• [OT] Police stop giving last names of missing people

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 20 15:41:30 2024
    This article indicates that police in Saanich (a suburb of Victoria, BC)
    and various other jurisdictions have decided to only identify missing
    people by first name and picture, omitting the last name. They've also
    decided NOT to indicate if the person was found alive or dead when they announce that a search is over.

    https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-police-drop-surnames-missing-person-alerts

    The first of those makes *some* sense, based on the reasoning put
    forward, but not that much. If person is missing and a business wants
    to go through credit card records to see if and when that person
    patronized their business, how are they supposed to do that with only a
    first name and a picture to go on, given that they almost certainly
    don't have a picture in their records but DO have a last name so that
    they can tell Mike Smith from Mike Jones.

    I do NOT understand why mentioning whether the search for the missing
    person ended with finding the person alive or dead is "better" for
    anyone, except possibly in the case of the family wanting to suffer
    their grief privately if they lost someone and not be bombarded with condolences.

    I would argue that the general public has some right to know how such
    searches end. Our regional police seem to follow the same policies and
    one recent case featured a news story saying only the search for the
    missing individual was over and thanks to those who searched. I was left
    with no idea of if the person had survived or died. I have no desire to
    invade the family's privacy but I'd gain a degree of comfort from
    knowing that the person was found safe and sound or at least alive. I'd
    also like to know if they were found dead and if that death marked any
    kind of hazard to ME. Is an uncaught serial killer lurking amongst us?
    Do I need to avoid certain areas?

    The paternalism of the police in deciding that I don't need to know
    concerns me.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Aug 20 20:20:24 2024
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    This article indicates that police in Saanich (a suburb of Victoria, BC)
    and various other jurisdictions have decided to only identify missing
    people by first name and picture, omitting the last name. They've also >decided NOT to indicate if the person was found alive or dead when they >announce that a search is over.

    I, uh, what? How can anybody justify covering up major crimes, or the circumstances of death (other than of natural causes)? That's absolutely necessary public information, critical so the police cannot cover up the
    most important investigations?

    https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-police-drop-surnames-missing-person-alerts

    I agree with the rest of what you wrote.

    . . .

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Aug 20 16:34:39 2024
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    This article indicates that police in Saanich (a suburb of Victoria, BC)
    and various other jurisdictions have decided to only identify missing
    people by first name and picture, omitting the last name. They've also decided NOT to indicate if the person was found alive or dead when they announce that a search is over.

    https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-police-drop-surnames-missing-person-alerts

    The first of those makes *some* sense, based on the reasoning put
    forward, but not that much. If person is missing and a business wants
    to go through credit card records to see if and when that person
    patronized their business, how are they supposed to do that with only a
    first name and a picture to go on, given that they almost certainly
    don't have a picture in their records but DO have a last name so that
    they can tell Mike Smith from Mike Jones.

    I do NOT understand why mentioning whether the search for the missing
    person ended with finding the person alive or dead is "better" for
    anyone,

    It’s better for local government to not mention they’ve never found anyone alive.






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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 20 23:14:53 2024
    On 2024-08-20 7:34 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    This article indicates that police in Saanich (a suburb of Victoria, BC)
    and various other jurisdictions have decided to only identify missing
    people by first name and picture, omitting the last name. They've also
    decided NOT to indicate if the person was found alive or dead when they
    announce that a search is over.

    https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-police-drop-surnames-missing-person-alerts >>
    The first of those makes *some* sense, based on the reasoning put
    forward, but not that much. If person is missing and a business wants
    to go through credit card records to see if and when that person
    patronized their business, how are they supposed to do that with only a
    first name and a picture to go on, given that they almost certainly
    don't have a picture in their records but DO have a last name so that
    they can tell Mike Smith from Mike Jones.

    I do NOT understand why mentioning whether the search for the missing
    person ended with finding the person alive or dead is "better" for
    anyone,

    It’s better for local government to not mention they’ve never found anyone
    alive.

    That sounds more than a little cynical yet, given the ever-crappier job
    the police seem to be doing, it may well be 100% right.


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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Aug 21 23:13:00 2024
    On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:41:30 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I would argue that the general public has some right to know how such >searches end. Our regional police seem to follow the same policies and
    one recent case featured a news story saying only the search for the
    missing individual was over and thanks to those who searched. I was left
    with no idea of if the person had survived or died. I have no desire to >invade the family's privacy but I'd gain a degree of comfort from
    knowing that the person was found safe and sound or at least alive. I'd
    also like to know if they were found dead and if that death marked any
    kind of hazard to ME. Is an uncaught serial killer lurking amongst us?
    Do I need to avoid certain areas?

    The paternalism of the police in deciding that I don't need to know
    concerns me.

    I agree with Rhino - my mother's death was not a criminal or missing
    person death but it WAS spectacular enough I had to deal with 3
    separate reporters in the week after her passing and I have a surname
    rare enough to tell anybody who knew her exactly what had happened.

    Wasn't easy or anything but a horrific week but we got through it and
    got on with our new situation.

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