OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
On Aug 25, 2023, NancyGene wrote
(in article<02b1d131-d689-4f3d...@googlegroups.com>):
How do you think he was posting before if he wasn't "subscribed to the newsgroup?”I was posting to the group but wasn’t reading it, wasn’t checking
it for followups, in my recent posts, until last night. That is
possible with a newsreader (I use Hogwasher in St. John’s
and MT-NewsWatcher in Lake View) but less likely with
google groups (which I rarely use). I was checking some
of the other groups I crossposted (not possible on google
groups any more) to, including rec.arts.poems.
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:* certain other groups.
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
--Excellent. I look forward to seeing you appear here more often.
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)
There's not much interaction over here at RAP, but it's much more congenial than the negative interaction at
David Dalton wrote:
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
Good afternoon and looking forward to reading your poetry, D.D.
On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
(in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
Be gone, lunatic.
I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
Then why have I not generated a significant body of
poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
cycles).
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
(in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
Be gone, lunatic.
I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
Then why have I not generated a significant body of
poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence. However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
cycles).
--Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup.
Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.
We post and discuss poetryIt's obvious who the "malicious troll" is.As you, NancyGene and your ilk have proudly shown yourselves to be countless times, Pendragon.
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:09:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:57:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: >> > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
As well as post malicious attack threads and other Troll foolishness.We post and discuss poetryAs you, NancyGene and your ilk have proudly shown yourselves to be countless times, Pendragon.I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate >> > > > > > > derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls
My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
Then why have I not generated a significant body of
poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence. >> > > > > > > However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
cycles).
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup.. >> > > > > >
Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.
It's obvious who the "malicious troll" is.
And so it goes.
I proposed a peace treaty
If you had been paying attention, I was actually complying with all your points.
HTH and HAND.
That's what I said
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
(in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
Be gone, lunatic.
I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
Then why have I not generated a significant body of
poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
cycles).
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) >> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup a.
Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.
On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
(in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
IOW: You're unemployed.
My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved
time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and
possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
You should realize that a number of historical poets have
also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
fruitcakes as well?
--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
(in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
IOW: You're unemployed.
My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved
time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and
possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
This is the first I've seen of David Fruitcake's reply. His post was from 12:41am. Those of us who work tend to go to bed before that time.You should realize that a number of historical poets haveWell put, David, and I notice that you've only received crickets in response so far.
also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
fruitcakes as well?
No, David, I would not call poets who are also mystics fruitcakes.
I happen to be a poet who is also a mystic.
Your friends Will and Zod call me "Voodoo Boy" and accuse me of being "delusional" for believing in, and practicing, Magick.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:24:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:59:16 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
(in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
IOW: You're unemployed.
My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
This is the first I've seen of David Fruitcake's reply. His post was from 12:41am. Those of us who work tend to go to bed before that time.You should realize that a number of historical poets haveWell put, David, and I notice that you've only received crickets in response so far.
also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
fruitcakes as well?
No, David, I would not call poets who are also mystics fruitcakes.
I happen to be a poet who is also a mystic.
Ask the late Stephan PickeringYour friends Will and Zod call me "Voodoo Boy" and accuse me of being "delusional" for believing in, and practicing, Magick.When you were casting death curse on Zod and others you did look s little bit crazy and delusional, Pendragon.
A death curse is no less real than any other form of magick.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:05:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Pendragon, your biggest delusion is that you believe you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot.
And if your death spell is for real, the fact remains that years later, the target of your bogus curse is alive and well.
And so it goes.Spells don't always work
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 11:38:35 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 12, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
(in article<e72c9859-86f2-48a2...@googlegroups.com>):
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:21 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote: >> > > On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wroteI am not trying to make the world more Pagan, as I
(in article<ff800f4a-fad9-496c...@googlegroups.com>):
I didn't call you a fruitcake because of your Druidic religion. I calledObviously I am not doing my magick through Usenet, I am
you
a fruitcake because you believe that cross-posting your beliefs to a >> > > > handful
of Usenet groups (Usenet has been on life support for the past 20 years) is
somehow going to usher in a new age of Paganism.
