• No Time To Die (US / UK) 2021

    From william ahearn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 9 21:05:09 2021
    Hey,

    Truth be told, I paid to see Dr No in first run. Since I had loved the books, it didn't take any convincing to see it. Loved From Russia With Love as well. Thunderball tossed me out of the franchise and Roger Moore never interested me in anything he was
    in so all those Bonds I caught parts of on TV. Frankly, I found the Bourne franchise -- especially the first two -- way better than any of the modern Bonds.

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit anything -- car chases, sex scenes -- but not random strangers -- and buckets and buckets of maudlin sentimentality.
    This is not the wise-cracking Bond of the Sean Connery era where no one took the films too seriously. It's a violent weepy, too sensitive to stand up straight. You'll probably love it.

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Wed Nov 10 18:35:04 2021
    On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 21:05:09 -0800 (PST), william ahearn wrote:

    Hey,

    Truth be told, I paid to see Dr No in first run. Since I had loved the
    books, it didn't take any convincing to see it. Loved From Russia With
    Love as well. Thunderball tossed me out of the franchise and Roger Moore never interested me in anything he was in so all those Bonds I caught
    parts of on TV. Frankly, I found the Bourne franchise -- especially the
    first two -- way better than any of the modern Bonds.

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit
    anything

    Not true. They must have scored over 100 hits on the Aston. Admittedly it was stationary,
    and one could suggest that the baddies were lucky not to suffer losses in friendly fire
    in this scene. Standing in a circle around the Aston and letting fly doesn't seem a good
    idea. (And why didn't Lead Bad Guy get hit by richochets when he was firing from
    point blank?)

    Anyway, even though there were two fabulous sets of norks on display (That black dress!),
    I managed to fall asleep in the middle hour.

    Oh, and Billie Eilish continues to make me wonder what happened to music? The most insipid
    Bond opening number ever.


    alvey

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to alvey on Wed Nov 10 08:48:34 2021
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 3:35:07 AM UTC-5, alvey wrote:

    Oh, and Billie Eilish continues to make me wonder what happened to music? The most insipid
    Bond opening number ever.

    Thanks, I forgot to mention how forgettable that song is. Or, maybe I didn't have to.

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  • From Bill Anderson@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Sun Nov 14 10:09:15 2021
    On 11/9/2021 11:05 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    Truth be told, I paid to see Dr No in first run. Since I had loved the books, it didn't take any convincing to see it. Loved From Russia With Love as well. Thunderball tossed me out of the franchise and Roger Moore never interested me in anything he
    was in so all those Bonds I caught parts of on TV. Frankly, I found the Bourne franchise -- especially the first two -- way better than any of the modern Bonds.

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit anything -- car chases, sex scenes -- but not random strangers -- and buckets and buckets of maudlin sentimentality.
    This is not the wise-cracking Bond of the Sean Connery era where no one took the films too seriously. It's a violent weepy, too sensitive to stand up straight. You'll probably love it.


    I think Daniel Craig is the only worthy successor to Sean Connery. All
    the others, every single one, were just pretenders. I had always thought Connery could never be approached, and then I saw Craig in Casino
    Royale. He changed my mind.

    On the other hand, while I have admired the new movies with Craig, they
    never dazzled me like the first three Connery movies did. Well, I was a teenager.

    As you indicated, Thunderball was a huge disappointment. Even with the
    later Connery Bonds there was a vast empty James Bond desert until
    Craig's Casino Royale. I thought the Craig movies successfully brought
    James Bond into the 21st century. The old chain-smoking heavy drinking chauvinist James Bond is now an antique, someone to be admired but not
    of this day. I like what the producers did with the Bond mythos. They
    gave him a backstory and even at the end an actual family. Nice, even necessary, I guess. What were they supposed to do, keep making the same
    stupid movie over and over again?

