• Harris Administration Targeting Police, Fire Services Over DEI

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 05:31:11 2024
    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend, Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written
    examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical fitness test that discriminates against female applicants.


    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-south-bend-indiana-discriminating-against-black-and-female-police

    Want to see how hard this exam is? Let's look at some questions.

    Officer Milton visits local area businesses as part of a theft prevention program. If Officer Milton visits three area businesses every week, except for his 3-week vacation, how many groups does he visit in one year?

    A. 49
    B. 98
    C. 147
    D. 150
    E. 166

    For the next two questions, you'll use the following information that you can reference at any time during the test:

    In preparing a report on a burglary in a dentist's office, SGT Hooker listed the following stolen items and their values.

    Digital camera $810
    Laptop compter $650
    Printer $325
    Paper shredder $125

    What was the total value of the stolen goods?

    A. $1800
    B. $1810
    C. $1860
    D. $1910
    E. $2010

    What was the value of all the stolen goods EXCEPT the paper shredder?

    A. $1100
    B. $1260
    C. $1585
    D. $1685
    E. $1785

    During one 5-day period, Officer Poncharello drove his patrol motorcycle 225 miles. If he drove 85 miles on one day, how many miles did he average on each of the other days?

    A. 28 miles
    B. 35 miles
    C. 40 miles
    D. 70 miles
    E. 140 miles

    Burglars broke into an electronics store and left with 30 global navigation systems with a total retail value of $6750. What is the average retail value
    of each navigation system?

    A. $225
    B. $250
    C. $275
    D. $325
    E. $350

    ----------------------------
    Now on to reading comprehension. Use the following passage for the next five questions.

    In an effort to conserve fuel, reduce traffic congestion, and encourage
    greater use of public transportation, police in Metropolis are enforcing new driving restrictions through the use of specially-marked license plates. These restrictions apply to all vehicular traffic within a 2-mile radius of the city center and are effective Monday through Friday.

    Vehicles with an "A" plate are considered essential to city services and may travel and park freely in the city center. Police, fire, and emergency
    vehicles are examples of those that would issued "A" plates. Public transportation vehicles such as buses and taxis will be issued a "K" plate,
    and may also travel freely through the city center, though they may not park anywhere in the city center.

    Delivery vehicles will be issued a "B" plate, which allows them access to the city center for loading and unloading between 8AM to 10AM and 4PM to 6PM only. There is no restriction on deliveries over the weekend. Shop and business owners within the city center will be issued "Q" plates, which allows them access to their place of business; however, parking within the city center
    must be off-street.

    Privately-owned vehicles with an "X" plate may be driven and parked within the city center on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday only. Vehicles issued a "Z" plate may be driven and parked within the city center on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday only.

    Metropolis Police are authorized to ticket and arrange for the immediate
    towing of vehicles violating these new license plate ordinances. The objective of these changes is to make the city less congested and more
    shopper-friendly.

    According to the passage, a package delivery service may deliver a shipment of medications to a pharmacy in the city center

    A. at any time of day
    B. on weekends only
    C. between 8AM and 10AM
    D. on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday only
    E. between 8AM and 6PM only

    According to the passage, what type of plate will be assigned to Lucy Lane,
    who owns a clothing store in the city center?

    A. Q
    B. X
    C. A
    D. B
    E. Z

    According to the passage, Jimmy Olson drives a Prius with a Z license plate
    and may drive and park within the city center

    A. on any Monday
    B. on any Friday
    C. before 9AM or after 7PM on any day
    D. for loading and unloading purposes only
    E. at any time

    According to the passage, drivers with X or Z plates may drive and park in the city center on any Wednesday

    A. True
    B. False

    According to the passage, which of the following statements would be
    accurate?

    A. The newly-enacted driving restrictions apply to all vehicular traffic driving within the boundaries of Metropolis.
    B. Metropolis PD may choose to either ticket or tow vehicles violating these new license ordinances.
    C. Vehicles with an A plate may travel freely in the city center but may not park on the street there.
    D. The goal of these new driving restrictions is to create a pedestrian-only shopping area.
    E. The purpose of these newly-issued plates is to reduce traffic volume in
    the city center during the time when shoppers frequent the businesses.

    ----------------------------
    The 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, speech, and press, as well
    as the right to assemble peacefully.

    The 5th Amendment protects citizens against violations of due process in criminal proceedings. No person may be compelled to testify against him/herself, a grand jury process is required for criminal indictments, and double jeopardy is prohibited.

