In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big
exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can
run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a natural-born
citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to
overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other
provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore to
uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: ?oNo person
shall?hold an office, civil or military, under the United
States?who, having
previously taken an oath?to support the Constitution of the United
States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or
given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.?
Then Congress added an important final clause: ?oBut Congress may by a
vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump ?oengage in
insurrection? and/or ?ogive comfort to? those who did? Absolutely.
Even though
not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Scout wrote on 1/8/2024 12:14 PM:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big
exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a
natural-born
citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to
overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other
provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who
swore to
uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: ?oNo person >>>> shall??hold an office, civil or military, under the United
States??who, having
previously taken an oath??to support the Constitution of the
United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,
or given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.?
Then Congress added an important final clause: ?oBut Congress may
by a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump
?oengage in
insurrection? and/or ?ogive comfort to? those who did?
Absolutely. Even though
not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not
require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such
as say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from
foreign powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
Heck. seems to me given this as a standard we can accuse any
politician and get them removed from the ballot.
Trump has committed high treason, while what you accused Biden of is misdemeanor, and you cannot charge a sitting president. You must be
stupid. LOL
In article <mxWmN.48808$TSTa.9843@fx47.iad>, klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com says...
Scout wrote on 1/8/2024 12:14 PM:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and
who cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big
exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three.
Anybody can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a
natural-born
citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14
years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test.
Not wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt
to overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other
provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who
swore to
uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: ?oNo
person shall??hold an office, civil or military, under the
United States??who, having
previously taken an oath??to support the Constitution of the
United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the
same, or given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.?
Then Congress added an important final clause: ?oBut Congress
may by a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump
?oengage in
insurrection? and/or ?ogive comfort to? those who did?
Absolutely. Even though
not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not
require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony..
such as say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly
from foreign powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the
ballot?
Heck. seems to me given this as a standard we can accuse any
politician and get them removed from the ballot.
Trump has committed high treason, while what you accused Biden of is
misdemeanor, and you cannot charge a sitting president. You must be
stupid. LOL
Why isn't Trump in jail?
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are
a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then
sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: “No
person shall…hold an office, civil or military, under the United
States…who, having previously taken an oath…to support the
Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
to the enemies thereof.”
Then Congress added an important final clause: “But Congress may
by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump “engage
in insurrection” and/or “give comfort to” those who did?
Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
Constitution does not require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
--
Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me:
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com14.3 is not a punishment or trial - it is requirements for office, Do we need "due process" for the age requirement? Or "due process" for the
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are
a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then
sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: ?oNo
person shall?hold an office, civil or military, under the United
States?who, having previously taken an oath?to support the
Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
to the enemies thereof.?
Then Congress added an important final clause: ?oBut Congress may
by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump ?oengage
in insurrection? and/or ?ogive comfort to? those who did?
Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
Constitution does not require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
--
Let's go Brandon!
Natural Born Citizen requirement?
Scout wrote on 1/8/2024 12:14 PM:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big
exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can >>>>> run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a
natural-born
citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to
overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other
provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore >>>>> to
uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo person >>>>> shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United
Statesâ?¦who, having
previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the Constitution of the United >>>>> States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or >>>>> given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may by >>>>> a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage >>>>> in
insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did?
Absolutely. Even though
not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not
require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such as
say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from foreign
powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
Heck. seems to me given this as a standard we can accuse any politician
and get them removed from the ballot.
Trump has committed high treason,
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mxWmN.48808$TSTa.9843@fx47.iad...
Scout wrote on 1/8/2024 12:14 PM:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com wrote: >>>>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who cannot. ItSo much for due process.
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a natural-born >>>>>> citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years. >>>>>>
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore to >>>>>> uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo person >>>>>> shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United Statesâ?¦who,
having
previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may by a >>>>>> vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage in >>>>>> insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did? Absolutely.
Even though
not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not require), >>>>>
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such as >>> say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from foreign >>> powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
Heck. seems to me given this as a standard we can accuse any politician and >>> get them removed from the ballot.
Trump has committed high treason,
And yet you can't prove he has committed any crime
"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:unho1a$1m229$1@dont-email.me...
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me:
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com14.3 is not a punishment or trial - it is requirements for office, Do we >> need "due process" for the age requirement? Or "due process" for the
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are >>>>> a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for at
least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and then >>>>> sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo
person shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United >>>>> Statesâ?¦who, having previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the
Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in
insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort
to the enemies thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may
by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage >>>>> in insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did?
Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing so (which the
Constitution does not require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
--
Let's go Brandon!
Natural Born Citizen requirement?
