I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:47:20 PM UTC-5, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
That would explain why many of my posts go answered by people I expected
to take an interest.
pt
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. >‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
On 11/8/2023 12:28 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:47:20 PM UTC-5, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
That would explain why many of my posts go answered by people I expected
to take an interest.
pt
First, like the typo.
Over in Eternal September support there's been much discussion about GG
(with quite a few just saying de-peer them). I believe the owner of
n.i.n has posted there. Both he and Ray have, IIRC, taken the GG link
offline for a day or two at times while trying to fine tune spam filters.
Depeer Google GRoups now!
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
In article <robertaw-53F13F.09471308112023@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the >>r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam >>originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check >>those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. >>‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
I sent them an email.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
I post mainly through GG. NNTP won't go through
my corporate firewall, and the number of clients
that work on an iPad or Android is approximately
zero.
I don't want' to be limited to firing up my laptop
(Linux/Windows) to use Usenet.
It's like the convenience of streaming music rather than the bother of turn= >ing on the amplifier and the CD player, finding the album in your collectio= >n, and juggling the disk into the tray, then waiting those endless seconds = >for it to spin up.
I wonder if today's vinyl aficionados have a ritual lik=
e my '80s roommate, starting with taking the record out of its special non-= >paper sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and using a special cleaning bru= >sh -with a couple drops of a special cleaning fluid- before starting to pla= >y.
In article <kr321mFo60hU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
In article <robertaw-53F13F.09471308112023@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
I sent them an email.
I got back a response, which I have permission to share here:
Yes, we are currently not accepting articles from both
Google Groups and Abavia because of persistant spam flodding
that is so random that we cannot properly distinguish spam
from non spam articles with our anti spam tools even when
putting in several hours of manual filtering and training
every day, and had to cut off the entire sites.
We are aware that is not good solution because we are cutting
off regular users as well, but the disruption caused in
many groups was literally destroying them and causing
multiple complaints.
You might want to check news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for
discussions on that matter or take a look at groups like
comp.lang.c (you need to go back a few days) to see what
spam via Google Groups was doing to the groups and Google
is not stopping this abuse for many weeks.
We are not happy with the solution but it was the best we
could do for the time being.
We will of course lift the ban if Google stops the abuse,
and we are also considering whitelisting based on group (it
seems that they spared rec.arts.sf.written until now) or
based on user.
We are very sorry for inconvenience (and also a bit sad -
we care a lot about Usenet and hate is when people abuse
it), but letting the flooding continue was not an option.
Disappointing from a user perspective, but at least it's something
they are aware of and are actively involved in.
What was Google's corporate motto again?
In article <kr321mFo60hU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
In article <robertaw-53F13F.09471308112023@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
I sent them an email.
I got back a response, which I have permission to share here:
Yes, we are currently not accepting articles from both
Google Groups and Abavia because of persistant spam flodding
that is so random that we cannot properly distinguish spam
from non spam articles with our anti spam tools even when
putting in several hours of manual filtering and training
every day, and had to cut off the entire sites.
We are aware that is not good solution because we are cutting
off regular users as well, but the disruption caused in
many groups was literally destroying them and causing
multiple complaints.
You might want to check news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for
discussions on that matter or take a look at groups like
comp.lang.c (you need to go back a few days) to see what
spam via Google Groups was doing to the groups and Google
is not stopping this abuse for many weeks.
We are not happy with the solution but it was the best we
could do for the time being.
We will of course lift the ban if Google stops the abuse,
and we are also considering whitelisting based on group (it
seems that they spared rec.arts.sf.written until now) or
based on user.
We are very sorry for inconvenience (and also a bit sad -
we care a lot about Usenet and hate is when people abuse
it), but letting the flooding continue was not an option.
Disappointing from a user perspective, but at least it's something
they are aware of and are actively involved in.
What was Google's corporate motto again?
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:I tried to link my Windows XP machine up with Eternal September some time ago and failed. That machine is slowly becoming less and less useful, as it is not only XP, but runs an AMD 64-bit chip without SSE instructions, which means that I cannot get a
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25?AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
For that matter, has anyone checked what proportion
of the spam is coming through GG?