Anyone who thinks that posting on Usenet is going to change the world, is
totally crackers. It is indicative of a self-absorbed, narcissistic psyche
with (obvious) delusions of grandeur. The world doesn't revolve around >> > > > Usenet, much less David Dalton.
reporting on it on Usenet, where I had far more readers
twenty years ago than I do now. And I don’t have
delusions of grandeur, I underwent an anointing by
the divine that effectively augmented my higher
dimensional body, and I am attempting to instigate
change by “flapping my higher dimensional butterfly
wings” (as I put it to atheists) or you can look at it
as a complicated prayer in which I have done much
of the groundwork over decades.
And how is that working out for you?
Your Usenet readership had dropped considerably (according to you), and the
world doesn't seem to be any more Pagan than it did 20 years ago.
indicated in Nancy’s Nutter thread in a slightly different
followup in which I expanded on the above. I
would have preferred that Will hadn’t duplicated the thread;
perhaps he thought I had killfiled Nancy and followups
to her posts.
Will claims that NancyGene and I are "malicious trolls"
refuses to respond to posts in any of our threads.
This created a problem for Will because he also feels compelled to "set the record straight" by responding to our "lies."
Will solved the problem by 1) responding to the posts in our threads, and then, 2) copy/pasting them to a new thread.
It doesn't actually resolve anything
Why can’t you just skip the posts of those you don’t wantBut all you're doing is pissing off 5 or 6 people in a group with less >> > > > than aWith you who are easily pissed off as a welcoming committee,
dozen members. You might as well sound off in your local supermarket for
all
the good that it's accomplishing.
I bet that many prospective regulars don’t stick around
and learn the ropes of the group.
You'd lose.
Most prospective readers get sick to death of wading through 40 "Hello Jordy"
posts a day (and other off-topic bullshit).
Here's the straight dope:
AAPC is in a state of war between the poets (who want to use it as a poetry
discussion group) and Will Dockery who wants to use it as his personal
webpage.
to read? That is one advantage of Usenet, you
have a list of subject lines with names of posters,
and you can skip over them even in google groups and
killfile them if you have a good newsreader. I
read less than 5% of posts on alt.atheism.
We do.
I use Google Groups (I find it much more user friendly than newsreaders), but I block/report
The problem is that some of us want to attract new members to the group.
Several years ago (seven?) Jim Senetto got the idea to start a thread where everyone could stop their fighting and post a poem each week
Will couldn't stand for this, and started picking fights with Jim
Will got back to his old tricks: picking fights with Jim
In the ensuing flame wars more members left -- including Jim
My goal is to attract new poets
I’l try to be on-topic when posting to this newsgroup but I
Over the course of the past 25 year, Will has managed to drive all of the >> > poets away at least twice. He does this by spamming AAPC with b.s. posts, >> > burying everyone else's poetry and conversations, picking fights, and
bringing non-poet friends into the group to help him.
Will has recently driven Jim Senetto out of the group with his b.s. There are
very few of us left, and we're all getting fed up with him, so when someone
buddies up with Will and contributes to his OT content, we're not going to >> > welcome them with open arms.
But if you're hinting that you're willing to learn the ropes, then I welcome
a fellow mystic and poet to our group.
will continue to occasionally crosspost to other poetry
groups, less likely to non-poetry groups (though I could
to mental health groups to get a discussion going on
the mental health of historical poets, for example).
But this is not one of my main groups, so I think I
will rarely post here, unless my poetic creativity returns.
Thanks, David. On-topic posts are much appreciated.
Some of my “poem fragments”, some done when I was
hypomanic, are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html .
But though I had good wordplay ability then, I often
didn’t really finish projects, and I hope my creativity
will return soon and that it will include the ability
to stick to and finish projects.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:00:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:21 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
(in article<ff800f4a-fad9-496c...@googlegroups.com>):
I am not trying to make the world more Pagan, as II didn't call you a fruitcake because of your Druidic religion. I called
youObviously I am not doing my magick through Usenet, I am
a fruitcake because you believe that cross-posting your beliefs to a
handful
of Usenet groups (Usenet has been on life support for the past 20 years) is
somehow going to usher in a new age of Paganism.
