• The Media's Complicity in Kammie's Phantom Record

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 8 13:30:42 2024
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a
    minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was
    attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber
    (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has
    resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash
    pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking
    heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman
    they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three
    years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    They're saying she never advocated for bailing out BLM rioters. She did.

    They've completely re-written history on her border enforcement
    assignment. Using tactics of which Stalin would have been proud, they've scrubbed their archives of all references to her as the "border czar" as
    she was being called at the time.

    And when Harris *has* talked about the border, going back to her time in
    office in California, here's what she was in favor of:

    --Cradle-to-grave taxpayer-funded health care for all illegal aliens

    --Closing all detention centers for illegals who are awaiting
    deportation proceedings

    --Decriminalizing illegal infiltration across the border

    --Abolishing/dissolving ICE (she compared ICE to the Ku Klux Klan)

    --Advocates granting professional licenses to illegals, including law
    licenses

    --Advocates allowing illegals to serve as police officers. (Think about
    that: under Kammie Harris, American citizens could be arrested by
    foreign nationals whose very presence in the country is a crime.)

    Now this masterpiece:

    https://ibb.co/vcF0bJM

    "Despite the fact that she's been an advocate for gun confiscation for
    at least the last decade and a half, she now says she's not banning guns
    and that's good enough for us media fact-checkers. Publish!"

    Literally every far-Left position she's had for 20 years is suddenly
    either being denied and memory-holed or she's done a full 180 on it and
    now doesn't believe what she's always believed.

    And they think you're stupid enough to fall for it.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 8 18:30:25 2024
    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a
    minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber
    (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash
    pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman
    they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three
    years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged. I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following. From The Guardian:

    ----------------
    Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential
    nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal, a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy, and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce their meat
    eating.
    ...
    Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has followed
    the Biden administration approach that allows fracking, although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to limit the emission
    of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often escapes during fracking.
    Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris to an anti-fracking
    stance, seeking to damage her position in key states such as
    Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North Carolina, last week.
    “You’re going to be paying a lot of money. You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back Trump’.”
    ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid. In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking". Did The Guardian somehow
    elude the Progressives' sharpie? Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Aug 8 18:58:09 2024
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the
    only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all
    taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all
    while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the
    woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the
    past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged. I chose 'fracking' and, with no difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following. From The Guardian:

    ----------------
    Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal,
    a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
    ...
    Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris
    to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid. In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking". Did The Guardian somehow
    elude the Progressives' sharpie? Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans?
    If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication.
    Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of American voters.


    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Aug 8 23:26:16 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a
    minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was >attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber
    (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has >resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime >spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash
    pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking >heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their >marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman
    they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three
    years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    I'm against fracking given the impact on the underground acquifer
    pollution and earthquakes in Oklahoma.

    They're saying she never advocated for bailing out BLM rioters. She did.

    They've completely re-written history on her border enforcement
    assignment. Using tactics of which Stalin would have been proud, they've >scrubbed their archives of all references to her as the "border czar" as
    she was being called at the time.

    And when Harris *has* talked about the border, going back to her time in >office in California, here's what she was in favor of:

    --Cradle-to-grave taxpayer-funded health care for all illegal aliens

    If I can qualify for this, I'm in favor. I'm either a refugee from
    Padagonia, Glocca Mora, or Brigadoon.

    --Closing all detention centers for illegals who are awaiting
    deportation proceedings

    Self deportation?

    . . .

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Aug 8 19:51:17 2024
    In article <v93k6o$ag8c$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a >minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was >attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber >(Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has >resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime >spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash >pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking >heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their >marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman >they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three >years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    I'm against fracking given the impact on the underground acquifer
    pollution and earthquakes in Oklahoma.

    They're saying she never advocated for bailing out BLM rioters. She did.

    They've completely re-written history on her border enforcement
    assignment. Using tactics of which Stalin would have been proud, they've >scrubbed their archives of all references to her as the "border czar" as >she was being called at the time.

    And when Harris *has* talked about the border, going back to her time in >office in California, here's what she was in favor of:

    --Cradle-to-grave taxpayer-funded health care for all illegal aliens

    If I can qualify for this, I'm in favor. I'm either a refugee from
    Padagonia, Glocca Mora, or Brigadoon.

