• Re: ABC's Wizard Of Oz Remake Will Have LGBTQ Representation, Writer An

    From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Sep 26 10:55:30 2022
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    An upcoming remake for the beloved classic, “The Wizard of Oz,” will be taking audiences over the rainbow once more – this time sporting a pride flag.

    Writer and director Kenya Barris, the mastermind behind ABC’s “Black-ish,” confirmed that his take on “Oz” will include LGBTQ+ representation to “tell a
    story that reflects our world,” he said, according to Variety.

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris told Variety. “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now
    and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world. I think this is the best time to do that,” he concluded.


    As if there was actually any time that was good.


    Kenya Barris Says ‘Wizard of Oz’ Remake Will Include

    Named after the birthplace of one of our worst presidents!


    LGBTQ
    Representation to ‘Reflect the World’ https://t.co/wEnzNXNIc9

    — Variety (@Variety) September 21, 2022

    There have been many films that dabbled in the wonderful Land of Oz over the years; “The Wiz” and “Wicked” being among the most popular outside of Victor
    Fleming’s 1939 classic film that made Judy Garland a star, according to Town & Country.

    Barris admits that remaking the film with a modern perspective will not be without its challenges. “I’m nervous,” Barris said, according to Variety. “Hopefully, my movie can last as long as the original does. Hopefully my movie comes out.”

    Hopefully this is the last we ever hear of it



    Barris’ film for Warner Bros. is not the only “Oz” adaptation currently in the works. New Line announced they too would be off to see the wizard in an adaption based on L. Frank Baum’s book and directed by Nicole Kassell, according to Town & Country.

    “While the 1939 musical is part of my DNA, I am exhilarated and humbled by the responsibility of re-imagining such a legendary tale. The opportunity to examine the original themes —the quest for courage, love, wisdom and home — feels more timely and urgent than ever. These are profoundly iconic shoes to fill, and I am eager to dance alongside these heroes of my childhood as we pave a newly minted yellow brick road!,” Kassel said in a statement last year, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

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    So here’s a serious question. Haven’t gay people been referred to as “friends of Dorothy“ forever? Where does that come from?



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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Mon Sep 26 15:03:00 2022
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    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:

    So here's a serious question. Haven't gay people been referred to
    as “friends of Dorothy“ forever? Where does that come from?

    I am not sure, but she was played by Judy Garland, who is popular
    with us for some reason.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Sep 26 12:28:11 2022
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:

    So here's a serious question. Haven't gay people been referred to
    as “friends of Dorothy“ forever? Where does that come from?

    I am not sure, but she was played by Judy Garland, who is popular
    with us for some reason.

    OK. So maybe it should really be “friends of Judy“?



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  • From Alan Smithee@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Sep 26 17:35:17 2022
    On 09/26/2022 04:03 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:

    So here's a serious question. Haven't gay people been referred to
    as "friends of Dorothy" forever? Where does that come from?

    I am not sure, but she was played by Judy Garland, who is popular with us for some reason.

    JG even had her own talk show back in the 50s. She interviewed Dean
    Martin in one ep.

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Sun Oct 2 16:36:06 2022
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    On 2022-09-26 at 14:28:11 CDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:

    So here's a serious question. Haven't gay people been referred to
    as “friends of Dorothy“ forever? Where does that come from?

    I am not sure, but she was played by Judy Garland, who is popular
    with us for some reason.

    OK. So maybe it should really be “friends of Judy“?

    Friends of Dorothy

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Oct 2 16:44:53 2022
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    On 2022-09-26 at 12:34:03 CDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    There have been many films that dabbled in the wonderful Land of Oz over the years; “The Wiz” and “Wicked” being among the most popular outside of Victor
    Fleming’s 1939 classic film that made Judy Garland a star, according to Town
    & Country.

    And at least two relatively recent TV series.

    Tin Man (2007)
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910812/reference/>

    Emerald City (2016)
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3579018/reference/>

    They were at least interesting, if not really all that good. This thing is likely to be a ponderous political snoozefest. I could go for Hillary was the Wicked Witch of Westchester. Instead, it will probably be a thinly-veiled Marjorie Taylor Green.

    With any luck, it will flop hard, a signpost of the end of the Gay Political Moment.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Oct 10 22:47:51 2022
    On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 13:34:07 UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
    An upcoming remake for the beloved classic, “The Wizard of Oz,” will be taking audiences over the rainbow once more – this time sporting a pride

    Let's go Brandon!

    The original didn't really reference sexuality at all. Why do these queers need to?

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Oct 11 11:10:37 2022
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    The original didn't really reference sexuality at all. Why do these
    queers need to?

    The original book series is full of symbolism and allegories, and people
    have been trying to understand the hidden political messages for over a century. Politics isn't sexuality, but one of today's hottest political subjects is sexuality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz
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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Tue Oct 11 10:44:21 2022
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    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    So here’s a serious question. Haven’t gay people been referred to as “friends of Dorothy“ forever? Where does that come from?