    I admired or at least tolerated No Time To Die. It was fine. I think
    people who prefer the antique James Bond just may be antiques
    themselves. Like me.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Bill Anderson on Sun Nov 14 15:06:01 2021
    On 11/14/2021 11:09 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
    On 11/9/2021 11:05 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    Truth be told, I paid to see Dr No in first run. Since I had loved the
    books, it didn't take any convincing to see it. Loved From Russia With
    Love as well. Thunderball tossed me out of the franchise and Roger
    Moore never interested me in anything he was in so all those Bonds I
    caught parts of on TV. Frankly, I found the Bourne franchise --
    especially the first two -- way better than any of the modern Bonds.

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a
    million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit
    anything -- car chases, sex scenes -- but not random strangers -- and
    buckets and buckets of maudlin sentimentality. This is not the
    wise-cracking Bond of the Sean Connery era where no one took the films
    too seriously. It's a violent weepy, too sensitive to stand up
    straight. You'll probably love it.


    I think Daniel Craig is the only worthy successor to Sean Connery. All
    the others, every single one, were just pretenders. I had always thought Connery could never be approached, and then I saw Craig in Casino
    Royale. He changed my mind.

    On the other hand, while I have admired the new movies with Craig, they
    never dazzled me like the first three Connery movies did. Well, I was a teenager.

    As you indicated, Thunderball was a huge disappointment. Even with the
    later Connery Bonds there was a vast empty James Bond desert until
    Craig's Casino Royale.  I thought the Craig movies successfully brought James Bond into the 21st century. The old chain-smoking heavy drinking chauvinist James Bond is now an antique, someone to be admired but not
    of this day. I like what the producers did with the Bond mythos. They
    gave him a backstory and even at the end an actual family. Nice, even necessary, I guess. What were they supposed to do, keep making the same stupid movie over and over again?

    I admired or at least tolerated No Time To Die. It was fine. I think
    people who prefer the antique James Bond just may be antiques
    themselves. Like me.

    I remember a couple of dozen scenes from those first 3 Connerys, while,
    from the entire Moore oeuvre it's maybe 1 ("Butterhook"). As you
    suggest, age (mine and Bond's) may have much to do with it, but still...

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Mon Nov 15 14:51:08 2021
    On 11/10/2021 10:48 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 3:35:07 AM UTC-5, alvey wrote:

    Oh, and Billie Eilish continues to make me wonder what happened to music? The most insipid
    Bond opening number ever.

    Thanks, I forgot to mention how forgettable that song is. Or, maybe I didn't have to.


    Perhaps you never heard the Adele song.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Mon Nov 15 16:44:02 2021
    In article <6dfcfd41-28c4-46d3-b6ca-a3278a212900n@googlegroups.com>,
    william ahearn <wlahearn@gmail.com> wrote:

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit anything -- car chases, sex scenes -- but not random strangers -- and buckets and buckets of maudlin sentimentality. This is not the wise-cracking Bond of the Sean Connery era where no one took the films too seriously. It's a violent weepy, too sensitive to stand up straight. You'll probably love it.

    Isn't this one 2 hrs. and 45 minutes or close? That must be a record
    length for Bond films. Think I'll wait for the DVD/Blu-Ray.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to wlah...@gmail.com on Tue Nov 16 16:39:24 2021
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 00:05:10 UTC-5, wlah...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hey,

    Truth be told, I paid to see Dr No in first run. Since I had loved the books, it didn't take any convincing to see it. Loved From Russia With Love as well. Thunderball tossed me out of the franchise and Roger Moore never interested me in anything he
    was in so all those Bonds I caught parts of on TV. Frankly, I found the Bourne franchise -- especially the first two -- way better than any of the modern Bonds.

    This Bond movie has plenty of action, an Aston Martin, shoot-outs -- a million bad guys with a million automatic weapons still can't hit anything -- car chases, sex scenes -- but not random strangers -- and buckets and buckets of maudlin sentimentality.
    This is not the wise-cracking Bond of the Sean Connery era where no one took the films too seriously. It's a violent weepy, too sensitive to stand up straight. You'll probably love it.

    To quote the kid from that A.S. movie, "Last Action Hero" "-you turned him into a wimp!'

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