    The 6th Amendment guarantees a speedy, fair trial by an impartial jury and the right to counsel in all criminal cases.

    The 8th Amendment prohibits excessive bail or fines, as well as cruel and unusual punishment.

    To which of the following would the 5th Amendment apply?

    A. George, who has little money, has a court-appointed lawyer to defend him
    in his manslaughter trial.
    B. Because Juan is a flight risk, Judge Bailey has set bail at $1 million.
    C. During interrogation, Drew incriminates himself because a lawyer was not present to advise him.
    D. Manuel, who was found not guilty in the murder of his wife, cannot be
    tried again after new evidence is found.
    E. Spencer has waited three years for his burglary charge to go to trial.

    ----------------------------
    You're given a blank incident report and notes of the responding officer:

    https://ibb.co/Khy4yp9

    Sarah Connor, an employee of Big Buns Restaurant at 1535 La Cienega Boulevard, Los Angeles, called 911 dispatch at 6:30AM, Friday April 13, to report that
    the restaurant had been broken into during the night. Officers Ron Traxler and Paul Vukovich arrived at the premises at 6:40AM to investigate the incident. Ms. Connor was able to report immediately that an espresso machine and $78
    from the register were missing.

    The incident report can be fully completed based on the information responding officer's notes.

    A. True
    B. False

    The incident was reported on April 13.

    A. True
    B. False

    ----------------------------
    Fill in the blank with appropriate word.

    There were three _________ at the accident scene.

    A. witness
    B. witnesses
    C. witness's

    The lieutenant decided _______ was enough evidence to issue an arrest
    warrant.

    A. there
    B. their
    C. they're

    Detective McClane and _______ arrested the suspect.

    A. me
    B. I

    "A recent study found that alcahol was a common factor in traffic accidents."

    Which word in the above sentence is misspelled?

    A. recent
    B. found
    C. alcahol
    D. common
    E. accidents

    "On Tuesday, September 18, Detective Martin Riggs investigated a complaint filed by the secretery of an insurance company."

    Which word in the above sentence is misspelled?

    A. Tuesday
    B. September
    C. investigated
    D. secretery
    E. insurance

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily complete it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that women do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer.

    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, then you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing, firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week, her DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having hiring standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States. They will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight of their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and filed a notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 12:31:08 2024
    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend, Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.


    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-south-bend-indiana-discriminating-against-black-and-female-police

    Want to see how hard this exam is? Let's look at some questions.

    Officer Milton visits local area businesses as part of a theft prevention program. If Officer Milton visits three area businesses every week, except for
    his 3-week vacation, how many groups does he visit in one year?

    A. 49
    B. 98
    C. 147
    D. 150
    E. 166

    For the next two questions, you'll use the following information that you can reference at any time during the test:

    In preparing a report on a burglary in a dentist's office, SGT Hooker listed the following stolen items and their values.

    Digital camera $810
    Laptop compter $650
    Printer $325
    Paper shredder $125

    What was the total value of the stolen goods?

    A. $1800
    B. $1810
    C. $1860
    D. $1910
    E. $2010

    What was the value of all the stolen goods EXCEPT the paper shredder?

    A. $1100
    B. $1260
    C. $1585
    D. $1685
    E. $1785

    During one 5-day period, Officer Poncharello drove his patrol motorcycle 225 miles. If he drove 85 miles on one day, how many miles did he average on each of the other days?

    A. 28 miles
    B. 35 miles
    C. 40 miles
    D. 70 miles
    E. 140 miles

    Burglars broke into an electronics store and left with 30 global navigation systems with a total retail value of $6750. What is the average retail value of each navigation system?

    A. $225
    B. $250
    C. $275
    D. $325
    E. $350

    ----------------------------
    Now on to reading comprehension. Use the following passage for the next five questions.

    In an effort to conserve fuel, reduce traffic congestion, and encourage greater use of public transportation, police in Metropolis are enforcing new driving restrictions through the use of specially-marked license plates. These
    restrictions apply to all vehicular traffic within a 2-mile radius of the city
    center and are effective Monday through Friday.

    Vehicles with an "A" plate are considered essential to city services and may travel and park freely in the city center. Police, fire, and emergency vehicles are examples of those that would issued "A" plates. Public transportation vehicles such as buses and taxis will be issued a "K" plate, and may also travel freely through the city center, though they may not park anywhere in the city center.