Actually we do
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com wrote: >>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big exceptions. >>>>
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a natural-born >>>> citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not wanting >>>> this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore to >>>> uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo person >>>> shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the United Statesâ?¦who,
having
previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given >>>> aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may by a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage in >>>> insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did? Absolutely. Even
though not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not require),
So much for due process.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such as say...
money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from foreign powers.. that
they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
On 1/8/2024 9:14 AM, scooter lied:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old,
are a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for
at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment
which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any
federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and
then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo
person shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the
United Statesâ?¦who, having
previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the Constitution of the
United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion
against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies
thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress
may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such
disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump
â?oengage in insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ?
those who did? Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing
so (which the Constitution does not require),
Correct.
So much for due process.
Due process is being observed.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Bullshit.
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such
as say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from
foreign powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the
ballot?
No, scooter. No one is seeking to remove Trump from the ballot due to commission of a felony. We are seeking Trump's removal because of his non-felonious engagement in insurrection. That is the only
disqualification addressed in 14.3, scooter.
In article <m5dnN.38801$Xs07.37905@fx06.ams1>, junk@LCMS_shitbags.org
says...
On 1/8/2024 9:14 AM, scooter lied:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com wrote: >>>>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a natural-born >>>>>> citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years. >>>>>>
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore to >>>>>> uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo person >>>>>> shallâ??hold an office, civil or military, under the United Statesâ??who,
having
previously taken an oathâ??to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress may by a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump â?oengage in >>>>>> insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ? those who did? Absolutely. Even
though not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not require),
Correct.
So much for due process.
Due process is being observed.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Bullshit.
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such as say...
money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from foreign powers.. that
they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
No, scooter. No one is seeking to remove Trump from the ballot due to commission
of a felony. We are seeking Trump's removal because of his non-felonious
engagement in insurrection. That is the only disqualification addressed in 14.3,
scooter.
But there was no insurrection.
On 1/8/2024 9:14 AM, scooter lied:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com wrote: >>> On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who cannot. It
says any American citizen can run for president, with four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody can run for
president as long as they are at least 35 years old, are a natural-born >>>> citizen and have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not wanting
this country to fear that federal officials might again attempt to overthrow
the government, they added the 14th Amendment which, among other provisions,
disqualifies as a candidate for any federal office anybody who swore to >>>> uphold the Constitution and then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: ?oNo person >>>> shall??hold an office, civil or military, under the United States??who,
having
previously taken an oath??to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given
aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.?
Then Congress added an important final clause: ?oBut Congress may by a vote of
two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump ?oengage in >>>> insurrection? and/or ?ogive comfort to? those who did? Absolutely. Even
though not yet convicted of doing so (which the Constitution does not require),
Correct.
So much for due process.
Due process is being observed.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Bullshit.
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such as say...
money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from foreign powers.. that
they would have to remove Biden from the ballot?
No, scooter. No one is seeking to remove Trump from the ballot due to commission
of a felony. We are seeking Trump's removal because of his non-felonious engagement in insurrection. That is the only disqualification addressed in 14.3,
scooter.
David Hartung <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in news:m5dnN.38801$Xs07.37905@fx06.ams1:
On 1/8/2024 9:14 AM, scooter lied:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:unh8ms$1jk6b$4@dont-email.me...
In article <un441f$3958o$1@dont-email.me>, R.Peters@isjoebiden.com
wrote:
On 1/3/2024 11:17 AM, Real American 1944 wrote:
The Constitution is clear about who can run for president and who
cannot. It says any American citizen can run for president, with
four big exceptions.
Article II of the Constitution lays down the first three. Anybody
can run for president as long as they are at least 35 years old,
are a natural-born citizen and have lived in the United States for >>>>>> at least 14 years.
After the Civil War, members of Congress added a fourth test. Not
wanting this country to fear that federal officials might again
attempt to overthrow the government, they added the 14th Amendment >>>>>> which, among other provisions, disqualifies as a candidate for any >>>>>> federal office anybody who swore to uphold the Constitution and
then sought to overturn it.
The language of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is clear: â?oNo
person shallâ?¦hold an office, civil or military, under the
United Statesâ?¦who, having
previously taken an oathâ?¦to support the Constitution of the
United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion
against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies
thereof.â?
Then Congress added an important final clause: â?oBut Congress
may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such
disability.â?
Which leaves only three questions. First: Did Donald Trump
â?oengage in insurrectionâ? and/or â?ogive comfort toâ?
those who did? Absolutely. Even though not yet convicted of doing
so (which the Constitution does not require),
Correct.
So much for due process.
Due process is being observed.
Welcome to Ameritopia, the Banana Republic!
Bullshit.
Hmmm. does this mean if I were to accuse Joe Biden of a felony.. such
as say... money laundering, or undisclosed income particularly from
foreign powers.. that they would have to remove Biden from the
ballot?
No, scooter. No one is seeking to remove Trump from the ballot due to
commission of a felony. We are seeking Trump's removal because of his
non-felonious engagement in insurrection.
That is the only
disqualification addressed in 14.3, scooter.
It's not removal - it's bar to entry.
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