Anyone who thinks that posting on Usenet is going to change the world, is
totally crackers. It is indicative of a self-absorbed, narcissistic psyche
with (obvious) delusions of grandeur. The world doesn't revolve around
Usenet, much less David Dalton.
reporting on it on Usenet, where I had far more readers
twenty years ago than I do now. And I don’t have
delusions of grandeur, I underwent an anointing by
the divine that effectively augmented my higher
dimensional body, and I am attempting to instigate
change by “flapping my higher dimensional butterfly
wings” (as I put it to atheists) or you can look at it
as a complicated prayer in which I have done much
of the groundwork over decades.
And how is that working out for you?
Your Usenet readership had dropped considerably (according to you), and the
world doesn't seem to be any more Pagan than it did 20 years ago.
indicated in Nancy’s Nutter thread in a slightly different
followup in which I expanded on the above. I
would have preferred that Will hadn’t duplicated the thread;
perhaps he thought I had killfiled Nancy and followups
to her posts.
Will claims that NancyGene and I are "malicious trolls"
Anyone reading here for any amount of time will see that's true.
refuses to respond
I don't read or respond to most of the troll threads, true.
This created a problem for Will because he also feels compelled to "set the record straight" by responding to our "lies."
Since you lie and misrepresent so much there's no way I could ever correct all of your smearing and attack posts, your lies and misrepresentations.
Will solved the problem by 1) responding to the posts in our threads, and then, 2) copy/pasting them to a new thread.
It doesn't actually resolve anything
Yes it does, I don't have to post on a troll thread.
But all you're doing is pissing off 5 or 6 people in a group with lessWith you who are easily pissed off as a welcoming committee,
than a
dozen members. You might as well sound off in your local supermarket for
all
the good that it's accomplishing.
I bet that many prospective regulars don’t stick around
and learn the ropes of the group.
AAPC is in a state of war between the poets (who want to use it as a poetry
discussion group) and Will Dockery who wants to use it as his personal >> >> > webpage.
Why can’t you just skip the posts of those you don’t want
to read? That is one advantage of Usenet, you
have a list of subject lines with names of posters,
and you can skip over them even in google groups and
killfile them if you have a good newsreader. I
read less than 5% of posts on alt.atheism.
I block/report
The "skip and ignore" policy, except that while you skip, you also need to learn how to ignore.
No one can ignore
Except that Nancy Gene obviously immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away from the poetry group.
come to look with suspicion on those with whom you seem to be on friendly terms
Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
started picking fights with Jim
A lie, as it was Senetto who picked any fights we had here, obsessed nutjob that he is.
Jim asked you not to post the poems you submitted
Had you ever had any poetry accepted by a real magazine
Will got back to his old tricks: picking fights with JimAnother lie, Pendragon, but that's what you do, after all.
The archives will show that Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob who always instigated the flames, attacks, and when he'd finally melt down, his violent fantasies and threats.
The archives will show that everyone was supposed to submit a new poem
When Jim insisted that you submit a new poem
In the ensuing flame wars more members left
Along with the many poets you and your malicious troll friends drove away, see below for a partial list of poets Michael Pendragon and his gang drove away, just as they intended to drive David Dalton away.
You forgot to mention that the last thing Jim Senetto did before he left was suggest that poet George Dance be"shot in the head."
As well he should -- although that would be too good for him. He really deserves to have a slow, painfully lingering death that all of us can savor.
As I said, Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob with violent fantasies.
Jim isn't here
Yet your friend Nancy Gene immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away as soon as he arrived.
He appeared to be yet another one of your recruits
In other words, another one of your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon. You and your fellow trolls are the ones driving new members away, to name a few your gang has driven away: Vinyl Cat, Antti, Karen, Mack, Philo... the list goes on.
Vinyl Cat was not a poet
Antti was a terrible poet
Karen got along with pretty much everyone. She certainly got along with NancyGene and me
Mack was not a poet
Philo... was a friend of the Dunce. He barely interacted with anyone, and only posted one or two poems before leaving.