    Delivery vehicles will be issued a "B" plate, which allows them access to the city center for loading and unloading between 8AM to 10AM and 4PM to 6PM only.
    There is no restriction on deliveries over the weekend. Shop and business owners within the city center will be issued "Q" plates, which allows them access to their place of business; however, parking within the city center must be off-street.

    Privately-owned vehicles with an "X" plate may be driven and parked within the
    city center on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday only. Vehicles issued a "Z" plate may be driven and parked within the city center on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday only.

    Metropolis Police are authorized to ticket and arrange for the immediate towing of vehicles violating these new license plate ordinances. The objective
    of these changes is to make the city less congested and more shopper-friendly.

    According to the passage, a package delivery service may deliver a shipment of
    medications to a pharmacy in the city center

    A. at any time of day
    B. on weekends only
    C. between 8AM and 10AM
    D. on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday only
    E. between 8AM and 6PM only

    According to the passage, what type of plate will be assigned to Lucy Lane, who owns a clothing store in the city center?

    A. Q
    B. X
    C. A
    D. B
    E. Z

    According to the passage, Jimmy Olson drives a Prius with a Z license plate and may drive and park within the city center

    A. on any Monday
    B. on any Friday
    C. before 9AM or after 7PM on any day
    D. for loading and unloading purposes only
    E. at any time

    According to the passage, drivers with X or Z plates may drive and park in the
    city center on any Wednesday

    A. True
    B. False

    According to the passage, which of the following statements would be accurate?

    A. The newly-enacted driving restrictions apply to all vehicular traffic driving within the boundaries of Metropolis.
    B. Metropolis PD may choose to either ticket or tow vehicles violating these new license ordinances.
    C. Vehicles with an A plate may travel freely in the city center but may not park on the street there.
    D. The goal of these new driving restrictions is to create a pedestrian-only shopping area.
    E. The purpose of these newly-issued plates is to reduce traffic volume in the city center during the time when shoppers frequent the businesses.

    ----------------------------
    The 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, speech, and press, as well as the right to assemble peacefully.

    The 5th Amendment protects citizens against violations of due process in criminal proceedings. No person may be compelled to testify against him/herself, a grand jury process is required for criminal indictments, and double jeopardy is prohibited.

    The 6th Amendment guarantees a speedy, fair trial by an impartial jury and the
    right to counsel in all criminal cases.

    The 8th Amendment prohibits excessive bail or fines, as well as cruel and unusual punishment.

    To which of the following would the 5th Amendment apply?

    A. George, who has little money, has a court-appointed lawyer to defend him in his manslaughter trial.
    B. Because Juan is a flight risk, Judge Bailey has set bail at $1 million. C. During interrogation, Drew incriminates himself because a lawyer was not present to advise him.
    D. Manuel, who was found not guilty in the murder of his wife, cannot be tried again after new evidence is found.
    E. Spencer has waited three years for his burglary charge to go to trial.

    ----------------------------
    You're given a blank incident report and notes of the responding officer:

    https://ibb.co/Khy4yp9

    Sarah Connor, an employee of Big Buns Restaurant at 1535 La Cienega Boulevard,
    Los Angeles, called 911 dispatch at 6:30AM, Friday April 13, to report that the restaurant had been broken into during the night. Officers Ron Traxler and
    Paul Vukovich arrived at the premises at 6:40AM to investigate the incident. Ms. Connor was able to report immediately that an espresso machine and $78 from the register were missing.

    The incident report can be fully completed based on the information responding
    officer's notes.

    A. True
    B. False

    The incident was reported on April 13.

    A. True
    B. False

    ----------------------------
    Fill in the blank with appropriate word.

    There were three _________ at the accident scene.

    A. witness
    B. witnesses
    C. witness's

    The lieutenant decided _______ was enough evidence to issue an arrest warrant.

    A. there
    B. their
    C. they're

    Detective McClane and _______ arrested the suspect.

    A. me
    B. I

    "A recent study found that alcahol was a common factor in traffic accidents."

    Which word in the above sentence is misspelled?

    A. recent
    B. found
    C. alcahol
    D. common
    E. accidents

    "On Tuesday, September 18, Detective Martin Riggs investigated a complaint filed by the secretery of an insurance company."

    Which word in the above sentence is misspelled?

    A. Tuesday
    B. September
    C. investigated
    D. secretery
    E. insurance

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that women do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer.

