On 2024-10-07 11:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

He's even more flagrant than Trudeau who constantly insists that the
Liberal Party has been fiscal prudence despite having fueled horrific
inflation by printing money and spending money like the proverbial
drunken sailor. Of course, this is a guy who assured us that "budgets
will balance themselves" under his benign leadership and admitted that
he doesn't really think about fiscal matters when asked a finance
question by a journalist. That's why he's got a minor journalist for a
finance minister (and Deputy Prime Minister)!

--
Rhino

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Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally responsible is the same as justifying slavery.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally >responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

Brandon is a seriously weird dude.

I didn't mention this before because I didn't think it made national
news, but I've seen the story on AP.

The Chicago school district, a unit school district, is coterminous with
city of Chicago. It's one of two school boards that's appointed; all
others are elected. Elected school boards are elected in the odd
numbered year with municipal elections but the state legislature put
this one in the even numbered year.

The superintendant is left over from Lori Lightfoot and Hispanic, one of
the few top-ranking jobs still held by Hispanics. Most kids are Mexican immigrants (barely speaking English) or ethnics (first generation). The
black populatin of Chicago is way down and the black school-age
populatio is way down.

Let's get back to the school board. In the transition to an elected
board, the legislature created a long transition period with an elected
board whose terms all expire this year, then half the seats are elected,
with the mayor appointing the other seats. Two years from now, those
will be elected too.

The current board is an interim board, 100% appointed by Brandon.

There's been a fight between the city and school board over the last few
years about pension contributions that are on the municipal budget but
the emoployees perform work for the schools. Brandon, facing BILLIONS in municipal deficits in future fiscal years wanted it shift to the school
board, which merely faces just under a billion deficit. You have no idea
how much the schools spend on fewer and fewer kids.

The teachers want a huge pay rise. Brandon, former teacher and union
organizer whose campaign was paid for by the union, owes them.

He ordered the school superintendant (appointed under Lightfoot) to
borrow tons of monies to be repaid with taxes that haven't been and
won't be authorized by the state legislature. It's imperitive that bonds
are never floated for current year operating revenues for ordinary
expenses like this. The superintendant said "no". Brandon ordered him to resignl He said "no".

In his contract, he gets six months notice to be fired (except for malfeasance). This is typical of a contract of a top municipal staffer
like this because with political change you don't want there to be no transition to a new top staffer. Also the new board might decide to get
along with the guy.

Worse still, the superintendant put out a long list of layoffs of
nonteaching positions (many union jobs) if the teachers received the
huge pay rise.

The head of the teachers' union called the superintendant
"insubordinate".

When several Brandon appointees to the school board decided that they
had a fiduciary duty to the taxpayers they refused to go along with the
plan to borrow monies.

Brandon forced every single one of them to resign. Remeber, these were
his appointees. The mass resignations were announced by the mayor last
Friday.

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On 10/7/24 10:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

I could make it past the first ten seconds. Davis says "and then the
so-called exports" and I have no idea what the fuck he's talking about
because the Oath Keepers sent you a clip that started in mid sentence.

This is interesting: the video in the article is a minute and a half long:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-mayor-discusses-fiscal-responsibility-014258437.html

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson said fiscally responsible stewards are
making the same argument as those who said Black people could not be
freed during the Confederacy because it was too expensive.


Sounds like a very valid analogy. Conclusion: you should leave the group permanently.

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On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 23:54:20 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2024-10-07 11:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

He's even more flagrant than Trudeau who constantly insists that the
Liberal Party has been fiscal prudence despite having fueled horrific >inflation by printing money and spending money like the proverbial
drunken sailor. Of course, this is a guy who assured us that "budgets
will balance themselves" under his benign leadership and admitted that
he doesn't really think about fiscal matters when asked a finance
question by a journalist. That's why he's got a minor journalist for a >finance minister (and Deputy Prime Minister)!

