• Tennessee governor signs law adding penalties to transgender athlete ba

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 26 19:09:59 2022
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    The law, which is set to take effect July 1, will pull funding from
    Tennessee schools that fail to verify a student-athlete’s sex assigned at birth.

    https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/3463878-tennessee- governor-signs-law-adding-penalties-to-transgender-athlete-ban/

    Story at a glance

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has signed into law a measure adding harsh penalties to an existing law barring transgender athletes from competing
    on school sports teams that match their gender identity.

    Under the law, funding will be withheld from school districts that refuse
    or fail to verify the gender listed on a student-athlete’s “original”
    birth certificate.

    The state legislature is pursuing additional legislation targeting the
    state’s transgender and nonbinary youth, including a measure that would
    allow public school teachers to ignore a student’s preferred personal
    pronouns if those pronouns are inconsistent with the student’s sex
    assigned at birth.

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure to prevent transgender athletes from competing on school sports teams consistent with their gender identity, adding harsher penalties to the state’s existing transgender athlete ban.

    Lee late last week without comment signed into law House Bill 1895, which
    will pull funding from state schools that allow transgender students to
    play on sports teams aligning with their gender identity, doubling down on
    an existing Tennessee law which already bars transgender athletes from gender-segregated sports teams inconsistent with their sex assigned at
    birth.

    The new measure, which is set to take effect July 1, requires Tennessee’s education commissioner to “withhold a portion of the state education
    finance funds” from local school districts that fail or refuse to
    determine a student-athlete’s gender using the student’s “original” birth certificate.

    Lee last year signed into law legislation requiring students beyond the
    fourth grade to provide legal documentation demonstrating their sex
    assigned at birth to participate in school sports. That law is still in
    effect despite a pending lawsuit challenging its constitutionality. A
    trial has been tentatively set for March of next year, The Associated
    Press reported.

    Lee after signing the measure into law last year tweeted that the action
    was done to “preserve women’s athletics and ensure fair competition.”
    Similar arguments have been made by other conservative lawmakers and state officials in enacting related legislation, asserting that transgender
    female athletes in particular have a material competitive advantage over cisgender women and girls.

    In a statement to the Associated Press, Henry Seaton, a transgender
    justice advocate at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of
    Tennessee, said measures like these send a harmful message to transgender
    youth and set dangerous precedents. Tennessee lawmakers are already
    pushing to pass additional legislation barring transgender women from participating in school athletics through college.

    “Telling transgender students that they can’t participate as who they
    really are amounts to excluding them from sports entirely – depriving them
    of opportunities available to their peers and sending the message that
    they are not worthy of a full life,” Seaton said.

    In a statement on Monday, Chris Sanders, the executive director of the Tennessee Equality Project, said the new measure was “built on
    misinformation” meant to stigmatize transgender and nonbinary people.

    “It is hard to imagine a worse combination–cutting school funds for not discriminating,” he said. “It is past time for Tennessee to pursue
    policies that create a sense of belonging for trans and nonbinary students
    in our schools.”

    Lawmakers in Tennessee this week also sent House Bill 2633 to the
    governor’s desk. If that measure is signed into law, public school
    teachers in Tennessee will be permitted to ignore a student’s preferred personal pronouns if those pronouns do not align with their sex assigned
    at birth.



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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Tue Apr 26 12:25:33 2022
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    On 4/26/2022 12:09 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    The law, which is set to take effect July 1, will pull funding from
    Tennessee schools that fail to verify a student-athlete’s sex assigned at birth.

    Sex is not "assigned" at birth. It is *recorded* at birth.

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  • From Chad@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Wed Apr 27 00:29:37 2022
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    Rudy Canoza <notgenx33@gmail.com> wrote:


    On 4/26/2022 12:09 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    The law, which is set to take effect July 1, will pull funding
    from
    Tennessee schools that fail to verify a student-athlete’s sex assigned at
    birth.

    Sex is not "assigned" at birth. It is *recorded* at birth.

    Semantics, although you get awarded half a point for being correct.