    HairGel Newsom has already implemented this at the state level. All you
    have to do is drag yourself across the border and Gavin will use our
    money to take care of your health care for free until you die. American citizens still have to pay, of course.

    I've often wondered how they tell if you're really an illegal or not.
    Isn't one of the defining characteristics of being an illegal a lack of documentation? Which means health care facilities just have to be taking
    their word for it. So what's to stop me from dumping my health insurance
    and just claiming to be an illegal at the hospital and getting all my
    health care for free?

    Will there come a time when they will actually make it a criminal
    offense for an American citizen to impersonate an illegal or a vagrant
    for purposes of obtaining all the free shit they get that normal people
    have to pay for?

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Aug 8 18:30:42 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    And they think you're stupid enough to fall for it.

    They know the typical Democrat voter very well.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Aug 9 11:33:07 2024
    On 8/8/2024 6:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the
    only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the
    combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all
    taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all
    while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the
    woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the
    past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged. I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following. From The Guardian:

    ----------------
    Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential
    nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal,
    a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
    ...
    Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris
    to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North
    Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back
    Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid. In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking". Did The Guardian somehow
    elude the Progressives' sharpie? Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans?
    If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication. Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of American voters.

    The Guardian was the first publication I Googled. Again, what *if any*
    major media outlet is no longer supplying the same information?

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Aug 9 08:38:34 2024
    On 8/9/2024 8:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 8/8/2024 6:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the
    only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the
    combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all
    taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all
    while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the
    woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the
    past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.
    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged.  I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following.  From The Guardian:

    ----------------
         Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential >>> nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal,
    a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
         ...
         Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris
    to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North
    Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back >>> Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid.  In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking".  Did The Guardian somehow
    elude the Progressives' sharpie?  Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans?
    If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication.
    Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of
    American voters.

    The Guardian was the first publication I Googled.  Again, what *if any* major media outlet is no longer supplying the same information?

    It covers a lot of US and world news, not just British. I first read it
    during the initial invasion of Ukraine.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Fri Aug 9 12:20:43 2024
    On 8/9/2024 11:38 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/9/2024 8:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 8/8/2024 6:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the
    only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the
    combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all
    taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all
    while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the
    woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the
    past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.
    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged.  I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following.  From The Guardian:

    ----------------
         Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential >>>> nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal,
    a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
         ...
         Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris
    to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North
    Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back >>>> Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid.  In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking".  Did The Guardian somehow >>>> elude the Progressives' sharpie?  Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans?
    If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication.
    Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of
    American voters.

    The Guardian was the first publication I Googled.  Again, what *if
    any* major media outlet is no longer supplying the same information?

    It covers a lot of US and world news, not just British. I first read it during the initial invasion of Ukraine.

    MediaBiasFactCheck rates them as slightly left of center. Informally I
    find them willing to be opinionated but short of stark raving.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 9 09:48:41 2024
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged. I chose 'fracking' and, with no >difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following. From The Guardian:

    Now this paper 'The Guardian' is the paper formerly known as "The
    Manchester Guardian" which is in a jurisdiction rather outside that of
    the state of California or any other state.

    I assume everyone knows Manchester is in the UK?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Fri Aug 9 09:51:03 2024
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 23:26:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    If I can qualify for this, I'm in favor. I'm either a refugee from
    Padagonia, Glocca Mora, or Brigadoon.


    Ditto - I don't mind driving down to Bellingham, WA if I can save my
    BC MSP (aka British Columbia Medical Services Plan) premiums....

    Hey my father was born in the US - why would I need to be a refugee?

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Fri Aug 9 15:07:36 2024
    In article <v93k6o$ag8c$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    I'm against fracking given the impact on the underground acquifer
    pollution and earthquakes in Oklahoma.

    You might want to educate yourself on the subject so you don't make ignorant statements on the topic in the future.

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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    * Political Correctness strives to impose innocuous mediocrity as the *
    * standard to which we must all aspire. * *************************************************************************

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Aug 9 15:28:18 2024
    On 8/9/2024 12:48 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged. I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following. From The Guardian:

    Now this paper 'The Guardian' is the paper formerly known as "The
    Manchester Guardian" which is in a jurisdiction rather outside that of
    the state of California or any other state.