Trudeau DID say that despite having in 2020 run up a deficit equal in
a single year greater than from 1867-2019 combined (yes I do know what
the main news story of 2020 was and why emergency measures were needed
- though he took it higher than needed and for longer than needed)

I told my business partner when the supports started coming out that
he had best plan for a bad round of inflation when the pandemic was
over since politicians being politicians they would keep the emergency financial measures in efflect longer than needed simply to win votes
rather than any true fiscal need.

I'm not anybody special - I was just an experienced small businessman
who had several times learned the hard way that it wasn't cynicism to
be cynical about politicians on a spending spree.....(which is simply
a fancy way of saying I remember 1980-81 and 2008 and what happened
those years)

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 03:16:37 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally >responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

May as well say if you work in a grocery store you're entitled to
"samples". Makes as much sense (ie. none at all)

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On 2024-10-08 1:47 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

Brandon is a seriously weird dude.

I didn't mention this before because I didn't think it made national
news, but I've seen the story on AP.

The Chicago school district, a unit school district, is coterminous with
city of Chicago. It's one of two school boards that's appointed; all
others are elected. Elected school boards are elected in the odd
numbered year with municipal elections but the state legislature put
this one in the even numbered year.

The superintendant is left over from Lori Lightfoot and Hispanic, one of
the few top-ranking jobs still held by Hispanics. Most kids are Mexican immigrants (barely speaking English) or ethnics (first generation). The
black populatin of Chicago is way down and the black school-age
populatio is way down.

Let's get back to the school board. In the transition to an elected
board, the legislature created a long transition period with an elected
board whose terms all expire this year, then half the seats are elected,
with the mayor appointing the other seats. Two years from now, those
will be elected too.

The current board is an interim board, 100% appointed by Brandon.

There's been a fight between the city and school board over the last few years about pension contributions that are on the municipal budget but
the emoployees perform work for the schools. Brandon, facing BILLIONS in municipal deficits in future fiscal years wanted it shift to the school board, which merely faces just under a billion deficit. You have no idea
how much the schools spend on fewer and fewer kids.

The teachers want a huge pay rise. Brandon, former teacher and union organizer whose campaign was paid for by the union, owes them.

He ordered the school superintendant (appointed under Lightfoot) to
borrow tons of monies to be repaid with taxes that haven't been and
won't be authorized by the state legislature. It's imperitive that bonds
are never floated for current year operating revenues for ordinary
expenses like this. The superintendant said "no". Brandon ordered him to resignl He said "no".

In his contract, he gets six months notice to be fired (except for malfeasance). This is typical of a contract of a top municipal staffer
like this because with political change you don't want there to be no transition to a new top staffer. Also the new board might decide to get
along with the guy.

Worse still, the superintendant put out a long list of layoffs of
nonteaching positions (many union jobs) if the teachers received the
huge pay rise.

The head of the teachers' union called the superintendant
"insubordinate".

When several Brandon appointees to the school board decided that they
had a fiduciary duty to the taxpayers they refused to go along with the
plan to borrow monies.

Brandon forced every single one of them to resign. Remeber, these were
his appointees. The mass resignations were announced by the mayor last Friday.

How did he force his own appointees to resign? And given that he was
presumably beholden to them in some way or was currying favour with
them, how does he survive the backlash of their inevitable displeasure
at being "un-hired"?

Do you have some kind of impeachment process to get rid of a bad mayor
or are you stuck with him until the end of his term? His fiscal
shenanigans seem to be obvious to everyone so you'd think booting him
out would be a popular move.

--
Rhino

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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2024-10-08 1:47 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

. . .

When several Brandon appointees to the school board decided that they
had a fiduciary duty to the taxpayers they refused to go along with the >>plan to borrow monies.

Brandon forced every single one of them to resign. Remeber, these were
his appointees. The mass resignations were announced by the mayor last >>Friday.

How did he force his own appointees to resign?

I don't know. It's an unpaid position and they probably figured it was
no worth the hassle.

And given that he was presumably beholden to them in some way or was
currying favour with them, how does he survive the backlash of their >inevitable displeasure at being "un-hired"?

He doesn't appear to care about re-election, but voters are stupid.

