• Nope (US) 2022

    From william ahearn@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 5 15:42:37 2022
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Sat Aug 6 14:30:02 2022
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.


    Oh no, I agree with Billy Ahearn! Accurate description of a really well
    made movie.

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  • From Bill Anderson@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Sat Aug 27 11:40:21 2022
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

    I enjoyed it but not as much as I'd hoped because so many parts of the
    story just lay there disconnected. (And now I've just deleted a
    paragraph describing what I mean because it gave away too much plot.
    I'll just say generally that the amusement park looked distractingly
    phony and the park owner belonged in a different movie with his own plot.)

    Still, the movie entertained and a few small touches were quite funny.
    Daniel Kaluuya and Keke Palmer were excellent as the taciturn brother
    and the ebullient sister, and Brandon Perea was charming as the Fry's
    version of a Best Buy Geek Squad technician. I liked the cast.

    But I still say the plot should've been tighter. Oh, sure, go on, give
    it a look. It's sufficiently engaging. And then it would be great if you
    would please explain to me why this "unraveled" movie needed that
    chimpanzee.

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@21:1/5 to Bill Anderson on Sat Aug 27 12:28:38 2022
    On 8/27/2022 9:40 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to
    see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good
    story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

    I enjoyed it but not as much as I'd hoped because so many parts of the
    story just lay there disconnected. (And now I've just deleted a
    paragraph describing what I mean because it gave away too much plot.
    I'll just say generally that the amusement park looked distractingly
    phony and the park owner belonged in a different movie with his own plot.)

    Still, the movie entertained and a few small touches were quite funny.
    Daniel Kaluuya and Keke Palmer were excellent as the taciturn brother
    and the ebullient sister, and Brandon Perea was charming as the Fry's
    version of a Best Buy Geek Squad technician.  I liked the cast.

    But I still say the plot should've been tighter. Oh, sure, go on, give
    it a look. It's sufficiently engaging. And then it would be great if you would please explain to me why this "unraveled" movie needed that
    chimpanzee.



    I had a very similar reaction the first time I saw it. Then I saw it a
    second time and understood it better. I didn't necessarily like it
    more, but I understood how it all tied together.

    The reoccurring theme involves people trying to tame wild creatures for
    their own use and things going horribly wrong as a result. That's how
    the chimpanzee ties in.

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  • From Bill Anderson@21:1/5 to Arthur Lipscomb on Sun Aug 28 13:42:48 2022
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 8/27/2022 9:40 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to
    see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good
    story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

    I enjoyed it but not as much as I'd hoped because so many parts of the
    story just lay there disconnected. (And now I've just deleted a
    paragraph describing what I mean because it gave away too much plot.
    I'll just say generally that the amusement park looked distractingly
    phony and the park owner belonged in a different movie with his own plot.) >>
    Still, the movie entertained and a few small touches were quite funny.
    Daniel Kaluuya and Keke Palmer were excellent as the taciturn brother
    and the ebullient sister, and Brandon Perea was charming as the Fry's
    version of a Best Buy Geek Squad technician.  I liked the cast.

    But I still say the plot should've been tighter. Oh, sure, go on, give
    it a look. It's sufficiently engaging. And then it would be great if you
    would please explain to me why this "unraveled" movie needed that
    chimpanzee.



    I had a very similar reaction the first time I saw it. Then I saw it a second time and understood it better. I didn't necessarily like it
    more, but I understood how it all tied together.

    The reoccurring theme involves people trying to tame wild creatures for
    their own use and things going horribly wrong as a result. That's how
    the chimpanzee ties in.


    SPOILERS BELOW!!

    I agree that one recurring theme involved the unpredictability of animals, their failure to do what their “masters“ want them to do. OK, animals are unpredictable, even domesticated ones like the horse. Don’t we all know
    that? So maybe we learned something more insightful about this from the
    movie? What exactly? Are we guilty of something? We saw that animals are unpredictable and that fact just lay there.

