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  • Red Bull (and Aston Martin) guilty of breach of cost cap.

    From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 08:37:14 2022
    That is the clickbait headline - but the FIA said that the offence was "minor"

    more - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63204082

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Mon Oct 10 12:29:46 2022
    On 10/10/2022 11:37 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    That is the clickbait headline - but the FIA said that the offence was "minor"

    more - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63204082

    'Minor' Toto meltdown in 3, 2, 1...

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  • From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 09:50:35 2022
    It's not about racing it's about "A procedural breach is not an overspend, but rather a failure to fill in forms correctly. Williams were also found guilty of this and fined $25,000 earlier this year.".

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  • From Matt Larkin@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Tue Oct 11 03:09:54 2022
    On Monday, 10 October 2022 at 17:50:36 UTC+1, XYXPDQ wrote:
    It's not about racing it's about "A procedural breach is not an overspend, but rather a failure to fill in forms correctly. Williams were also found guilty of this and fined $25,000 earlier this year.".
    I thought the procedural breach was something separate to what RBR were identified as doing?

    Time to let RBR make their case about why this finding is wrong, and then debate the impact later.

    Ferrari said something along the lines of $5m = 0.5s lap time.

    In the context of last year if RBR over-spent then it may have actually contributed
    to the drivers outcome, which is a shame as a line needs drawing under that.

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  • From Matt Larkin@21:1/5 to Edmund on Tue Oct 11 03:46:41 2022
    On Tuesday, 11 October 2022 at 11:31:21 UTC+1, Edmund wrote:
    On 10/10/22 18:50, XYXPDQ wrote:
    It's not about racing it's about "A procedural breach is not an overspend, but rather a failure to fill in forms correctly. Williams were also found guilty of this and fined $25,000 earlier this year.".
    Well if that is coming on top of the amount they already spend too much, its making the offense even worse.

    Edmund
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    “The further a society drifts from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell
    Aston Martin had a procedural breach.
    Williams had an earlier procedural breach which was corrected.
    RBR had a procedural breach AND a minor overspend breach.

    https://www.fia.com/news/fia-completes-review-under-2021-fia-formula-1-financial-regulations

    So only one team has been identified as overspending, but we don't know if this was $7 or $7m
    at this stage. We do know it was not more than about $8m as it is a "minor" breach.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Tue Oct 11 12:31:18 2022
    On 10/10/22 18:50, XYXPDQ wrote:
    It's not about racing it's about "A procedural breach is not an overspend, but rather a failure to fill in forms correctly. Williams were also found guilty of this and fined $25,000 earlier this year.".

    Well if that is coming on top of the amount they already spend too much, its making the offense even worse.

    Edmund
    --
    “The further a society drifts from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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