Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming
group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent
Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from
the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner,
Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose
establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few
Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming
group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent
Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from
the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few
Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised
there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider
Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities
both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my
school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
This does not include offshoots like the Doukhobors of BC's Kootenay
region who were so infamous back in the 1950s.
I'd say William Gibson is presently the most notably Canadian SF
writer but that's my opinion.
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming
group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent
Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from
the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few
Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised
there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider
Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities
both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my
school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming
group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent
Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from
the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few
Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised
there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider
Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming
group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from
the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few
Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider
Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities
both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my
school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
In article <v0hcvm$s2e$2@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming >>>>group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from >>>>the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart
and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I
have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few >>>>Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities
both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:55:59 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <v0hcvm$s2e$2@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >>>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
wrote:
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions
had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming >>>>>group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees,
I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from >>>>>the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart >>>>>and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I >>>>>have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has
of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few >>>>>Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that
short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities >>>>both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
KW = Key West?
I'd say William Gibson is presently the most notably Canadian SF
writer but that's my opinion.
Gibson and Spider Robinson were voted into the Hall of Fame in 2014, the >first year that it was called the Hall of Fame Award. They're no
longer eligible to be voted in this year!
Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as=20 >>>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities >>>>both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them
read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count. =20
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
KW =3D Key West?
In article <ej5q2jl4co9khptil54elik3vedlp05099@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:55:59 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <v0hcvm$s2e$2@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) >>>>>wrote:Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >>>>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions >>>>>>had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be
a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming >>>>>>group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees, >>>>>>I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>>>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from >>>>>>the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart >>>>>>and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I >>>>>>have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>>>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has >>>>>>of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>>>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few >>>>>>Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that >>>>>>short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities >>>>>both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them >>>>>read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
KW = Key West?
Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. It's about 100 kilometres west of Toronto.
Two universities, a college or two.
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:20:33 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <ej5q2jl4co9khptil54elik3vedlp05099@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:55:59 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James >>>Nicoll) wrote:
In article <v0hcvm$s2e$2@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) >>>>>>wrote:Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >>>>>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions >>>>>>>had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be >>>>>>>a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming >>>>>>>group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees, >>>>>>>I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>>>>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from >>>>>>>the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart >>>>>>>and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I >>>>>>>have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>>>>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has >>>>>>>of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>>>>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few >>>>>>>Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that >>>>>>>short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>>>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>>>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities >>>>>>both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>>>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them >>>>>>read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
KW = Key West?
Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. It's about 100 kilometres west of Toronto.
Two universities, a college or two.
And presumably home of Watcom International Corporation, original >developer/publisher of the Watcom compiler suite.
Unless the University of Waterloo is located elsewhere.
In article <pass2jdqq4annu3quhfahc68lgit43pe9n@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:20:33 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <ej5q2jl4co9khptil54elik3vedlp05099@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:55:59 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James >>>>Nicoll) wrote:
In article <v0hcvm$s2e$2@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <567o2j59an2gq66on9aijckdu1rdmbck81@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2024 14:38:31 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) >>>>>>>wrote:Dur, I am doofus: To the extent having lived in KW counts as >>>>>>Mennonite-adjacent, Matthew Hughes, Rob Sawyer, Dennis Mullen,
Two things kind of jumped out at me: first, this year's additions >>>>>>>>had three people from UW, two from my TTRPG group. That could be >>>>>>>>a record for most number of HoF nominees from a particular gaming >>>>>>>>group. Second, before I looked closely at the HoF and the nominees, >>>>>>>>I never noticed how many actual Mennonites and Mennonite-adjacent >>>>>>>>Canadians are nominees or inductees: van Vogt and Schroeder are from >>>>>>>>the same Manitoba German Mennonite community (albeit, decades apart >>>>>>>>and from diffent ends of the community). I'm not a Mennonite but I >>>>>>>>have Mennonite relatives by marriage and by blood. As well, Gardner, >>>>>>>>Hadfield and I are all Waterloo region connected and Waterloo has >>>>>>>>of course, the most notable Mennonite community in Canada whose >>>>>>>>establishment involved a spectacular land fraud. Given how few >>>>>>>>Mennonites are in Canada, the number I'd expect in a list that >>>>>>>>short is none.
I had never heard of this award before but am not all that surprised >>>>>>>there's a Canadian award. Though I was surprised not to see Spider >>>>>>>Robinson given how long he's lived in Vancouver.
As for Mennonites, there are also substantial Mennonite communities >>>>>>>both in BC's Fraser Valley (E of Vancouver) and S of Winnipeg. In my >>>>>>>school days I knew several from both places. I'm sure some of them >>>>>>>read SF but I wouldn't know.
and John Roberts Columbo also count.
And Cory Doctorow lived in KW at least twice, I think.
KW = Key West?
Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. It's about 100 kilometres west of Toronto. >>>Two universities, a college or two.
And presumably home of Watcom International Corporation, original >>developer/publisher of the Watcom compiler suite.
Unless the University of Waterloo is located elsewhere.
Canadians being extraordinarily unimaginative when it comes to
names*, UWaterloo is in Waterloo, ON.
Oddly, Thomas Ryan inexplicably located UW in Kitchener in his
The Adolescence of P1.
*Until the post office intervened, there were four Niagaras in Ontario.
Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. It's about 100 kilometres west of Toronto.
Two universities, a college or two.
And presumably home of Watcom International Corporation, original >developer/publisher of the Watcom compiler suite.
Unless the University of Waterloo is located elsewhere.
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