Do you have some kind of impeachment process to get rid of a bad mayor
or are you stuck with him until the end of his term? His fiscal
shenanigans seem to be obvious to everyone so you'd think booting him
out would be a popular move.

I know of no impeachment proces.

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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 03:16:37 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

May as well say if you work in a grocery store you're entitled to
"samples". Makes as much sense (ie. none at all)

This new DEATH IN PARADISE spin off (which has nothing to do with the
original) RETURN TO PARADISE has a civilian assistant working with the cops
who steals stuff from crime scenes and explains it away as the police being entitled to “free samples“

I keep hoping someone will shoot her dead.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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On Oct 7, 2024 at 10:47:44 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: Arguing that forcing governments to be
fiscally
responsible is the same as justifying slavery.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1843441021272600576/vid/avc1/1288x720/bwQpZE7ApUjIgtgt.mp4?tag=16

Brandon is a seriously weird dude.

I didn't mention this before because I didn't think it made national
news, but I've seen the story on AP.

The Chicago school district, a unit school district, is coterminous with
city of Chicago. It's one of two school boards that's appointed; all
others are elected. Elected school boards are elected in the odd
numbered year with municipal elections but the state legislature put
this one in the even numbered year.

The superintendant is left over from Lori Lightfoot and Hispanic, one of
the few top-ranking jobs still held by Hispanics. Most kids are Mexican immigrants (barely speaking English) or ethnics (first generation). The
black populatin of Chicago is way down and the black school-age
populatio is way down.

Let's get back to the school board. In the transition to an elected
board, the legislature created a long transition period with an elected
board whose terms all expire this year, then half the seats are elected,
with the mayor appointing the other seats. Two years from now, those
will be elected too.

The current board is an interim board, 100% appointed by Brandon.

There's been a fight between the city and school board over the last few years about pension contributions that are on the municipal budget but
the emoployees perform work for the schools. Brandon, facing BILLIONS in municipal deficits in future fiscal years wanted it shift to the school board, which merely faces just under a billion deficit. You have no idea
how much the schools spend on fewer and fewer kids.

Oh, sure I do. We have LAUSD, which is every bit as much a corrupt hive of
scum and villainy as your school district. They've been seeing not just white flight, but black, brown, and Asian flight, for years. They've had to close entire schools because of lack of students. And all because LAUSD puts out a failing product. The kids who do go to school there graduate high school without knowing how to read, write, or do basic math at rates of 40% or more. Yet they still graduate somehow. And, of course, the California Teacher's Union-- the second-most powerful union in the state-- demands raises for the teachers even as they churn out illiterate students year after year.

The number of students has been perking up lately thanks to Kammie Harris's free-for-all at the border. All the illegal kids actually had them pulling one of those old closed schools out of mothballs and repopulating it. Now they
just need the personnel to run it.

The teachers want a huge pay rise. Brandon, former teacher and union organizer whose campaign was paid for by the union, owes them.

He ordered the school superintendant (appointed under Lightfoot) to
borrow tons of monies to be repaid with taxes that haven't been and
won't be authorized by the state legislature. It's imperitive that bonds
are never floated for current year operating revenues for ordinary
expenses like this. The superintendant said "no". Brandon ordered him to resignl He said "no".

In his contract, he gets six months notice to be fired (except for malfeasance). This is typical of a contract of a top municipal staffer
like this because with political change you don't want there to be no transition to a new top staffer. Also the new board might decide to get
along with the guy.

Worse still, the superintendant put out a long list of layoffs of
nonteaching positions (many union jobs) if the teachers received the
huge pay rise.

The head of the teachers' union called the superintendant
"insubordinate".

Insubordinate to whom? The union? Hahahahahaha

When several Brandon appointees to the school board decided that they
had a fiduciary duty to the taxpayers they refused to go along with the
plan to borrow monies.

Brandon forced every single one of them to resign. Remeber, these were
his appointees. The mass resignations were announced by the mayor last Friday.

Sounds like your mayor and Karen Bass went to the same school of political fuckery.

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