If you want MagSafe capability for older phones (or Android phones) you
can buy a case with the MagSafe magnets embedded in the case.
MagSafe Adapter:
<https://www.aliexpress.us/i
The iPhone Xr was at 0% when I tried this and it exhibited the same
issue that iPhones have with wired charging: until the phone is charged enough to power-up, it will charge very slowly, then at 2% it will turn
on and the charge rate will be negotiated to a higher level; if you turn
off the phone while it is charging, the charging wattage will drop down
(for the iPhone 11 it dropped to about 6 watts, for the Xr it was about
5W prior to the phone turning on).
An issue with wireless charging used to be that it was not practical to
be holding the phone while charging, but with MagSafe that issue goes
away. It's a good idea to minimize the number of insertions/removals of
the Lightning connector in order to prolong the life of the phone, so wireless charging is preferred over wired charging.
I added this to the document "Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging"
you neglect to mention the inefficiencies of wireless charging and that
the additional heat reduces long term battery life, which is especially
a problem with cheap magsafe adapters, such as the crap you claim to
have.
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
On the other point about the resilience of lightning ports, I have owned
four iphones with lightning ports and have never, ever, had a problem
with them despite using the port for charging and peripherals.
you neglect to mention the inefficiencies of wireless charging and that
the additional heat reduces long term battery life, which is especially
a problem with cheap magsafe adapters, such as the crap you claim to
have.
In article <tjtnoi$163l3$1@dont-email.me>, Wilf <wilf@postingx.uk>
wrote:
you neglect to mention the inefficiencies of wireless charging and that
the additional heat reduces long term battery life, which is especially
a problem with cheap magsafe adapters, such as the crap you claim to
have.
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple
magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
wireless charging creates additional heat which reduces battery life.
to mitigate that, magsafe is designed to reduce charge rates if the
phone gets warm. also, some magsafe pucks run cooler than others.
<https://warwick.ac.uk/services/communications/medialibrary/images/june2 019/iphone_charging_mode_2.jpg>
in general, people replace their phones every 3-4 years because they
get a good deal on a replacement or just want something new, not
because the battery failed.
the batteries are rated at 80% in 5 years, which is still good and
longer than the usual replacement cycle.
other factors include how often you charge it, how long it stays at
100%, how many cycles it has, heavy or light use and if optimize
charging is enabled (which holds it at 80% until a full charge is
needed). manufacturing variability also affects it. some people will
get a dud battery and other people will get one that lasts seemingly
forever.
tl;dr the answer is not a simple yes/no.
On the other point about the resilience of lightning ports, I have owned
four iphones with lightning ports and have never, ever, had a problem
with them despite using the port for charging and peripherals.
very few people have.
any claim that lightning is fragile is unmitigated bullshit.
lightning ports are rated for 10,000 insertions, which at a rate of
once per day, is more than 27 *years*.
nothing in this world is perfect and there are the occasional failure, usually due to abuse, or more commonly, a little dirt which can easily
be cleaned out.
On 02/11/2022 at 11:06, nospam wrote:
you neglect to mention the inefficiencies of wireless charging and that
the additional heat reduces long term battery life, which is especially
a problem with cheap magsafe adapters, such as the crap you claim to
have.
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
in general, people replace their phones every 3-4 years because they
get a good deal on a replacement or just want something new, not
because the battery failed.
It's not bad, it's just not *as* good as wired charging, in that it
generates more heat, uses more energy for the same amount of charge, and
so on.
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
On the other point about the resilience of lightning ports, I have owned
four iphones with lightning ports and have never, ever, had a problem
with them despite using the port for charging and peripherals.
On the other point about the resilience of lightning ports, I have owned four iphones with lightning ports and have never, ever, had a problem
with them despite using the port for charging and peripherals.
Wireless charging charges at a much lower rate.
For example, for the
iPhone 14 Pro the wired charging wattage is up to 27 watts,
while the
wireless MagSafe charging is 15 watts.
My iPhone 11
The document Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging
As to the Lightning Port reliability, you're pretty lucky.
There are
lots of complaints in various forums, including this one, about failed Lightning ports. It probably depends a lot on how gentle you are with
your electronics devices.