Except for Karen, we're better off
When David Dalton arrived, he and everyone else could see that the malicious stalker troll Nancy Gene immediately went on the attack, to begin to try and drive Dalton away.
You keep saying that
Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
You keep saying this
What's that quote for Goebbels that Dunce is fond of repeating? "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it."
you bring all of this on yourself.
You accuse NancyGene and me of being "malicious trolls," yet you attack Jim Senetto
Playgrounds Magazine / October 2014 issue^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^^°. ^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^
http://spotidoc.com/doc/354845/playgrounds-free-m-a-g-a-z-i-n-e-oct-2014
Page 24: To The Magic Store column by Will Dockery
Page 24: "Tea Olive Ilk" poem by Will Dockery
Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :
Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.
Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.
Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.
HTH and HAND.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :
Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.
Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.
Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.
HTH and HAND.
V.C. has written a great many poems, most of which I have read privately, in her company...
Quite an excellent poet and artist..!Please note that the above evaluation
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 at 20:20:13 UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
Ash Wurthing wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:Sure, I can, Ash.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:Please note that Michael Pendragon is a delusional little fuckhead... a control freak on an ego trip, also... ha ha.
Will Dockery wrote:Please note that the above evaluation
Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :
Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.
Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.
Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.
HTH and HAND.
V.C. has written a great many poems, most of which I have read privately, in her company...
Quite an excellent poet and artist..!
We cannot help but note that Will Dockery and General Zod cannot substantiate
You're just making shit up as you go along, as usual.
HTH and HAND.
Damn will, don’t you just hate it when you get called out for doing the same thing you’re accusing others of doing
Snipped for focus:
Yes, for nearly two decades my poetry and columns were published every month in Playgrounds Magazine.
You continue to deny this truth, and I'll continue to correct your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon.
Playgrounds Magazine / October 2014 issue^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^^°. ^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^
http://spotidoc.com/doc/354845/playgrounds-free-m-a-g-a-z-i-n-e-oct-2014
Page 24: To The Magic Store column by Will Dockery
Page 24: "Tea Olive Ilk" poem by Will Dockery
For one example of hundreds of poetry publication. ^^^^^^
And so it goes.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 8:24:35 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:basically.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:19:35 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote: >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
roach wrote:
Faraway Star wrote:
Doc, count me in as a supporter of a valid plan for peace here as well...!
A couple of points we need to hash out on Pendragon's proposal, such as finding a way that Jordy doesn't have to be shut out, as I won't do that to a friend, but otherwise, the plan Pendragon put out looks very acceptable,
one of your 25 posts to thank him for posting a link to a poem we're all familiar, you may do so.
I'm waiting on feedback from the others but it is looking good so far.
Jordy hasn't been "shut out" -- only his "Hello" posts. Since everyone has 25 posts a day, Jordy could post his links to the Poetry Foundation, youtube, etc., which the majority of us can skip and ignore. If you want to use
Unseen (Fae).You're behaving very childishly, Donkey. 70s sitcoms are just your speed.I'm not being a snobI've watched all sorts of television shows over the years, Pendragon.I always liked Wilbur, but thought it came from Mister Ed.can i still call you wilbur ? (it's a term of endearment. :) like wilbur in the animated classic version of charlotte's web...the cute adorable pig.I'll still follow that idea, truce or no truce.
Since the Treaty doesn't necessitate that anyone follow the Guidelines, Jordy could even post his rants about President Trump.I've spoken with both George Dance and Zod about this matter, and we've agreed to try to engage Jordy in more discussion of the poetry he finds and posts here.
Agreed and seconded...
Of course you did
Not only would you be naturally attracted to a sitcom about a talking horse
Today, I just watched Gary Coleman in "Different Strokes" and now "Facts of Life" is playing
Don't be such a snob, Pendragon.
You deny being a delusional little fuckwit monkey also, Pendragon.
You prove your illiteracy here over and over again ("Dorian Grey"!).I'm merely pointing out that you have read very little (apart from comic books).
Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
Have you read "The Golden Bough," "The White Goddess," or "The Power of Myth"?