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:53:23?AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:if today's vinyl aficionados have a ritual like my '80s roommate, starting with taking the record out of its special non-paper sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and using a special cleaning brush -with a couple drops of a special cleaning fluid-
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25?AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote: >> > On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
He is, I believe, the source of the monthly statistics post.
I post mainly through GG. NNTP won't go through
my corporate firewall, and the number of clients
that work on an iPad or Android is approximately
zero.
I don't want' to be limited to firing up my laptop
(Linux/Windows) to use Usenet.
You usta to that all the time! The laptop was so much more convenient than going over to the desktop!
It's like the convenience of streaming music rather than the bother of turning on the amplifier and the CD player, finding the album in your collection, and juggling the disk into the tray, then waiting those endless seconds for it to spin up. I wonder
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
For that matter, has anyone checked what proportion
of the spam is coming through GG?
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:53:23 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
fluid- before starting to play.I don't want' to be limited to firing up my laptop
(Linux/Windows) to use Usenet.
You usta to that all the time! The laptop was so much more convenient than going over to the desktop!
I wonder if today's vinyl aficionados have a ritual like my '80s roommate, starting with taking the record out of its special non-paper sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and using a special cleaning brush -with a couple drops of a special cleaning
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:53:23 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:if today's vinyl aficionados have a ritual like my '80s roommate, starting with taking the record out of its special non-paper sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and using a special cleaning brush -with a couple drops of a special cleaning fluid-
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
He is, I believe, the source of the monthly statistics post.Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
I post mainly through GG. NNTP won't go through
my corporate firewall, and the number of clients
that work on an iPad or Android is approximately
zero.
I don't want' to be limited to firing up my laptopYou usta to that all the time! The laptop was so much more convenient than going over to the desktop!
(Linux/Windows) to use Usenet.
It's like the convenience of streaming music rather than the bother of turning on the amplifier and the CD player, finding the album in your collection, and juggling the disk into the tray, then waiting those endless seconds for it to spin up. I wonder
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
For that matter, has anyone checked what proportion
of the spam is coming through GG?
pt
No, E-S filters all GG stuff for spam. And the spammers have nowI do not think filters are useful. They seem to be just dumping out garbage-- random names and addresses, in obscure fonts and languages. Sometimes it is movie titles. Probably generated by chatGP
switched from slot machines to football.
In article <kr321m...@mid.individual.net>,
Yes, we are currently not accepting articles from both
Google Groups and Abavia because of persistant spam flodding
that is so random that we cannot properly distinguish spam
from non spam articles with our anti spam tools even when
putting in several hours of manual filtering and training
every day, and had to cut off the entire sites.
Disappointing from a user perspective, but at least it's something
they are aware of and are actively involved in.
What was Google's corporate motto again?
In article <kr321mFo60hU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
In article <robertaw-53F13F.09471308112023@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
I sent them an email.
I got back a response, which I have permission to share here:
Yes, we are currently not accepting articles from both
Google Groups and Abavia because of persistant spam flodding
that is so random that we cannot properly distinguish spam
from non spam articles with our anti spam tools even when
putting in several hours of manual filtering and training
every day, and had to cut off the entire sites.
We are aware that is not good solution because we are cutting
off regular users as well, but the disruption caused in
many groups was literally destroying them and causing
multiple complaints.
You might want to check news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for
discussions on that matter or take a look at groups like
comp.lang.c (you need to go back a few days) to see what
spam via Google Groups was doing to the groups and Google
is not stopping this abuse for many weeks.
We are not happy with the solution but it was the best we
could do for the time being.
We will of course lift the ban if Google stops the abuse,
and we are also considering whitelisting based on group (it
seems that they spared rec.arts.sf.written until now) or
based on user.
We are very sorry for inconvenience (and also a bit sad -
we care a lot about Usenet and hate is when people abuse
it), but letting the flooding continue was not an option.
Disappointing from a user perspective, but at least it's something
they are aware of and are actively involved in.
What was Google's corporate motto again?