    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, then you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing, firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week, her DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States. They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight of their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Oct 12 16:38:45 2024
    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written
    examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical
    fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily
    complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll >> clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that
    women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically >> physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer.

    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men,
    then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing, >> firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week, >> her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having
    hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently >> still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is
    prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States. >> They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against >> injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic
    bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight >> of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and
    filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >> "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in >> its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" standards?

    How many times did your parents drop you on your head?

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 13:37:02 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written
    examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical
    fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily
    complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll >>> clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically >>> physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer.

    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, >>> then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing, >>> firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week, >>> her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently >>> still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States. >>> They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic
    bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight >>> of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and
    filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >>> "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in >>> its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black >people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is >just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" >standards?


    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to shawn on Sat Oct 12 11:13:18 2024
    On 10/12/2024 10:37 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written
    examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical >>>> fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>> complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, >>>> then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic >>>> bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and >>>> filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black
    people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is >> just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" >> standards?


    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    I do that in about 20 minutes on level ground, paved. Takes me about
    5-10 minutes more on dirt or up and down a mountain.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Sat Oct 12 18:29:06 2024
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of
    South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police >officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil
    Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written
    examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical >>>> fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>> complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.

    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically >>>> physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, >>>> then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing, >>>> firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week, >>>> her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently >>>> still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States. >>>> They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic >>>> bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and >>>> filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in >>>> its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic >bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black >>people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is >>just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" >>standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only standards I was a patheticic athete in high school but I ran a 6 minute
    mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have
    made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn[t a distance I ran.

    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd
    given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15
    minutes a mile.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sat Oct 12 14:56:41 2024
    On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of
    South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police
    officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil
    Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written >>>>> examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical >>>>> fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>>> complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer. >>>>>
    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>>>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men,
    then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>>>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>>>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic >>>>> bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and >>>>> filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic
    bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President... >>>
    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black >>> people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is >>> just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" >>> standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only standards I was a patheticic athete in high school but I ran a 6 minute
    mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn[t a distance I ran.

    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15
    minutes a mile.

    "The average walking speed for adults is 2.5–4 miles per hour." -Google

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Oct 12 20:46:33 2024
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of
    South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police
    officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil
    Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written >>>>>> examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical >>>>>> fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>>>> complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer. >>>>>>
    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>>>>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, >>>>>> then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>>>>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>>>>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic >>>>>> bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and >>>>>> filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic
    bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President... >>>>
    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black >>>> people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is
    just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok" >>>> standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only
    standards I was a patheticic athete in high school but I ran a 6 minute
    mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have
    made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn[t a distance I ran.

    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd
    given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to
    eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15
    minutes a mile.

    "The average walking speed for adults is 2.5–4 miles per hour." -Google

    Four miles per hour is a 15-minute mile. Exactly what Adam said. I'm
    beginning to see why you're siding with the DOJ's claim that 4th-grade math
    is too much to expect from adult police applicants. Except you're not
    black. The DOJ's claim is that only blacks are so stupid that this test is unfair to them.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 17:25:56 2024
    On 10/12/2024 4:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of
    South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police
    officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil
    Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written >>>>>>> examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical >>>>>>> fitness
    test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>>>>> complete
    it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer. >>>>>>>
    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that >>>>>>> women
    do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men,
    then
    you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her
    DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having >>>>>>> hiring
    standards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is >>>>>>> prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They
    will make police less competent everywhere in the name of defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic >>>>>>> bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of
    their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and >>>>>>> filed a
    notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic
    bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President... >>>>>
    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black >>>>> people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is
    just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok"
    standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile
    run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only >>> standards I was a patheticic athete in high school but I ran a 6 minute
    mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have >>> made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn[t a distance I ran.

    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd >>> given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to >>> eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15
    minutes a mile.

    "The average walking speed for adults is 2.5–4 miles per hour." -Google

    Four miles per hour is a 15-minute mile. Exactly what Adam said. I'm beginning to see why you're siding with the DOJ's claim that 4th-grade math is too much to expect from adult police applicants. Except you're not
    black. The DOJ's claim is that only blacks are so stupid that this test is unfair to them.

