• And the Leftist Election-Denying Conspiracies Start...

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 19:06:31 2024
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this behavior is unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after losing the presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these double standards, isn't there?

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 14:44:17 2024
    On 11/7/2024 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this behavior is unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after losing the presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these double standards, isn't there?

    In fairness, Trump's words *were* both anomalous and inexplicable
    (...unless, of course, you've got some precedent or explanation).

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Nov 7 14:16:29 2024
    On 2024-11-07 19:44:17 +0000, moviePig said:

    On 11/7/2024 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged
    election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this behavior is >> unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after losing the >> presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12


    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these double >> standards, isn't there?

    In fairness, Trump's words *were* both anomalous and inexplicable
    (...unless, of course, you've got some precedent or explanation).

    Kind of like comparing a puddle to an ocean.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 15:25:26 2024
    On 2024-11-07 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this behavior is unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after losing the presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these double standards, isn't there?



    They only have one standard and they stick to it religiously: the ends
    justify the means.

    ~~

    I'm amazed at Maddow's leap of "logic". There are much more reasonable interpretations of Trump's remarks than the one she came up with:

    1. Via super-secret private polling or other such methods, the Trump
    campaign is certain it is going to get enough votes that it is going to
    win without an appeal for supporters to come out in the last days being necessary.

    2. By analysis of the advance polls, i.e. ballots already cast, they
    know they've already won.

    3. The campaign has manufactured enough counterfeit ballots in enough
    places to be sure that Trump will win.

    Obviously, the first two of those are perfectly legal and the third is
    very much the opposite. But Maddow discards ALL of those more reasonable possibilities to imply that Trump is going to seize power in a coup or something of that kind!

    Is she so clueless that she thinks someone can just snap their fingers
    and then a coup happens, without any preparation, like unusual troop
    movements, unlocking armouries, etc. etc.?

    Occam's Razor: it's not just for shaving!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 15:39:00 2024
    On 11/7/2024 3:16 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-11-07 19:44:17 +0000, moviePig said:

    On 11/7/2024 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged
    election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this
    behavior is
    unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after
    losing the
    presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/
    avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these
    double
    standards, isn't there?

    In fairness, Trump's words *were* both anomalous and inexplicable
    (...unless, of course, you've got some precedent or explanation).

    Kind of like comparing a puddle to an ocean.

    ...while insisting the ocean is only make-believe.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Nov 7 15:51:43 2024
    On 11/7/2024 3:25 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-11-07 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged
    election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this
    behavior is
    unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after
    losing the
    presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/
    avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these
    double
    standards, isn't there?



    They only have one standard and they stick to it religiously: the ends justify the means.

    ~~

    I'm amazed at Maddow's leap of "logic". There are much more reasonable interpretations of Trump's remarks than the one she came up with:

    1. Via super-secret private polling or other such methods, the Trump
    campaign is certain it is going to get enough votes that it is going to
    win without an appeal for supporters to come out in the last days being necessary.

    2. By analysis of the advance polls, i.e. ballots already cast, they
    know they've already won.

    3. The campaign has manufactured enough counterfeit ballots in enough
    places to be sure that Trump will win.

    Obviously, the first two of those are perfectly legal and the third is
    very much the opposite. But Maddow discards ALL of those more reasonable possibilities to imply that Trump is going to seize power in a coup or something of that kind!

    How does #3 not fit her amorphous allegation?


    Is she so clueless that she thinks someone can just snap their fingers
    and then a coup happens, without any preparation, like unusual troop movements, unlocking armouries, etc. etc.?

    Umm, that sounds rather like Jan. 6, doesn't it?


    Occam's Razor: it's not just for shaving!

    Neither is it for justifying an inexplicable like Trump's statement.
    E.g., even under absurdities like you're fabricating, there's no
    rational reason for him to say what he did. So, if anything, "Occam's
    razor" says maybe we shouldn't assume rationality...

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Nov 7 17:01:43 2024
    On 2024-11-07 3:51 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 11/7/2024 3:25 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-11-07 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged
    election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this
    behavior is
    unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after
    losing the
    presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/
    avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these
    double
    standards, isn't there?



    They only have one standard and they stick to it religiously: the ends
    justify the means.