On Wednesday, 8 November 2023 at 17:47:20 UTC, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
Oh, by the way, I'm not a robot.
I don't know if the mushroom chocolate vendor
is a robot.
On 09/11/2023 08.46, Jack Bohn wrote:cleaning fluid- before starting to play.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:53:23 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't want' to be limited to firing up my laptop
(Linux/Windows) to use Usenet.
You usta to that all the time! The laptop was so much more convenient than going over to the desktop!
I wonder if today's vinyl aficionados have a ritual like my '80s roommate, starting with taking the record out of its special non-paper sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and using a special cleaning brush -with a couple drops of a special
I wouldn't call myself a "vinyl aficionado", but I certainly clean my
LPs before playing them.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:28:25?PM UTC, Robert Carnegie wrote:browser update for it. It looks like I can read Google Groups on it, but the "I am not a robot" dialog fails. So my posting is via a browser on my company laptop, which at least means that browser is bang up to date.
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:I tried to link my Windows XP machine up with Eternal September some time ago and failed. That machine is slowly becoming less and less useful, as it is not only XP, but runs an AMD 64-bit chip without SSE instructions, which means that I cannot get a
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 09:07:31 -0800 (PST), Andrew McDowell <mcdowell_ag@sky.com> wrote:browser update for it. It looks like I can read Google Groups on it, but the "I am not a robot" dialog fails. So my posting is via a browser on my company laptop, which at least means that browser is bang up to date.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:28:25?PM UTC, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:I tried to link my Windows XP machine up with Eternal September some time ago and failed. That machine is slowly becoming less and less useful, as it is not only XP, but runs an AMD 64-bit chip without SSE instructions, which means that I cannot get a
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
In a way, then, I lucked out: My XP machine just plain died (I think motherboard, as there were multiple problems), forcing me to get a new computer. I settled on an HP Envy, an impressive piece of hardware,
that came with Windows 8.1. It won't do Windows 11, but I'll cross
that bridge when I come to it.
Much as would prefer to be running XP, I have to say that Windows 10
does work and is useable.
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
Which field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that
I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know
for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:56:41 PM UTC-5, BCFD36 wrote:
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know
for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
I use GG.
I think if you want to block me, it's the Newsreader identifier header.
Pt
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:56:41?PM UTC-5, BCFD36 wrote:
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know
for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
I use GG.
I think if you want to block me, it's the Newsreader identifier header.
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.89.71.141; posting-account=BUItcQoAAACgV97n05UTyfLcl1Rd4W33
NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.89.71.141
References: <robertaw-53F13F.09471308112023@news.individual.net> <uimu1k$34dqp$1@dont-email.me>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 November 2023 at 17:47:20 UTC, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is not
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
Oh, by the way, I'm not a robot.How do you know? Can any of us be sure that we are not robots?
Better try Ubik.
On 11/10/2023 10:01 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:56:41 PM UTC-5, BCFD36 wrote:
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that >> I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know >> for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts >>> from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check >>> those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I use GG.
I think if you want to block me, it's the Newsreader identifier header.
PtTwo places.
Message ID: <1a35392b-0cad-4da4...@googlegroups.com>
User agent: G2/1.0
If supported I suppose you could also check..
Path: epsilon3.eternal-september.org!!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-
Injection-info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=73.89.71.141; posting-account=BUItcQoAAACgV97n05UTyfLcl1Rd4W33
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:01:34 -0800 (PST), "pete...@gmail.com" <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:56:41?PM UTC-5, BCFD36 wrote:
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that >> I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know >> for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts >> > from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check >> > those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I use GG.
I think if you want to block me, it's the Newsreader identifier header.This (for some reason) was a /lot/ harder than it should have been,
but the headers I see that appear to be possibles are:
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.89.71.141; posting-account=BUItcQoAAACgV97n05UTyfLcl1Rd4W33
NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.89.71.141
References: <robertaw-53F13F...@news.individual.net> <uimu1k$34dqp$1...@dont-email.me>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
I saw no "Newsreader identifier header", but "Injection-Info" appears
to be quite clear. "User-Agent" rather less so.