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
The document Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging
which is flawed.
As to the Lightning Port reliability, you're pretty lucky.
no he isn't. lightning is extremely reliable.
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a recent iPhone of any type?
That's why you've been making wrong claims about them.
The document Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging
which is flawed.
For you to always say it's flawed without ever listing the flaws means it's not flawed but that you wish it was.
As to the Lightning Port reliability, you're pretty lucky.
no he isn't. lightning is extremely reliable.
It's just a connection. It won't withstand appreciable force.
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a recent
iPhone of any type?
he did not.
That's why you've been making wrong claims about them.
The document Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging
which is flawed.
For you to always say it's flawed without ever listing the flaws means it's >> not flawed but that you wish it was.
i've listed the numerous flaws on many occasions with detailed reasons
why it's wrong (with links he falsely claims nobody but him provides).
he's not interested in fixing anything, other than trivially minor
stuff.
he still thinks face id won't work in the dark.
As to the Lightning Port reliability, you're pretty lucky.
no he isn't. lightning is extremely reliable.
It's just a connection. It won't withstand appreciable force.
nothing does, however, if it does break, repair costs will be *much*
less than any variety of usb.
On Wed, 02 Nov 2022 20:23:37 -0400, nospam wrote:
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a recent
iPhone of any type?
he did not.
I saw it and he did point it out as did you yourself say you don't own a recent iPhone. For you to lie so openly is indicative of your personality.
On 11/2/2022 5:28 AM, Wilf wrote:
<snip>
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple
magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
On the other point about the resilience of lightning ports, I have owned
four iphones with lightning ports and have never, ever, had a problem
with them despite using the port for charging and peripherals.
Wireless charging charges at a much lower rate. For example, for the
iPhone 14 Pro the wired charging wattage is up to 27 watts, while the wireless MagSafe charging is 15 watts.
In both cases, the phone's PMICs manage the charge rate in order to
reduce charge current as the battery nears full charge.
Some newer, very high wattage (30-50W) wireless chargers for Android
devices generate a lot of heat, but lower wattage wireless chargers
(5-18W) are fine. My iPhone 11 heats up more with 18W wired charging
than it does with 10W wireless charging.
The document Pros and Cons of Wireless Phone Charging <https://tinyurl.com/pros-cons-wireless-charging> goes into all of this
in detail, with cites and references of course, but the bottom like is
that the extra electricity due to inductive losses is minimal in the
scheme of things, in a whole year it would use less than 2KWH extra,
about 20-50 cents worth of electricity.
As to the Lightning Port reliability, you're pretty lucky. There are
lots of complaints in various forums, including this one, about failed Lightning ports. It probably depends a lot on how gentle you are with
your electronics devices.
On 2022-11-02, Wilf <wilf@postingx.uk> wrote:
On 02/11/2022 at 11:06, nospam wrote:
you neglect to mention the inefficiencies of wireless charging and that
the additional heat reduces long term battery life, which is especially
a problem with cheap magsafe adapters, such as the crap you claim to
have.
I'm interested in this point because I've recently purchased my first
magsafe iPhone. I use magsafe to charge it each night, through an Apple
magsafe case - is this not a good idea for good battery life?
It's not bad, it's just not *as* good as wired charging, in that it
generates more heat, uses more energy for the same amount of charge, and
so on.
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a recent >>>> iPhone of any type?
he did not.
I saw it and he did point it out as did you yourself say you don't own a
recent iPhone. For you to lie so openly is indicative of your personality. >>
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He's a busy man.
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a recent >>> iPhone of any type?
he did not.
I saw it and he did point it out as did you yourself say you don't own a recent iPhone. For you to lie so openly is indicative of your personality.
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He¹s a busy man.
On 02/11/2022 at 16:56, Jolly Roger wrote:
It's not bad, it's just not *as* good as wired charging, in that it
generates more heat, uses more energy for the same amount of charge, and
so on.
Thanks. Good to know.
On 2022-11-03, Wilf <wilf@postingx.uk> wrote:
On 02/11/2022 at 16:56, Jolly Roger wrote:
It's not bad, it's just not *as* good as wired charging, in that it
generates more heat, uses more energy for the same amount of charge, and >>> so on.
