial
    mistakes for the next 20 years is laughable... or that the FIA would
    want him to.

    An NDA draws a line underneath it. Simple as that and anyone claiming
    otherwise is fabricating.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Sun Nov 27 13:01:27 2022
    On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 9:58:49 AM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 22/11/2022 7:07 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-21 05:11, Sir Tim wrote:
    RzR <ra...@email.tg> wrote:
    On 11/19/2022 4:00 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-11-18 16:43, geoff wrote:
    On 19/11/2022 12:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    I missed this at the time. I only heard about it in the lead-up to Abu Dhabi this year when I saw some
    information about the FIA president talking about the
    report on the 2021 race:

    'Former F1 race director Michael Masi has reportedly
    signed a non-disclosure agreement with the FIA to never discuss the controversial ending to last season's Abu
    Dhabi Grand Prix. '


    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11069627/Ex-Formula-One-race-director-Michael-Masi-signed-NDA-events-Abu-Dhabi-year.html>

    'The signing of the NDA only reinforces the suspicions
    fans have had over the incidents in Dubai that led to Verstappen's World Title win.'


    Because he is part of The Conspiracy.

    Really?

    With whom?

    :-)


    Do you really think that Masi and whoever (whom) did not have discussions prior to Abu Dhabi 21, in case an opportunity like
    this presents itself? I mean, I am 100% sure Latifi crashed on purpose, and Masi sure as hell did not make such a decision to
    break 2 longstanding rules and combine them, on his own.


    I don’t believe for a moment that Latifi crashed deliberately but
    I think there is little doubt that Masi caved in to pressure from Christian Horner.

    LOL!

    And why would the FIA demand an NDA if that was all that happened?


    Pretty standard in those sort of circumstances, in business.

    "Michael can we discuss how you made one of the worst RD decisions in
    the history of Formula One and decided the winner of the 2021 season."

    "I'm sorry I'm not allowed to talk about that"

    The idea that Masi would want to talk about his most controversial
    mistakes for the next 20 years is laughable... or that the FIA would
    want him to.

    An NDA draws a line underneath it. Simple as that and anyone claiming otherwise is fabricating.

    Look what the sewer backed up from rec.sport.golf.
    It's fuckwad.
    Humping alan's leg.
    What fucking spineless twat.

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