    I assume everyone knows Manchester is in the UK?

    They apparently have 5 editions: UK, US, Australia, Europe, and Int'l.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Fri Aug 9 15:57:56 2024
    On 2024-08-09 11:38 a.m., suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/9/2024 8:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 8/8/2024 6:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the
    only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the
    combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all
    taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all
    while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the
    woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the
    past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.
    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged.  I chose 'fracking' and, with no
    difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following.  From The Guardian:

    ----------------
         Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential >>>> nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal,
    a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
         ...
         Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris
    to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North
    Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back >>>> Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid.  In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking".  Did The Guardian somehow >>>> elude the Progressives' sharpie?  Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans?
    If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication.
    Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of
    American voters.

    The Guardian was the first publication I Googled.  Again, what *if
    any* major media outlet is no longer supplying the same information?

    It covers a lot of US and world news, not just British. I first read it during the initial invasion of Ukraine.

    I'm well aware of that and I don't doubt that some Americans read it for
    that coverage. But how many? I submit that the numbers are going to be
    very small compared to US outlets.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Aug 9 17:32:36 2024
    On 8/9/2024 3:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-08-09 11:38 a.m., suzeeq wrote:
    On 8/9/2024 8:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 8/8/2024 6:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:30:25 -0400
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and >>>>>> mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for
    about a minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments
    there. She was attorney general in California for six years and the >>>>>> only thing she managed to do there was use her office to lie and
    help Dumb and Dumber (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the
    combination of which has resulted in the collapse of the state's
    criminal justice system, crime spiraling out of control, and our
    cities transformed into violent trash pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and
    talking heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all >>>>>> taking their marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has
    this stellar record of achievement and somehow managed to do it all >>>>>> while being a black woman. Never forget the black woman part.
    That's the most important thing, which is curious from a party
    whose members can't even define what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the >>>>>> woman they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the >>>>>> past three years is now the most amazing and natural leader since
    Jesus Christ walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.
    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris >>>>> media archives have been expunged.  I chose 'fracking' and, with no >>>>> difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following.  From The Guardian: >>>>>
    ----------------
         Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential >>>>> nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal, >>>>> a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy,
    and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce
    their meat eating.
         ...
         Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has
    followed the Biden administration approach that allows fracking,
    although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to
    limit the emission of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often
    escapes during fracking. Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris >>>>> to an anti-fracking stance, seeking to damage her position in key
    states such as Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no
    fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North >>>>> Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money.
    You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back >>>>> Trump’.” ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid.  In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking".  Did The Guardian somehow >>>>> elude the Progressives' sharpie?  Which major media outlets are you >>>>> claiming won't easily divulge the same information?

    So your theory is that the Guardian is widely read/viewed by Americans? >>>> If so, give your head a shake. The Guardian is a British publication.
    Americans are a whole lot more likely to use ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN
    and major American newspapers to follow the news. What the Guardian
    does or does not publish is not going to matter to the vast majority of >>>> American voters.

    The Guardian was the first publication I Googled.  Again, what *if
    any* major media outlet is no longer supplying the same information?

    It covers a lot of US and world news, not just British. I first read
    it during the initial invasion of Ukraine.

    I'm well aware of that and I don't doubt that some Americans read it for
    that coverage. But how many? I submit that the numbers are going to be
    very small compared to US outlets.

    The point was -- and *is* -- that I easily found a known media outlet
    who, contrary to what you bemoaned, does recount Harris's anti-fracking history. I'm still waiting for the name of even one that doesn't...