    I didn't dispute what Adam said, I merely quoted Google. The only
    "dispute", afaics, might be whether 6 mph is a "brisk walk" or a slow
    jog (...oh, and laying unconscionable local hiring criteria on Harris).

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Oct 12 21:56:13 2024
    On Oct 12, 2024 at 2:25:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 4:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written >>>>>>>> examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical
    fitness test that discriminates against female applicants.

    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily >>>>>>>> complete it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be >>>>>>>> a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer. >>>>>>>>
    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that
    women do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are >>>>>>>> basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer. >>>>>>>>
    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men,
    then you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having
    hiring tandards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet >>>>>>>> apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is
    prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They will make police less competent everywhere in the name of >>>>>>>> defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic
    bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and
    filed a notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic >>>>>>>> bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black
    people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is
    just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok"
    standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile >>>>> run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only >>>> standards I was a pathetic athlete in high school but I ran a 6 minute >>>> mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have >>>> made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn't a distance I ran.

    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd >>>> given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to >>>> eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15 >>>> minutes a mile.

    "The average walking speed for adults is 2.5–4 miles per hour." -Google >>
    Four miles per hour is a 15-minute mile. Exactly what Adam said. I'm
    beginning to see why you're siding with the DOJ's claim that 4th-grade math >> is too much to expect from adult police applicants. Except you're not
    black. The DOJ's claim is that only blacks are so stupid that this test is >> unfair to them.

    I didn't dispute what Adam said, I merely quoted Google. The only
    "dispute", afaics, might be whether 6 mph is a "brisk walk" or a slow
    jog

    Well, that and whether asking someone to do either a brisk walk or slow jog is unreasonable to ask of someone who wants to be a police officer or
    firefighter. You seem to think it's not only unreasonable but
    "unconscionable".

    (...oh, and laying unconscionable local hiring criteria on Harris).

    Once again, it's stunning to me that you find these hiring criteria unconscionable in the first place. But regardless, I didn't lay the hiring requirements off on Harris. I held her responsible for her DOJ's ridiculous lawsuits *against* them, claiming blacks are too stupid to do basic math and reading and women are such complete physical slugs that asking them to jump a foot in the air or walk a mile-and-a-half is illegal discrimination.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 13 12:51:43 2024
    On 10/12/2024 5:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 12, 2024 at 2:25:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 4:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/12/2024 2:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:38:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2024 at 9:31:08 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2024 1:31 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South Bend,
    Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at
    the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written >>>>>>>>> examination that discriminates against black applicants and a physical
    fitness test that discriminates against female applicants. >>>>>>>>>
    This test is simple enough that a 4th-grader should be able to easily
    complete it. If you cannot pass this test, you aren't competent to be
    a cop. You'll
    clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer. >>>>>>>>>
    There's a second aspect of the DOJ's complaint. They're also upset that
    women do poorly on the physical exam, because the female recruits are
    basically
    physically incompetent to perform the job duties of a police officer.

    The physical test asks applicants to:

    Jump at least 13.5 inches
    Do 24 sit-ups in a minute
    Run 300 meters in 82 seconds
    Do 21 push-ups with no time limit
    Run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds
    Squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

    If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men,
    then you frankly should not be a cop. Period.

    But the Harris Administration does not care about excellence in policing,
    firefighting, or apparently anything else. Three times in this past week,
    her DOJ has attacked emergency services in three separate cities for having
    hiring tandards that are so low the bar is buried in the ground, yet
    apparently
    still don't result in enough bipocs and women getting hired. The DOJ is
    prepping to attack every police and fire department in the United States.
    They will make police less competent everywhere in the name of >>>>>>>>> defending against
    injustices that only exist in the heads of the country's most neurotic
    bureaucrats.

    Two of the targeted cities folded instantly and accepted federal oversight
    of their emergency services departments. South Bend, Indiana, did not and
    filed a notice that they will go to court over this.

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and
    "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in
    its public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic
    bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    So you apparently agree with the DOJ that this test is too hard for black
    people and that asking a woman to run a 19-minute mile-and-a-half (which is
    just barely above walking speed) is too much to ask. That these are "amok"
    standards?

    19 minutes? Just looked up what the military wants. It lists a 2 mile >>>>>> run for females in 20:36. So about a 10 minute mile is what our
    military desires.