    Record this in your journals everyone, Rudy got something right.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Chad on Tue Apr 26 15:35:41 2022
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    On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 00:29:37 +0200, Chad <chad@gmail.com> wrote:

    Rudy Canoza <notgenx33@gmail.com> wrote:


    On 4/26/2022 12:09 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    The law, which is set to take effect July 1, will pull funding
    from
    Tennessee schools that fail to verify a student-athlete’s sex >assigned at
    birth.

    Sex is not "assigned" at birth. It is *recorded* at birth.

    Semantics, although you get awarded half a point for being correct.

    Record this in your journals everyone, Rudy got something right.

    Holy shit. Well, stopped clocks 'n' all.....

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 26 19:03:00 2022
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    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few
    dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and
    need some perceived enemy to punish.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Tue Apr 26 20:17:03 2022
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    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few
    dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and
    need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology-losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender-issues.aspx

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Apr 26 20:44:24 2022
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    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few >dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and >need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology- losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender- issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of another,
    that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're not busy
    taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other corruption that
    comes from having absolute power for way too long).

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Wed Apr 27 04:26:56 2022
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:44:24 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few
    dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and
    need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology- >> losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender- >> issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of another,
    that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're not busy
    taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other corruption that
    comes from having absolute power for way too long).

    There are no anti-LBGTQ laws, Dummy. Most people have no problem with
    gay people. Most people don't even care about people pretending to
    change their gender as long as they don't demand that everybody else
    play along with their nonsense.

    There are, and there will be more laws that ban men from competing in
    women's athletics and ban teachers from trying to groom children. Such
    laws are not anti-LBGTQ, they are get out of my face laws.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Apr 27 07:13:39 2022
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    In article <hsuh6h5o3dg08gkeo3sct3bv1e4ckkqup5@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:44:24 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few >> >dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and >> >need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology
    -
    losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender
    -
    issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of another, >that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're not busy
    taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other corruption that >comes from having absolute power for way too long).

    There are no anti-LBGTQ laws, Dummy. Most people have no problem with
    gay people. Most people don't even care about people pretending to
    change their gender as long as they don't demand that everybody else
    play along with their nonsense.

    <laugh> You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph, buttmunch.

    "...as they don't demand that everybody else play along with their
    nonsense," sounds like the kind of rationalization that opponents used
    against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Wed Apr 27 09:07:46 2022
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 07:13:39 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <hsuh6h5o3dg08gkeo3sct3bv1e4ckkqup5@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:44:24 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few >> >> >dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and >> >> >need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology
    -
    losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender
    -
    issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of another,
    that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're not busy
    taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other corruption that
    comes from having absolute power for way too long).

    There are no anti-LBGTQ laws, Dummy. Most people have no problem with
    gay people. Most people don't even care about people pretending to
    change their gender as long as they don't demand that everybody else
    play along with their nonsense.

    <laugh> You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph, buttmunch.

    "...as they don't demand that everybody else play along with their
    nonsense," sounds like the kind of rationalization that opponents used >against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    No contradiction, Half-wit. I couldn't care less who other people want
    to marry as long as they don't pester me to go to their weddings. I
    couldn't care less if some guy want to dress up in women's clothes as
    long as he doesn't expect me to treat him the same as I would treat a
    woman. If some loon wants me to refer to them with a weird name, I
    will if I have to refer to them at all, but if they expect me to use
    pronouns that I don't think are appropriate, I'll prabably just walk
    away.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Wed Apr 27 05:19:26 2022
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 07:13:39 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <hsuh6h5o3dg08gkeo3sct3bv1e4ckkqup5@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:44:24 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection some
    day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff, only a few >> >> >dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control the legislature and >> >> >need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-ideology
    -
    losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender
    -
    issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of another,
    that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're not busy
    taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other corruption that
    comes from having absolute power for way too long).

    There are no anti-LBGTQ laws, Dummy. Most people have no problem with
    gay people. Most people don't even care about people pretending to
    change their gender as long as they don't demand that everybody else
    play along with their nonsense.

    <laugh> You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph, buttmunch.