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Aug 10 03:20:14 2024
    On 8/8/24 5:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 8/8/2024 4:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a
    minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was
    attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber
    (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has
    resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime
    spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash
    pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking
    heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their
    marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman
    they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three
    years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    [long anti-Harris litany deleted]

    So... I decided to spot-check your very concerning claim that Harris
    media archives have been expunged.  I chose 'fracking' and, with no difficulty whatsoever, uncovered the following.  From The Guardian:

    ----------------
       Harris had previously, as a candidate for the 2020 presidential nomination, vowed to ban fracking, as well as back a Green New Deal, a progressive resolution to shift the US to 100% renewable energy, and new government dietary guidelines to encourage people to reduce their meat eating.
       ...
       Since becoming vice-president in 2021, however, Harris has followed
    the Biden administration approach that allows fracking, although the Environmental Protection Agency has drawn up rules to limit the emission
    of methane, a potent greenhouse gas that often escapes during fracking.
       Trump has nevertheless sought to tie Harris to an anti-fracking
    stance, seeking to damage her position in key states such as
    Pennsylvania, a fracking hotspot. “She wants no fracking,” the former president told supporters in Charlotte, North Carolina, last week. “You’re going to be paying a lot of money. You’re going to be paying so much. You’re going to say, ‘bring back Trump’.”
    ----------------

    Seems to me pretty direct and candid.  In particular, there's no
    "pretense she didn't want to ban fracking".  Did The Guardian somehow
    elude the Progressives' sharpie?  Which major media outlets are you
    claiming won't easily divulge the same information?


    Oath Keeper Twat is losing it and it's fun to watch.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 10 03:16:21 2024
    On 8/8/24 3:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.


    Haven't heard anything about his health. Is this from something "Ronny
    Johnson" has said? As for his mental state, if you can't compare him to Trump's sounding like vegetable every time he opens his stupid fucking
    mouth you have no credibility whatsoever. Hope this helps.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 10 03:25:25 2024
    On 8/8/24 9:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v93k6o$ag8c$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president, she was a senator for about a
    minute and a half and had no noteworthy accomplishments there. She was
    attorney general in California for six years and the only thing she
    managed to do there was use her office to lie and help Dumb and Dumber
    (Brown and Newsom) pass Props 47 and 57, the combination of which has
    resulted in the collapse of the state's criminal justice system, crime
    spiraling out of control, and our cities transformed into violent trash
    pits.

    And now everyone from the hags on THE VIEW to media anchors and talking
    heads, to Democrat politicians across the country, are all taking their
    marching orders from the DNC and pretending she has this stellar record
    of achievement and somehow managed to do it all while being a black
    woman. Never forget the black woman part. That's the most important
    thing, which is curious from a party whose members can't even define
    what a woman is.

    The same way they closed ranks and pretended Biden was mentally
    competent for years, they're now doing the same and pretending the woman >>> they regularly called a liability for the Biden team for the past three
    years is now the most amazing and natural leader since Jesus Christ
    walked on water.

    They're pretending she didn't want to ban fracking. She did.

    I'm against fracking given the impact on the underground acquifer
    pollution and earthquakes in Oklahoma.

    They're saying she never advocated for bailing out BLM rioters. She did.

    They've completely re-written history on her border enforcement
    assignment. Using tactics of which Stalin would have been proud, they've >>> scrubbed their archives of all references to her as the "border czar" as >>> she was being called at the time.

    And when Harris *has* talked about the border, going back to her time in >>> office in California, here's what she was in favor of:

    --Cradle-to-grave taxpayer-funded health care for all illegal aliens

    If I can qualify for this, I'm in favor. I'm either a refugee from
    Padagonia, Glocca Mora, or Brigadoon.

    HairGel Newsom


    Holy fuck, Verman is too fucking stupid to spell "Patagonia" now? He
    always came off as somewhat educated. Is his cognitive ability
    declining like Trump's?

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 10 03:19:08 2024
    On 8/8/24 3:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    The media went from lying for 3 1/2 years about Biden's health and
    mental state to now lying that Kammie Harris is capable of being
    president.

    She's been a disaster as vice president,


    Wow, you're desperate now. She's going to be President, that fat fuck
    Trump doesn't stand a chance. That's the real issue. Oh, and how was
    Pence as Vice President? Who were the real good Vice Presidents? This
    is utter horseshit because you're desperate as fuck.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sat Aug 10 03:21:00 2024
    On 8/8/24 5:30 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    And they think you're stupid enough to fall for it.

    They know the typical Democrat voter very well.


    Who the fuck are "they" you stupid shitposting troll?

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