• Re: Google-groups

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to conanospamic@gmail.com on Sun Feb 18 20:38:16 2024
    In article <oIjzxAtgBbn69HaNe872eF2VJSE@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 18/02/2024 à 19:36, Richard Harnden a écrit :

    They stopped new posts from some, but not all, groups.
    They have promised to depeer themselves completely on the 22nd.

    Which means all the spam will move to those servers that handle binaries
    - simply because those admins either don't care, or won't notice because
    then increase in bandwidth is basically zero for them.

    Spammers will have to pay this servers to post spam which will be almost >useless regarding to usenet population, and even the configuration will be >harder to understand for them, I don't think they still have bots designed >for usenet. So I think there will be very few of them, even legit users
    who have been told for weeks to use something else than Google struggle
    with it, so we can hope that it will be almost zero.

    almost 0 being the key.
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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 22:12:37 2024
    On 18.02.2024 um 19:41 Uhr Eric M wrote:

    Spammers will have to pay this servers to post spam which will be
    almost useless regarding to usenet population, and even the
    configuration will be harder to understand for them, I don't think
    they still have bots designed for usenet. So I think there will be
    very few of them, even legit users who have been told for weeks to
    use something else than Google struggle with it, so we can hope that
    it will be almost zero.

    One of the spammers use Abavia and they post generated content
    (looks like a KI discussion) there.
    Some also use vipernews/uzoreto for normal spam.

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    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to muell456@cartoonies.org

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  • From yamo'@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 12:00:51 2024
    Hi,
    Spiros Bousbouras a tapot :

    In just 1 group (comp.lang.lisp) in the last 2 days I see the following spam posts not from googlegroups :

    <ee4tsi5s9iklcr6eu3abk9bi0lu174tc8r@4ax.com>

    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.excel,microsoft.public.mac.office.word
    ,microsoft.public.word.vba.beginners,microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
    ,soc.culture.punjab,microsoft.public.platformsdk.security,comp.lang.lisp
    ,microsoft.public.windows.server.networking,comp.lang.perl.misc
    ,dbase.programming


    That why I'm filtering the Path : news.xlned.com


    --
    Stphane

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 13:05:53 2024
    Thus spake yamo' <yamo@beurdin.invalid>



    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.excel,microsoft.public.mac.office.word
    ,microsoft.public.word.vba.beginners,microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
    ,soc.culture.punjab,microsoft.public.platformsdk.security,comp.lang.lisp
    ,microsoft.public.windows.server.networking,comp.lang.perl.misc
    ,dbase.programming

    Crosspost to 10 groups.

    That's why this spam doesn't even make it to the spam filter, i.e. the
    article is rejected long before nocems would be generated.

    That why I'm filtering the Path : news.xlned.com

    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this can be changed any
    time and their spam is much more sophisticated than the Google spam we
    have seen so far.

    --
    Пу́тін — хуйло́
    https://www.eternal-september.org

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Mon Feb 19 15:07:19 2024
    Ray Banana wrote:

    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they
    have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this can
    be changed any time and their spam is much more sophisticated than
    the Google spam we have seen so far.

    That explains it!!! I was using an Abavia re-seller from the
    Netherlands and anything I replied to with a lot of cross-posts
    'disappeared' (as in, caught in a spam filter somewhere). Some of my
    own posts never made it through if they were cross-posted and/or
    contained URL links.

    I didn't realise Abavia were irresponsible.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Mon Feb 19 09:02:32 2024
    On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 16:24:49 +0100, Ray Banana wrote:

    Thus spake "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>

    Ray Banana wrote:
    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they
    have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this can
    be changed any time and their spam is much more sophisticated than
    the Google spam we have seen so far.
    That explains it!!! I was using an Abavia re-seller from the
    Netherlands and anything I replied to with a lot of cross-posts
    'disappeared' (as in, caught in a spam filter somewhere). Some of my
    own posts never made it through if they were cross-posted and/or
    contained URL links.

    If these were false positives, I would appreciate a couple of M-IDs to double-check.

    Yes please, as Ray says, if you could post a MID of suspected false
    positives, it helps all NoCeM senders to improve our filters to avoid such things :)

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 16:24:49 2024
    Thus spake "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>

    Ray Banana wrote:
    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they
    have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this can
    be changed any time and their spam is much more sophisticated than
    the Google spam we have seen so far.
    That explains it!!! I was using an Abavia re-seller from the
    Netherlands and anything I replied to with a lot of cross-posts
    'disappeared' (as in, caught in a spam filter somewhere). Some of my
    own posts never made it through if they were cross-posted and/or
    contained URL links.

    If these were false positives, I would appreciate a couple of M-IDs to double-check.

    I didn't realise Abavia were irresponsible.

    They were polite, but indifferent ;-)
    --
    Пу́тін — хуйло́
    https://www.eternal-september.org

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Feb 19 17:08:08 2024
    In article <xn0oi9ioh1ye3aq009@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Ray Banana wrote:

    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they
    have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this can
    be changed any time and their spam is much more sophisticated than
    the Google spam we have seen so far.

    That explains it!!! I was using an Abavia re-seller from the
    Netherlands and anything I replied to with a lot of cross-posts
    'disappeared' (as in, caught in a spam filter somewhere). Some of my
    own posts never made it through if they were cross-posted and/or
    contained URL links.

    I didn't realise Abavia were irresponsible.

    I wonder if I should add them in!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen The ignorant won't rest until everyone is as dumb as they are. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Mon Feb 19 20:35:46 2024
    Ray Banana wrote:

    Thus spake "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>

    Ray Banana wrote:
    news.xlned.com is also listed as a source of interest on E-S.
    Even more interesting is abavia.com, who have been sending up to
    3000 spam articles per day for more than 3 months. So far they
    have only focussed on the German hierarchy, but I'm sure this
    be changed any time and their spam is much more
    sophisticated than the Google spam we have seen so far.

    That explains it!!! I was using an Abavia re-seller from the
    Netherlands and anything I replied to with a lot of cross-posts 'disappeared' (as in, caught in a spam filter somewhere). Some
    of my own posts never made it through if they were cross-posted
    and/or contained URL links.

    If these were false positives, I would appreciate a couple of
    M-IDs to double-check.

    Eternal-september actually carried the messages, so it wasn't a
    problem with your server. The 'missing' messages were posted via my
    XS News account (reader.xsnews.nl) with Abavia.com [automatically]
    in the organisation header. The person on RADW that said they didn't
    see my original post(s) and only saw the replies to them was using news.kruemel.org. So I am assuming the problem lies in that
    direction. Everyone else seemed to see the posts and replied
    normally. (The messages reached GG too.)

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Feb 22 15:19:56 2024
    On 2/18/24 14:38, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <oIjzxAtgBbn69HaNe872eF2VJSE@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 18/02/2024 à 19:36, Richard Harnden a écrit :

    They stopped new posts from some, but not all, groups.
    They have promised to depeer themselves completely on the 22nd.

    Which means all the spam will move to those servers that handle binaries >>> - simply because those admins either don't care, or won't notice because >>> then increase in bandwidth is basically zero for them.

    Spammers will have to pay this servers to post spam which will be almost
    useless regarding to usenet population, and even the configuration will be >> harder to understand for them, I don't think they still have bots designed >> for usenet. So I think there will be very few of them, even legit users
    who have been told for weeks to use something else than Google struggle
    with it, so we can hope that it will be almost zero.

    almost 0 being the key.

    Well any decrease is good.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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