    Three decades ago, the standard was 2 miles in 14 minutes., no women-only
    standards I was a pathetic athlete in high school but I ran a 6 minute >>>>> mile and with training I got it down a half minute. I assume I could have
    made 14 minutes for two miles although that wasn't a distance I ran. >>>>>
    i knew a guy trying to enlist who didn't qualify, but he smoked. If he'd
    given up smoking, he'd have made it easily.

    This was a not a standard designed to allow merely the athletic elite to
    eenlist.

    Two miles in 20 minutes is a brisk walk. We assume walking pace is 15 >>>>> minutes a mile.

    "The average walking speed for adults is 2.5–4 miles per hour." -Google

    Four miles per hour is a 15-minute mile. Exactly what Adam said. I'm
    beginning to see why you're siding with the DOJ's claim that 4th-grade math
    is too much to expect from adult police applicants. Except you're not
    black. The DOJ's claim is that only blacks are so stupid that this test is
    unfair to them.

    I didn't dispute what Adam said, I merely quoted Google. The only
    "dispute", afaics, might be whether 6 mph is a "brisk walk" or a slow
    jog

    Well, that and whether asking someone to do either a brisk walk or slow jog is
    unreasonable to ask of someone who wants to be a police officer or firefighter. You seem to think it's not only unreasonable but "unconscionable".

    (...oh, and laying unconscionable local hiring criteria on Harris).

    Once again, it's stunning to me that you find these hiring criteria unconscionable in the first place. But regardless, I didn't lay the hiring requirements off on Harris. I held her responsible for her DOJ's ridiculous lawsuits *against* them, claiming blacks are too stupid to do basic math and reading and women are such complete physical slugs that asking them to jump a foot in the air or walk a mile-and-a-half is illegal discrimination.

    The criteria can be 'unconscionable' for many reasons, including laxity.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 14 21:06:32 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 05:31:11 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >"equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its >public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats >in weaponized federal agencies.

    At my age I am doubtful I could pass the physical test but did the
    mental test without notes and am certain I would have scored 80+%.

    I had to go back and forth between the questions about the various
    amendments but did not find them that hard.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 14 21:07:31 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:31:08 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >> "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats >> in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    Seems fair - not so long go her supporters were trying to jail her
    opponent...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 14 21:10:33 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:56:13 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    Once again, it's stunning to me that you find these hiring criteria >unconscionable in the first place. But regardless, I didn't lay the hiring >requirements off on Harris. I held her responsible for her DOJ's ridiculous >lawsuits *against* them, claiming blacks are too stupid to do basic math and >reading and women are such complete physical slugs that asking them to jump a >foot in the air or walk a mile-and-a-half is illegal discrimination.

    I'm going to have to go back and re-read the running/walking
    requirement - I thought it was less time than that.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 04:30:43 2024
    moviepig quoted 284 lines of text to bray:

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    Nonsequitur noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

    --
    "The sky was low and heavy, like the brow of a retarded child."

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Oct 15 12:01:23 2024
    On 10/15/2024 12:07 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:31:08 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >>> "equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its
    public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats
    in weaponized federal agencies.

    Yep, when local hiring-thresholds run amok, impeach a Vice President...

    Seems fair - not so long go her supporters were trying to jail her opponent...

    ...and not so long before that, her opponent was trying to jail his.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Oct 15 17:22:04 2024
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    Sat, 12 Oct 2024 05:31:11 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    I hope they win. I hope that attacks on meritocracy in the name of DEI and >>"equity" come to an end and America can start to prioritize excellence in its >>public services again, instead of kowtowing to anti-meritocratic bureaucrats >>in weaponized federal agencies.

    At my age I am doubtful I could pass the physical test but did the
    mental test without notes and am certain I would have scored 80+%.

    I had to go back and forth between the questions about the various
    amendments but did not find them that hard.

    Ukraine isn't making anybody pass a physical agility test. If you can
    carry a rifle, you're in.

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 21 01:58:54 2024
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.atheism.satire, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The Justice Department filed a lawsuit today against the City of South
    Bend, Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police >officers at the South Bend Police Department violates Title VII of the
    Civil Rights Act. Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend
    uses a written examination that discriminates against black applicants
    and a physical fitness test that discriminates against female applicants.




    I hear Harris gave them a direct order because she's in charge now.

    Sounds like they have a plan to ban right wing white Christian men, maybe replace them with illegals who voted for Harris.

    Tucker Carlson calls it white replacement and says it's all over the south,
    in fact whites are so scarce these days they're in a big panic with the election coming.

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