• [OT] Muslims planning vigil for Yahyah Sinwar at City Hall

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 21:08:38 2024
    A major controversy is taking place in Mississauga, Ontario, which is immediately west of Toronto. A group of Muslim activists is holding a
    vigil for Yahyah Sinwar on Nov 26 at City Hall. The mayor insisted that
    it was not a real event but the evidence seems to say otherwise.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-hamas-vigil-yahya-sinwar

    I am utterly appalled.

    They say the antidote to distasteful speech is more speech. Maybe
    ordinary people need to hold a celebration of Netanyahu or the IDF to
    counter the pro-Hamas crowd. Imagine if the turnout from the pro-Israel
    crowd dwarfed the turnout of the pro-Hamas crowd! The problem is that I
    don't know if it would: we have far more Muslims than Jews in this
    country now and I'm not sure what number of non-Jews would appear for
    such an event. If it wasn't a really big turnout, it would probably do
    more harm than good and make the pro-Hamas crowd seem much more popular
    than it is.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Nov 13 03:28:46 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 21:08:38 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    A major controversy is taking place in Mississauga, Ontario, which is >immediately west of Toronto. A group of Muslim activists is holding a
    vigil for Yahyah Sinwar on Nov 26 at City Hall. The mayor insisted that
    it was not a real event but the evidence seems to say otherwise.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-hamas-vigil-yahya-sinwar

    I am utterly appalled.

    They say the antidote to distasteful speech is more speech. Maybe
    ordinary people need to hold a celebration of Netanyahu or the IDF to
    counter the pro-Hamas crowd. Imagine if the turnout from the pro-Israel
    crowd dwarfed the turnout of the pro-Hamas crowd! The problem is that I
    don't know if it would: we have far more Muslims than Jews in this
    country now and I'm not sure what number of non-Jews would appear for
    such an event. If it wasn't a really big turnout, it would probably do
    more harm than good and make the pro-Hamas crowd seem much more popular
    than it is.

    According to the 2021 Canadian census that would be 1.8 million
    Muslims and 335,000 Jews.

    I would have expected the percentages to be similar in the US BUT https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/
    says Muslims, Jews and Buddhists are about 1% of the US population
    each (it gave strictly percentages no numbers)

    I do know the lack of balance in Canada is already having impact - (a)
    the sacking of BC cabinet minister Selena Robinson from the NDP
    cabinet was considered to be directly due to anti-Semiticism in both
    the NDP caucus and civil service and (b) there have been several trade
    unions which played a direct role in anti-Israel demonstrations in BC
    within the past 6 months.

    It is interesting to speculate on how or whether the death today of
    former BC premier John Horgan will affect things as his successor
    (from the same party) David Eby was considered much more willing to
    pander to Muslim interests than Horgan was and while the BC NDP will
    certainly give Horgan the mother of all send offs Eby is likely to
    take the gloves off once his mentor is buried.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Nov 13 11:30:09 2024
    On 2024-11-13 6:28 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 21:08:38 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    A major controversy is taking place in Mississauga, Ontario, which is
    immediately west of Toronto. A group of Muslim activists is holding a
    vigil for Yahyah Sinwar on Nov 26 at City Hall. The mayor insisted that
    it was not a real event but the evidence seems to say otherwise.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-hamas-vigil-yahya-sinwar

    I am utterly appalled.

    They say the antidote to distasteful speech is more speech. Maybe
    ordinary people need to hold a celebration of Netanyahu or the IDF to
    counter the pro-Hamas crowd. Imagine if the turnout from the pro-Israel
    crowd dwarfed the turnout of the pro-Hamas crowd! The problem is that I
    don't know if it would: we have far more Muslims than Jews in this
    country now and I'm not sure what number of non-Jews would appear for
    such an event. If it wasn't a really big turnout, it would probably do
    more harm than good and make the pro-Hamas crowd seem much more popular
    than it is.

    According to the 2021 Canadian census that would be 1.8 million
    Muslims and 335,000 Jews.

    I would have expected the percentages to be similar in the US BUT https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/
    says Muslims, Jews and Buddhists are about 1% of the US population
    each (it gave strictly percentages no numbers)

    I do know the lack of balance in Canada is already having impact - (a)
    the sacking of BC cabinet minister Selena Robinson from the NDP
    cabinet was considered to be directly due to anti-Semiticism in both
    the NDP caucus and civil service and (b) there have been several trade
    unions which played a direct role in anti-Israel demonstrations in BC
    within the past 6 months.

    It is interesting to speculate on how or whether the death today of
    former BC premier John Horgan will affect things as his successor
    (from the same party) David Eby was considered much more willing to
    pander to Muslim interests than Horgan was and while the BC NDP will certainly give Horgan the mother of all send offs Eby is likely to
    take the gloves off once his mentor is buried.

    By "taking the gloves off", I assume you mean Eby will amplify his
    support of Muslims rather than diminish it?

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Thu Nov 14 09:49:40 2024
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:30:09 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    It is interesting to speculate on how or whether the death today of
    former BC premier John Horgan will affect things as his successor
    (from the same party) David Eby was considered much more willing to
    pander to Muslim interests than Horgan was and while the BC NDP will
    certainly give Horgan the mother of all send offs Eby is likely to
    take the gloves off once his mentor is buried.

    By "taking the gloves off", I assume you mean Eby will amplify his
    support of Muslims rather than diminish it?

    Not so much amplify as ignore Jews even more.

    Of course given your geography I would expect you to have noticed https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-hamas-vigil-yahya-sinwar

    which features the fact that Mississauga, ON (Toronto's biggest
    suburb) is supporting a rally in memory of Sinwar, head of HAMAS and
    prime mover behind the HAMAS invasion of Israel.

    The fact that (a) it's being held at City Hall and (b) uses the Royal
    Canadian Legion Poppy and "Lest We Forget" (the former being a Legion
    copywrite and the latter being a common phrase on November 11th both
    in Canada and the UK) is particularly egregious.

    I hope the voters remember and justly reward the mayor at the next
    election. (In other words the political version of "terminate with
    extreme prejudice")

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Nov 15 14:23:46 2024
    On 2024-11-14 12:49 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:30:09 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    It is interesting to speculate on how or whether the death today of
    former BC premier John Horgan will affect things as his successor
    (from the same party) David Eby was considered much more willing to
    pander to Muslim interests than Horgan was and while the BC NDP will
    certainly give Horgan the mother of all send offs Eby is likely to
    take the gloves off once his mentor is buried.

    By "taking the gloves off", I assume you mean Eby will amplify his
    support of Muslims rather than diminish it?

    Not so much amplify as ignore Jews even more.

    Of course given your geography I would expect you to have noticed https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-hamas-vigil-yahya-sinwar

    which features the fact that Mississauga, ON (Toronto's biggest
    suburb) is supporting a rally in memory of Sinwar, head of HAMAS and
    prime mover behind the HAMAS invasion of Israel.

    The fact that (a) it's being held at City Hall and (b) uses the Royal Canadian Legion Poppy and "Lest We Forget" (the former being a Legion copywrite and the latter being a common phrase on November 11th both
    in Canada and the UK) is particularly egregious.

    I hope the voters remember and justly reward the mayor at the next
    election. (In other words the political version of "terminate with
    extreme prejudice")

    I agree 100%!

    --
    Rhino

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