    In gay slang, a "friend of Dorothy" (FOD) is a gay man; and more
    broadly, any LGBTQ person. Stating that, or asking if, someone was
    a friend of Dorothy was a furtive shibboleth used for discussing
    sexual orientation while avoiding hostility. The term was likely
    based on the character Dorothy Gale of the Oz series of novels,
    which have been interpreted as including much queer subtext.
    Actress Judy Garland, who portrayed Dorothy in the 1939 Wizard of
    Oz film, is considered a gay icon. Writer and critic Dorothy
    Parker is thought to be another potential origin of the term.
    -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_Dorothy
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Oct 11 04:47:10 2022
    On 10/11/2022 12:47 AM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 13:34:07 UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
    An upcoming remake for the beloved classic, “The Wizard of Oz,” will be >> taking audiences over the rainbow once more – this time sporting a pride

    Let's go Brandon!

    The original didn't really reference sexuality at all. Why do these queers need to?


    Sounds like you should do some more research, unless your goal was just
    to whine like a bitch on an internet forum.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Wed Oct 19 15:57:32 2022
    On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 13:34:07 UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
    An upcoming remake for the beloved classic, “The Wizard of Oz,” will be taking audiences over the rainbow once more – this time sporting a pride flag.

    Writer and director Kenya Barris, the mastermind behind ABC’s “Black-ish,”
    confirmed that his take on “Oz” will include LGBTQ+ representation to “tell a
    story that reflects our world,” he said, according to Variety.

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris told Variety. “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now
    and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ community, from different cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that reflects the world. I think this is the best time to do that,” he concluded.

    Kenya Barris Says ‘Wizard of Oz’ Remake Will Include LGBTQ Representation to ‘Reflect the World’ https://t.co/wEnzNXNIc9

    — Variety (@Variety) September 21, 2022

    There have been many films that dabbled in the wonderful Land of Oz over the years; “The Wiz” and “Wicked” being among the most popular outside of Victor
    Fleming’s 1939 classic film that made Judy Garland a star, according to Town
    & Country.

    Barris admits that remaking the film with a modern perspective will not be without its challenges. “I’m nervous,” Barris said, according to Variety.
    “Hopefully, my movie can last as long as the original does. Hopefully my movie comes out.”

    Barris’ film for Warner Bros. is not the only “Oz” adaptation currently in
    the works. New Line announced they too would be off to see the wizard in an adaption based on L. Frank Baum’s book and directed by Nicole Kassell, according to Town & Country.

    “While the 1939 musical is part of my DNA, I am exhilarated and humbled by the responsibility of re-imagining such a legendary tale. The opportunity to examine the original themes —the quest for courage, love, wisdom and home —
    feels more timely and urgent than ever. These are profoundly iconic shoes to fill, and I am eager to dance alongside these heroes of my childhood as we pave a newly minted yellow brick road!,” Kassel said in a statement last year, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    Which of the creatures will ask the wizard for a sex-change?

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Oct 22 04:15:14 2022
    On 10/19/2022 5:57 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 13:34:07 UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
    An upcoming remake for the beloved classic, “The Wizard of Oz,” will be >> taking audiences over the rainbow once more – this time sporting a pride >> flag.

    Writer and director Kenya Barris, the mastermind behind ABC’s “Black-ish,”
    confirmed that his take on “Oz” will include LGBTQ+ representation to “tell a
    story that reflects our world,” he said, according to Variety.

    “The original was an allegory and a reflection of the way the world was at >> the time with things like the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl,” Barris >> told Variety. “Now we’re going to turn a mirror on where we’re at right now
    and take disparate characters from the LGBTQ community, from different
    cultural communities and socioeconomic communities, and tell a story that
    reflects the world. I think this is the best time to do that,” he concluded.

    Kenya Barris Says ‘Wizard of Oz’ Remake Will Include LGBTQ
    Representation to ‘Reflect the World’ https://t.co/wEnzNXNIc9

    — Variety (@Variety) September 21, 2022

    There have been many films that dabbled in the wonderful Land of Oz over the >> years; “The Wiz” and “Wicked” being among the most popular outside of Victor
    Fleming’s 1939 classic film that made Judy Garland a star, according to Town
    & Country.

    Barris admits that remaking the film with a modern perspective will not be >> without its challenges. “I’m nervous,” Barris said, according to Variety.
    “Hopefully, my movie can last as long as the original does. Hopefully my >> movie comes out.”

    Barris’ film for Warner Bros. is not the only “Oz” adaptation currently in
    the works. New Line announced they too would be off to see the wizard in an >> adaption based on L. Frank Baum’s book and directed by Nicole Kassell,
    according to Town & Country.

    “While the 1939 musical is part of my DNA, I am exhilarated and humbled by >> the responsibility of re-imagining such a legendary tale. The opportunity to >> examine the original themes —the quest for courage, love, wisdom and home —
    feels more timely and urgent than ever. These are profoundly iconic shoes to >> fill, and I am eager to dance alongside these heroes of my childhood as we >> pave a newly minted yellow brick road!,” Kassel said in a statement last >> year, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

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    Let's go Brandon!

    Which of the creatures will ask the wizard for a sex-change?


    The anonyshit character.

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