As per usual, you have pretended to be a Shaman, and have subsequently attacked Magick as "delusional" -- yet you have never bother to read any of literature that pertains to it.
He pretended to be a shaman? I hope not. I know someone who's a descendant of actual shamans, aka medicine or wise men, and Dockery ain't no shaman. But it is funny to see a New Ager, who cliams to have a spirit guide, diss on Magick and the
Not true, there were many other contributors to the Shaman zine.He co-published a "poetry journal" (although he was the only contributor
Okay, how about another why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey?
It's an observation,
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:20:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:acceptable, basically.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:59:55 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:43:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:36:00 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:20:19 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 8:24:35 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:19:35 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
roach wrote:
Faraway Star wrote:
Doc, count me in as a supporter of a valid plan for peace here as well...!
A couple of points we need to hash out on Pendragon's proposal, such as finding a way that Jordy doesn't have to be shut out, as I won't do that to a friend, but otherwise, the plan Pendragon put out looks very
want to use one of your 25 posts to thank him for posting a link to a poem we're all familiar, you may do so.
I'm waiting on feedback from the others but it is looking good so far.
Jordy hasn't been "shut out" -- only his "Hello" posts. Since everyone has 25 posts a day, Jordy could post his links to the Poetry Foundation, youtube, etc., which the majority of us can skip and ignore. If you
Magick and the Unseen (Fae).You're behaving very childishly, Donkey. 70s sitcoms are just your speed.I'm not being a snobI've watched all sorts of television shows over the years, Pendragon.I always liked Wilbur, but thought it came from Mister Ed.can i still call you wilbur ? (it's a term of endearment. :) like wilbur in the animated classic version of charlotte's web...the cute adorable pig.I'll still follow that idea, truce or no truce.
Since the Treaty doesn't necessitate that anyone follow the Guidelines, Jordy could even post his rants about President Trump.I've spoken with both George Dance and Zod about this matter, and we've agreed to try to engage Jordy in more discussion of the poetry he finds and posts here.
Agreed and seconded...
Of course you did
Not only would you be naturally attracted to a sitcom about a talking horse
Today, I just watched Gary Coleman in "Different Strokes" and now "Facts of Life" is playing
Don't be such a snob, Pendragon.
You deny being a delusional little fuckwit monkey also, Pendragon.
You prove your illiteracy here over and over again ("Dorian Grey"!).I'm merely pointing out that you have read very little (apart from comic books).
Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
Have you read "The Golden Bough," "The White Goddess," or "The Power of Myth"?
As per usual, you have pretended to be a Shaman, and have subsequently attacked Magick as "delusional" -- yet you have never bother to read any of literature that pertains to it.
He pretended to be a shaman? I hope not. I know someone who's a descendant of actual shamans, aka medicine or wise men, and Dockery ain't no shaman. But it is funny to see a New Ager, who cliams to have a spirit guide, diss on
<Snip>Not true, there were many other contributors to the Shaman zine.He co-published a "poetry journal" (although he was the only contributor
Okay, how about another why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey?
It's an observation,No, it's an attempted smear, a lie and a misrepresentation, Pendragon.
I realized that dealing with trolls like you shouldn't have to take any effort."Ironywaves" made more-or-less original statements, appeared to have some familiarity with the topics being discussed, and didn't rely on the same, tired, second-handed catch-phrases as you do.In your delusional opinion, you mean.Nothing new for you, just your typical shit slinging."Ironywaves" had much better, and more original, comebacks
You're basically not worth my full attention.So... you're saying
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:25:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
David Dalton wrote:
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
Again, welcome.
Post poems, original poetry and poetry of your favorite poets.
Wrong
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:06:59 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote: >> > On Thursday, September 28, 2 it023 at 6:58:21 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
"Comments" is good enough.On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:25:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:Then why isn't it called alt.arts.poetry.andconversation then?
David Dalton wrote:Indeed, this poetry group is open for any conversation that is of interest to fellow poets..!
OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.
Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
Again, welcome.
Post poems, original poetry and poetry of your favorite poets.
Poets posting comments, as it always has been.
One comments *on* something
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