Thanks. Good to know.
Pull the connector, never the cord. I've never had a lightning cable or connector fail on me. I have too little experience with USB-C to make a comparison yet. All my devices have a lightning connector. I've
transitioned my chargers to USB-C.
My Apple Watch requires magnetic, but I'm not all that excited about it.
On Wed, 02 Nov 2022 20:23:37 -0400, nospam wrote:
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a
recent iPhone of any type?
he did not.
I saw it and he did point it out as did you yourself say you don't own
a recent iPhone. For you to lie so openly is indicative of your
personality.
On 2022-11-03, Wilf <wilf@postingx.uk> wrote:
On 02/11/2022 at 16:56, Jolly Roger wrote:
It's not bad, it's just not *as* good as wired charging, in that it
generates more heat, uses more energy for the same amount of charge, and >>> so on.
Thanks. Good to know.
Pull the connector, never the cord. I've never had a lightning cable or connector fail on me.
dan <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2022 20:23:37 -0400, nospam wrote:
it helps to actually have the devices before commenting on them.
Didn't Hank Rogers correctly point out that you don't even own a
recent iPhone of any type?
he did not.
I saw it and he did point it out as did you yourself say you don't
own a recent iPhone. For you to lie so openly is indicative of your
personality.
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He’s a busy man.
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He¹s a busy man.
you misremember, or you're lying.
It is Your Name who has no recent iPhone yet regularly
doles our misguided and incorrect advise about them. And "you also"
isn't the logical retort you seem to think it is either way.
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He¢s a busy man.
Then it should be really easy for the two of you to post a link this
supposed conversation here for all to see. Of course we all know you
will never do that because it's a flat-out lie. Lying is all you trolls
do here, and it's really pathetic.
nospam wrote:
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He¹s a busy man.
you misremember, or you're lying.
*This is yet another indicator that nospam is a despicable human
being*
It is Your Name who has no recent iPhone yet regularly
doles our misguided and incorrect advise about them. And "you also"
isn't the logical retort you seem to think it is either way.
Jolly Roger wrote:
It is Your Name who has no recent iPhone yet regularly doles our
misguided and incorrect advise about them. And "you also" isn't the
logical retort you seem to think it is either way.
An open message
Jolly Roger wrote:
I remember that but I guess he forgot it. He¢s a busy man.
Then it should be really easy for the two of you to post a link this
supposed conversation here for all to see. Of course we all know you
will never do that because it's a flat-out lie. Lying is all you
trolls do here, and it's really pathetic.
*This is another indicator that Jolly Roger is a despicable human
being*
It is Your Name who has no recent iPhone yet regularly
doles our misguided and incorrect advise about them. And "you also"
isn't the logical retort you seem to think it is either way.
'your name' doesn't have any iphone of any vintage (and considers them
to be a 'gimmick'). i don't think he has any cellphone at all.
he recently upgraded (as in a couple of years ago) from a 25 year old
beige powermac g3 (released in 1997) running mac os x 10.2 because it
stopped working.
As expected, the lame trolls can't back up their own words
You can't back up your own words and show us the thread where he says
what you claim.
Why?
(We all know why. : )
Jolly Roger wrote:
As expected, the lame trolls can't back up their own words
To nospam and to Jolly Roger...
As expected, the lame trolls can't back up their own words
To nospam and to Jolly Roger...
Still can't back up your own words.
Jolly Roger wrote:
As expected, the lame trolls can't back up their own words
To nospam and to Jolly Roger...
Still can't back up your own words.
Nobody would challenge me who is intelligent
Jolly Roger wrote:
You can't back up your own words and show us the thread where he says
what you claim.
Why?
(We all know why. : )
You are the only one on this ng dumb enough not to realize how
credible I am.
Nobody would challenge me who is intelligent
As predicted.
Jolly Roger wrote:
Nobody would challenge me who is intelligent
As predicted.
Remember when Snit challenged me
You are the only one on this ng dumb enough not to realize how
credible I am.
*ROFLMAO* I rest my case.
You *still* can't provide a source to back up your own words.
Squirm, little worm. : )
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