I kept the two headers in between to avoid confusion by implying that
the two of interest were together.
Interestingly, the ">" on the first line (and so probably the others)
keeps the info on that line, even when wrapping is on. Go figure.
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the
r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts
from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know
for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
Some of this evidence could be forged, I expect.
What if some spam isn't posted through GG
but it is constructed to appear as if it is from GG?
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:28:25 AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie
wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
I post mainly through GG. NNTP won't go through
my corporate firewall, and the number of clients
that work on an iPad or Android is approximately
zero.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:53:23 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com
wrote:
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
He is, I believe, the source of the monthly statistics post.
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
Robert Carnegie wrote:
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 13:02:55 UTC, The Doctor wrote:
Depeer Google GRoups now!
Instead of saying that all the time why don't you
!do something constructive?
Perhaps assess how many group members are
making positive contributions through Google?
Or have you done that?
I don't know about positive contributions, but the most recent
statistics post showed the GG was far and away the most used
newsreader, with almost 37% of the "distinct users" and post volume.
On 11/9/2023 8:50 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
What was Google's corporate motto again?
Google dropped the "Do not evil" a long while ago.
Jack Bohn wrote:
[The Doctor]
He is, I believe, the source of the monthly statistics post.
And that is the only reason that I haven't killfiled him. He has an
annoying habit of responding to spam to inform us that it is spam.
On 11/11/2023 22.58, Default User wrote:
Jack Bohn wrote:
[The Doctor]
He is, I believe, the source of the monthly statistics post.
And that is the only reason that I haven't killfiled him. He has an
annoying habit of responding to spam to inform us that it is spam.
Not only that, but s/he reposts the spam in its entirety!
When I was still a productive member of society, I used GG in the
latter years. At one time I had a contact in company network
maintenance that had drilled a hole through the firewall for NIN.
However, when I left usenet for a time I gave up my account there. When
I came back I didn't feel like seeing if the process would even work.
Default User <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
When I was still a productive member of society, I used GG in the
latter years. At one time I had a contact in company network
maintenance that had drilled a hole through the firewall for NIN.
However, when I left usenet for a time I gave up my account there. When
I came back I didn't feel like seeing if the process would even work.
NIN? The metal band?
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 12:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:01:34 -0800 (PST), "pete...@gmail.com" <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:56:41?PM UTC-5, BCFD36 wrote:
On 11/8/23 09:47, Robert Woodward wrote:
I have discovered that the 'news.individual.net' newserver is notWhich field in the header says "I originated in google groups"? Not that
carrying posts that were posted from Google Groups (at least in the >> > r.a.sf.* hierarchy). I guess that is one way to stop all the spam
originating from Google Groups. But that means that I don't see posts >> > from William Hyde, Andrew McDowell, and others (at least until I check
those newsgroups on the Supernews newserver).
I can set a filter on it with Thunderbird, but it would be nice to know >> for sure. I am thinking it may be in the MessageId field.
I use GG.
I think if you want to block me, it's the Newsreader identifier header. This (for some reason) was a /lot/ harder than it should have been,but the headers I see that appear to be possibles are:
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.89.71.141; posting-account=BUItcQoAAACgV97n05UTyfLcl1Rd4W33
NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.89.71.141
References: <robertaw-53F13F...@news.individual.net> <uimu1k$34dqp$1...@dont-email.me>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
I saw no "Newsreader identifier header", but "Injection-Info" appears
to be quite clear. "User-Agent" rather less so.
I kept the two headers in between to avoid confusion by implying that
the two of interest were together.
Interestingly, the ">" on the first line (and so probably the others) keeps the info on that line, even when wrapping is on. Go figure.I was thinking of the User-Agent: header, but couldn't remember the
correct name. GG removed the ability to see the original text of a message some years ago.
GG isn't a great interface, but I explained my use of it upthread.
I too use GG, partly for your reasons, with a side dish of "I tend
to post from one of three machines - 2 macOS, and 1 Windows",
and I'm just lazy enough to not want to set up all three for the
purpose of posting here.
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