    "...as they don't demand that everybody else play along with their
    nonsense," sounds like the kind of rationalization that opponents used >against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    I don't recall Democrats using that logic to fight against the 1964
    Civil Rights Act.

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  • From bob user@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 27 18:27:17 2022
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    On 27 Apr 2022, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> posted some news:super70s-F94068.07133927042022@reader02.eternal-september.org:

    In article <hsuh6h5o3dg08gkeo3sct3bv1e4ckkqup5@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:44:24 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <0l2h6hh5pr53rgsfi2vtv3rlds658fsj4e@4ax.com>,
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:03:00 -0500, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has quietly enacted another measure

    He's being quiet about it because he wants to run for reelection
    some day and average citizens don't give a shit about this stuff,
    only a few dozen right-wing rubes from rural areas who control
    the legislature and need some perceived enemy to punish.

    <LOL> You obviously don't know any average citizens.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/11/08/poll-shows-transgender-
    ideology -
    losing-support/

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-tra
    nsgender -
    issues.aspx

    People aren't crying out for one new anti-LBGTQ law on top of
    another, that's what Tennessee's legislature is doing (when they're
    not busy taking kickbacks from lobbyists and indulging in other
    corruption that comes from having absolute power for way too long).

    There are no anti-LBGTQ laws, Dummy. Most people have no problem with
    gay people. Most people don't even care about people pretending to
    change their gender as long as they don't demand that everybody else
    play along with their nonsense.

    <laugh> You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph,
    buttmunch.

    "...as they don't demand that everybody else play along with their
    nonsense," sounds like the kind of rationalization that opponents used against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Wrong cite. LBGTQ is a mental health issue.

    "SUBCHAPTER IV—MENTAL HEALTH RIGHTS AND ADVOCACY
    §9501. Bill of Rights
    It is the sense of the Congress that each State should review and revise,
    if necessary, its laws to ensure that mental health patients receive the protection and services they require; and in making such review and
    revision should take into account the recommendations of the President's Commission on Mental Health and the following:

    (1) A person admitted to a program or facility for the purpose of
    receiving mental health services should be accorded the following:

    (A) The right to appropriate treatment and related services in a setting
    and under conditions that—

    (i) are the most supportive of such person's personal liberty; and

    (ii) restrict such liberty only to the extent necessary consistent with
    such person's treatment needs, applicable requirements of law, and
    applicable judicial orders."

    <https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2fprelim%40title42%2fchapter102 &edition=prelim&msclkid=2b40d4edc65711ec9155b38fcd84e026>

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to bob user on Wed Apr 27 16:32:10 2022
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    In article <XnsAE867486729ECXD305@0.0.0.0>,
    bob user <bobuser@mindspring.com> wrote:

    Wrong cite. LBGTQ is a mental health issue.

    Since doctors disagree with you you will try to get the
    government to override medical opinion. That will lead to long
    and expensive litigation that will end with the current campaign
    promotions discarded. At least it's Tennessee cutting open its
    stomach while big companies settle in, say, Pennsylvania.

    --
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  • From Bernardo@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 28 00:33:19 2022
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    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in news:chine.bleu- 2FC677.16320227042022@reader.eternal-september.org:

    In article <XnsAE867486729ECXD305@0.0.0.0>,
    bob user <bobuser@mindspring.com> wrote:

    Wrong cite. LBGTQ is a mental health issue.

    Since doctors disagree with you you will try to get the
    government to override medical opinion. That will lead to long
    and expensive litigation that will end with the current campaign
    promotions discarded. At least it's Tennessee cutting open its
    stomach while big companies settle in, say, Pennsylvania.

    Doctors are not immune from mental illness.

    They will also take money to promote a cause or drugs just like anyone
    else.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Bernardo on Wed Apr 27 19:01:38 2022
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <XnsAE86B295333DD01A0U@0.0.0.2>,
    Bernardo <bernardo17@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Doctors are not immune from mental illness.

    They will also take money to promote a cause or drugs just like anyone
    else.

    The US government is facing million dollar payouts over abuse of
    immigrants. And now you want Tennesse to join in the fun of
    paying off political stunts for millions.

    --
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