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Please tell me, is there any modern Simple Offline Usenet Packet (SOUP) software in existence? I.e. something that could get new messages from a
NNTP server and create SOUP packets (and process reply packets?).
Something like https://github.com/OS2World/APP-INTERNET-uqwk
It was last updated in 2000 and does not support TLS.

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George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> wrote:

Please tell me, is there any modern Simple Offline Usenet Packet (SOUP) software in existence? I.e. something that could get new messages from a
NNTP server and create SOUP packets (and process reply packets?).
Something like https://github.com/OS2World/APP-INTERNET-uqwk
It was last updated in 2000 and does not support TLS.

Which operating system do you use and which newsreader do you (want
to) use?

If you're not tied to a newsreader which processes SOUP, you might
want to use a local 'proxy' news server like Hamster (if Windows) or
Leafnode (if Linux). These local news servers sit between your newsreader
(any NNTP newsreader) and your real news server (the news server of your
NSP (News Service Provider), i.e. in your case BWH).

FYI, in the old days I used uqwk on UNIX with the YARN newsreader on
DOS. These days (since 2003) I use Hamster (on Windows) with the tin
newsreader (under Cygwin on Windows).

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On 8 Apr 2024 11:48:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Which operating system do you use and which newsreader do you (want
to) use?

If you're not tied to a newsreader which processes SOUP, you might
want to use a local 'proxy' news server like Hamster (if Windows) or
Leafnode (if Linux). These local news servers sit between your
newsreader (any NNTP newsreader) and your real news server (the news
server of your NSP (News Service Provider), i.e. in your case BWH).

FYI, in the old days I used uqwk on UNIX with the YARN newsreader on
DOS. These days (since 2003) I use Hamster (on Windows) with the tin newsreader (under Cygwin on Windows).

I wanted to experiment with MultiMail (in Linux or something), because it
looks cute.
Maybe it would've worked like
proxy news server <-> uqwk <-> mm
If uqwk would compile of course.
But Leafnode doesn't support TLS too.
Uqwk can also get news from a directory.

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George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> wrote:

On 8 Apr 2024 11:48:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Which operating system do you use and which newsreader do you (want
to) use?

If you're not tied to a newsreader which processes SOUP, you might
want to use a local 'proxy' news server like Hamster (if Windows) or Leafnode (if Linux). These local news servers sit between your
newsreader (any NNTP newsreader) and your real news server (the news
server of your NSP (News Service Provider), i.e. in your case BWH).

FYI, in the old days I used uqwk on UNIX with the YARN newsreader on
DOS. These days (since 2003) I use Hamster (on Windows) with the tin newsreader (under Cygwin on Windows).

I wanted to experiment with MultiMail (in Linux or something), because it looks cute.
Maybe it would've worked like
proxy news server <-> uqwk <-> mm

Which server/service *requires* TLS? Of course on some servers/
services you *can* use TLS, but often it's optional. For example my NSP, News.Individual.Net, does not require TLS.

If uqwk would compile of course.

Why wouldn't it compile/build? I built uqwk on HP-UX (HP's version of
UNIX) sometime in the 90s, so I don't see why it wouldn't compile/build
now.

But Leafnode doesn't support TLS too.
Uqwk can also get news from a directory.

Speaking of proxies, I seem to remember that there are some general
purpose proxy servers which do plain-password on one end and things like
TLS on the other end. There's one for Windows, but I don't remember the
name. I'm sure there's something similar for Linux.

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On 9 Apr 2024 09:30:49 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Which server/service *requires* TLS? Of course on some servers/
services you *can* use TLS, but often it's optional. For example my NSP, News.Individual.Net, does not require TLS.

It's not required, I just thought it's a good thing to have it.

Why wouldn't it compile/build? I built uqwk on HP-UX (HP's version of
UNIX) sometime in the 90s, so I don't see why it wouldn't compile/build
now.

Sometimes things break over time, it would be great, if it's so well
written and everything is so compatible that it would work right away, of course.

Speaking of proxies, I seem to remember that there are some general
purpose proxy servers which do plain-password on one end and things like
TLS on the other end. There's one for Windows, but I don't remember the name. I'm sure there's something similar for Linux.

Seems like it is possible to do with stunnel.
Maybe I'll try it.

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George Musk <grgmusk@skiff.com> wrote:

On 9 Apr 2024 09:30:49 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]

Speaking of proxies, I seem to remember that there are some general purpose proxy servers which do plain-password on one end and things like TLS on the other end. There's one for Windows, but I don't remember the name. I'm sure there's something similar for Linux.

Seems like it is possible to do with stunnel.
Maybe I'll try it.

Yes, stunnel was what I was thinking of, but the name just didn't pop
up in my mind! :-)

And it's available for Windows and Linux (and several other OSs), so
you're all set.

Good luck

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