Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need?
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
James Nicoll wrote:
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need? >>
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
The Tor thread mentions "We Can Remember it For You Wholesale" (PKD).
Yet "Tl??n, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" (Borges) multiplies mnemonic
manipulation to make it cover an entire planet:
Tl??n???s putative ???primitive language??? has now found its way
into our schools; the teaching of its harmonious history,
so full of stirring episodes, has obliterated the history
that presided over my childhood; in our memories a
fictitious past has now replaced our past, of which we know
nothing for certain???not even that it is false.
Don wrote:
James Nicoll wrote:
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need? >>>
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
The Tor thread mentions "We Can Remember it For You Wholesale" (PKD).
Yet "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" (Borges) multiplies mnemonic
manipulation to make it cover an entire planet:
Tlon's putative "primitive language" has now found its way
into our schools; the teaching of its harmonious history,
so full of stirring episodes, has obliterated the history
that presided over my childhood; in our memories a
fictitious past has now replaced our past, of which we know
nothing for certain-not even that it is false.
Interesting! Never thought of them together, but it makes perfect sense. I like both. Thank you for making that connection!
D wrote:
Don wrote:
James Nicoll wrote:
Five SF Stories Involving Memory ManipulationThe Tor thread mentions "We Can Remember it For You Wholesale" (PKD).
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need?
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/ >>>
Yet "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" (Borges) multiplies mnemonic
manipulation to make it cover an entire planet:
Tlon's putative "primitive language" has now found its way
into our schools; the teaching of its harmonious history,
so full of stirring episodes, has obliterated the history
that presided over my childhood; in our memories a
fictitious past has now replaced our past, of which we know
nothing for certain-not even that it is false.
Interesting! Never thought of them together, but it makes perfect sense. I >> like both. Thank you for making that connection!
Thank you for your kind words.
Among other things, suppression and repression respectively refer to
either the conscious or unconscious exclusion of memories. And both
words coincidentally carry connotations of political tactics.
Orwellian memory holes appear intentional and suggest suppression
in the sense of both memorial and political.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens,
you can bet it was planned that way."
Rhetorical question: isn't it impossible to understand political plans if >history has huge holes in it?
"The only thing new in the world is the history you do
not know."
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need?
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need? >>
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
I immediately thought of "Memory" by Lois McMaster Bujold.
On 2024-01-19, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need? >>
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
The movie _Total Recall_ (1990) nicely illustrates the danger.
Maybe the Philip K. Dick story that inspired it does too, but I
haven't read that one.
In _Perry Rhodan_'s Cappins plotline (#400-499), Ovaron is a man in
a security-related position who notices inconsistencies in his
memories and goes on to investigate. This inadvertently puts him
in great danger, because as it turns out he is a deep-cover spy who >intentionally sealed and manipulated his memories as part of his
mission. Oops.
James Nicoll wrote:
Five SF Stories Involving Memory Manipulation
Memories: inherently unreliable or subject to alteration according to need? >>
https://www.tor.com/2024/01/19/five-sf-stories-involving-memory-manipulation/
The movie _Total Recall_ (1990) nicely illustrates the danger.
Maybe the Philip K. Dick story that inspired it does too, but I
haven't read that one.
In _Perry Rhodan_'s Cappins plotline (#400-499), Ovaron is a man in
a security-related position who notices inconsistencies in his
memories and goes on to investigate. This inadvertently puts him
in great danger, because as it turns out he is a deep-cover spy who intentionally sealed and manipulated his memories as part of his
mission. Oops. (Va snpg, ur'f gur ehyre (!) bs n pbzcrgvat rzcver,
jub qhr gb uvf enax vf gur bayl bar nyybjrq gb unir n cnegvphyne
zbqvsvpngvba gung vf pbzzba nzbat gur uvture enaxf bs uvf bccbaragf.)
CJ Cherryh's /Downbelow Station/ has a character who is in a similar situation: he volunteers to have his memories removed and replaced,
but they turn out to be fake memories and he is actually an agent.
On 2024-01-21, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
CJ Cherryh's /Downbelow Station/ has a character who is in a similar
situation: he volunteers to have his memories removed and replaced,
but they turn out to be fake memories and he is actually an agent.
Now that I think about it, that's also the start of _Total Recall_: >Construction workers goes to have memories of an adventure implanted,
but then things go wrong, because he's an agent with fake memories.
Of course it's also possible that this _is_ the fake adventure he
paid for and the rest of the movie doesn't actually happen...
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