    ~~

    I'm amazed at Maddow's leap of "logic". There are much more reasonable
    interpretations of Trump's remarks than the one she came up with:

    1. Via super-secret private polling or other such methods, the Trump
    campaign is certain it is going to get enough votes that it is going
    to win without an appeal for supporters to come out in the last days
    being necessary.

    2. By analysis of the advance polls, i.e. ballots already cast, they
    know they've already won.

    3. The campaign has manufactured enough counterfeit ballots in enough
    places to be sure that Trump will win.

    Obviously, the first two of those are perfectly legal and the third is
    very much the opposite. But Maddow discards ALL of those more
    reasonable possibilities to imply that Trump is going to seize power
    in a coup or something of that kind!

    How does #3 not fit her amorphous allegation?

    You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I said that #3 is
    a better fit for the allegations than what she proposed. Apparently you
    agree.

    Is she so clueless that she thinks someone can just snap their fingers
    and then a coup happens, without any preparation, like unusual troop
    movements, unlocking armouries, etc. etc.?

    Umm, that sounds rather like Jan. 6, doesn't it?


    Occam's Razor: it's not just for shaving!

    Neither is it for justifying an inexplicable like Trump's statement.
    E.g., even under absurdities like you're fabricating, there's no
    rational reason for him to say what he did.  So, if anything, "Occam's razor" says maybe we shouldn't assume rationality...


    What is absurd about any of the three alternatives I suggested? You've
    already tacitly agreed that #3 is plausible! I'd say any one of them is
    more plausible than what she proposed.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Thu Nov 7 18:02:01 2024
    On 11/7/2024 5:01 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-11-07 3:51 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 11/7/2024 3:25 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-11-07 2:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged >>>> election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this
    behavior is
    unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after
    losing the
    presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/
    avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4?tag=12

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these
    double
    standards, isn't there?



    They only have one standard and they stick to it religiously: the
    ends justify the means.

    ~~

    I'm amazed at Maddow's leap of "logic". There are much more
    reasonable interpretations of Trump's remarks than the one she came
    up with:

    1. Via super-secret private polling or other such methods, the Trump
    campaign is certain it is going to get enough votes that it is going
    to win without an appeal for supporters to come out in the last days
    being necessary.

    2. By analysis of the advance polls, i.e. ballots already cast, they
    know they've already won.

    3. The campaign has manufactured enough counterfeit ballots in enough
    places to be sure that Trump will win.

    Obviously, the first two of those are perfectly legal and the third
    is very much the opposite. But Maddow discards ALL of those more
    reasonable possibilities to imply that Trump is going to seize power
    in a coup or something of that kind!

    How does #3 not fit her amorphous allegation?

    You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I said that #3 is
    a better fit for the allegations than what she proposed. Apparently you agree.

    Umm, you need to work on your *writing* comprehension. You said #3 was *illegal*. The only "better fit" is the one you're throwing...


    Is she so clueless that she thinks someone can just snap their
    fingers and then a coup happens, without any preparation, like
    unusual troop movements, unlocking armouries, etc. etc.?

    Umm, that sounds rather like Jan. 6, doesn't it?


    Occam's Razor: it's not just for shaving!

    Neither is it for justifying an inexplicable like Trump's statement.
    E.g., even under absurdities like you're fabricating, there's no
    rational reason for him to say what he did.  So, if anything, "Occam's
    razor" says maybe we shouldn't assume rationality...


    What is absurd about any of the three alternatives I suggested? You've already tacitly agreed that #3 is plausible! I'd say any one of them is
    more plausible than what she proposed.


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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Nov 12 04:30:47 2024
    In article <vgj33n$2p38a$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

    That little fella Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is all worked up over a rigged >election conspiracy theory. Four years of telling us that this behavior is >unAmerican and a threat to democracy and now just two days after losing the >presidency, she's doing the exact same thing.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1854343378453901312/pu/vid/avc1/1020x578/iHN-Y7TrFeq-15sJ.mp4

    I mean, there's got to be a limit to the depth and breadth of these double >standards, isn't there?

    I noticed these people suddenly decided that the Diemaster voting machines are corruptable again.
    --
    Don't jump!

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