    Another recurring theme involved the willingness of people to chase fame at
    any cost. The motorcyclist from TMZ was lying there incapacitated and all
    he could think about was getting a good camera shot of his body in the
    road. The main characters wanted to impress Oprah. The amusement park owner clung to his childhood fame and was willing to put innocent lives in danger
    in hopes of reclaiming it. The documentarian was so obsessed with
    impressing the world with a shot of something no one had ever seen before
    that he was willing to be gobbled up. Are people who chase fame guilty of something? What exactly? Should people not chase fame? Should they be
    punished for it as they were in this movie? We saw that people chase fame,
    yes they do indeed, and that fact just lay there.

    But I did enjoy the movie and I do enjoy thinking about it. It’s just that the more I think about it, the shallower and less cohesive it seems.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to wlah...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 30 23:15:18 2022
    On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 18:42:38 UTC-4, wlah...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

    SPOILER















    Why would O.J. be so down and out? His father was killed by debris falling from a plane, the airline would have been sued and would have lost.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Mon Sep 5 08:11:06 2022
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.


    It was good, but you would think a cinephile like yourself would be more observant. There were many good elements to the movie but the directing
    itself was fucking fantastic. Every shot of this film was well composed
    and well chosen. And it moved at amazingly quick pace. And used the
    F/X extremely well. And showcased the actors extremely well. Oscar
    caliber in my opinion, although I don't think the Academy will be smart
    enough to pick up on this.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to Bill Anderson on Mon Sep 5 08:24:42 2022
    On 8/28/2022 8:42 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 8/27/2022 9:40 AM, Bill Anderson wrote:
    On 8/5/2022 5:42 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    Hey,

    The best new US film that I've seen in a while. Gonna see it again to
    see if I love it. It's a sci-fi story out west in modern times. Good
    story that unravels rather than plotted. Really good.

    I enjoyed it but not as much as I'd hoped because so many parts of the
    story just lay there disconnected. (And now I've just deleted a
    paragraph describing what I mean because it gave away too much plot.
    I'll just say generally that the amusement park looked distractingly
    phony and the park owner belonged in a different movie with his own plot.) >>>
    Still, the movie entertained and a few small touches were quite funny.
    Daniel Kaluuya and Keke Palmer were excellent as the taciturn brother
    and the ebullient sister, and Brandon Perea was charming as the Fry's
    version of a Best Buy Geek Squad technician.  I liked the cast.

    But I still say the plot should've been tighter. Oh, sure, go on, give
    it a look. It's sufficiently engaging. And then it would be great if you >>> would please explain to me why this "unraveled" movie needed that
    chimpanzee.



    I had a very similar reaction the first time I saw it. Then I saw it a
    second time and understood it better. I didn't necessarily like it
    more, but I understood how it all tied together.

    The reoccurring theme involves people trying to tame wild creatures for
    their own use and things going horribly wrong as a result. That's how
    the chimpanzee ties in.


    SPOILERS BELOW!!

    I agree that one recurring theme involved the unpredictability of animals, their failure to do what their “masters“ want them to do. OK, animals are unpredictable, even domesticated ones like the horse. Don’t we all know that? So maybe we learned something more insightful about this from the movie? What exactly? Are we guilty of something? We saw that animals are unpredictable and that fact just lay there.

    Another recurring theme involved the willingness of people to chase fame at any cost. The motorcyclist from TMZ was lying there incapacitated and all
    he could think about was getting a good camera shot of his body in the
    road. The main characters wanted to impress Oprah. The amusement park owner clung to his childhood fame and was willing to put innocent lives in danger in hopes of reclaiming it. The documentarian was so obsessed with
    impressing the world with a shot of something no one had ever seen before that he was willing to be gobbled up. Are people who chase fame guilty of something? What exactly? Should people not chase fame? Should they be punished for it as they were in this movie? We saw that people chase fame, yes they do indeed, and that fact just lay there.

    But I did enjoy the movie and I do enjoy thinking about it. It’s just that the more I think about it, the shallower and less cohesive it seems.


    You're like a Pavlov's dog. Shallower and less cohesive than what? Few
    films in recent memory invite discussion like this. And yet, this being
    the internet, you had to finish with something shitty! Pavlov would
    have love it, classical conditioning at its best.

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