• *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Tue Sep 12 18:56:57 2023
    It's an _adult_ question to ask of this child-like Apple newsgroup...

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*



    Background below...
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

    Only if the owner of the phone had been informed beforehand. Perhaps
    providing a switch to let the owner decide if they want that option
    would have been prudent. In this case they were found to be guilty of
    hiding what they were doing, which made owners upgrade to newer phones
    rather than just get new batteries.


    Ironically, they *already have a low power mode switch*. The option was *right there* and they just...didn't??

    You have to keep in mind that I reported this first to this newsgroup.
    Because I keep abreast of what is in the news about Apple products.

    You have to then keep in mind that for years, the iKooks denied the truth.
    They claimed all sorts of lies Apple promulgated - which failed in court.

    Apple paid over a billion dollars in the main lawsuit, and another hundred million or so in the criminal French prosecution & Attorneys General suits.

    *Clearly Apple is a despicable company*
    *Devoid of moral fortitude*

    Any decent company would have stood by their customers when they figured
    out that the power design of only some iPhones was incompetently designed.

    Any decent company would have recalled the affected phones (which, let's be very clear, was only a subset of phones - even as all the Apple iPhones and iPads used the exact same battery technology - a point lost on iKooks).

    *Had Apple been a decent company - they would have recalled the phones*
    *And they would have replaced the battery on those affected phones*
    *Probably for two life cycles - (approx. four years)*

    Instead... *Apple tried to _hide_ their incompetent-design* mistake.

    As an adult, I wonder how much it would have cost Apple to simply do the
    decent moral thing instead of trying to screw the customer by
    a. Secretly installing software that throttled the affected phones
    b. Without telling anyone - not even Genius Bar employees
    c. Such that millions of people went out and bought new phones

    And worse... to further cover up
    A. Apple secretly added a cryptic single line to the release notes
    B. Which merely alluded to the fact they "changed power delivery"
    C. And then Apple secretly _backdated_ those release notes

    These _criminal_ actions by Apple were duly noticed and Apple lost every
    civil and criminal case against them (AFAIK) because the proof is there.

    And yet... the ignorant low-IQ uneducated religious zealot iKooks are completely oblivious of every single well-known fact I just stated.

    Why?

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Sep 12 18:34:25 2023
    Wally J wrote:
    It's an _adult_ question to ask of this child-like Apple newsgroup...

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*



    Background below...
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

    Only if the owner of the phone had been informed beforehand. Perhaps
    providing a switch to let the owner decide if they want that option
    would have been prudent. In this case they were found to be guilty of
    hiding what they were doing, which made owners upgrade to newer phones
    rather than just get new batteries.


    Ironically, they *already have a low power mode switch*. The option was
    *right there* and they just...didn't??

    You have to keep in mind that I reported this first to this newsgroup. Because I keep abreast of what is in the news about Apple products.

    You have to then keep in mind that for years, the iKooks denied the truth. They claimed all sorts of lies Apple promulgated - which failed in court.

    Apple paid over a billion dollars in the main lawsuit, and another hundred million or so in the criminal French prosecution & Attorneys General suits.

    *Clearly Apple is a despicable company*
    *Devoid of moral fortitude*

    Any decent company would have stood by their customers when they figured
    out that the power design of only some iPhones was incompetently designed.

    Any decent company would have recalled the affected phones (which, let's be very clear, was only a subset of phones - even as all the Apple iPhones and iPads used the exact same battery technology - a point lost on iKooks).

    *Had Apple been a decent company - they would have recalled the phones*
    *And they would have replaced the battery on those affected phones*
    *Probably for two life cycles - (approx. four years)*

    Instead... *Apple tried to _hide_ their incompetent-design* mistake.

    As an adult, I wonder how much it would have cost Apple to simply do the decent moral thing instead of trying to screw the customer by
    a. Secretly installing software that throttled the affected phones
    b. Without telling anyone - not even Genius Bar employees
    c. Such that millions of people went out and bought new phones

    And worse... to further cover up
    A. Apple secretly added a cryptic single line to the release notes
    B. Which merely alluded to the fact they "changed power delivery"
    C. And then Apple secretly _backdated_ those release notes

    These _criminal_ actions by Apple were duly noticed and Apple lost every civil and criminal case against them (AFAIK) because the proof is there.

    And yet... the ignorant low-IQ uneducated religious zealot iKooks are completely oblivious of every single well-known fact I just stated.

    Why?

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*


    If you get caught again hanging out with children, you'll go to
    jail.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Sep 12 17:11:32 2023
    On 2023-09-12 15:56, Wally J wrote:
    It's an _adult_ question to ask of this child-like Apple newsgroup...

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*



    Background below...
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

    Only if the owner of the phone had been informed beforehand. Perhaps
    providing a switch to let the owner decide if they want that option
    would have been prudent. In this case they were found to be guilty of
    hiding what they were doing, which made owners upgrade to newer phones
    rather than just get new batteries.


    Ironically, they *already have a low power mode switch*. The option was
    *right there* and they just...didn't??

    You have to keep in mind that I reported this first to this newsgroup. Because I keep abreast of what is in the news about Apple products.

    You have to then keep in mind that for years, the iKooks denied the truth. They claimed all sorts of lies Apple promulgated - which failed in court.

    Apple paid over a billion dollars in the main lawsuit, and another hundred million or so in the criminal French prosecution & Attorneys General suits.

    There was no "criminal French prosecution".

    You know that to be false, so not only are you "just stating facts"...

    ...you're flat-out lying.

    And Apple did NOT pay "over a billion dollars" in the main lawsuit.

    In FACT, the real number is less than half that.

    Why?

    Why are you so willing to lie?

    I have no idea.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Sep 12 17:55:45 2023
    On 2023-09-12 17:38, Wally J wrote:
    Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?* >>>

    If you get caught again hanging out with children, you'll go to
    jail.

    The point is the iKooks are oblivious to the facts.

    It's a fact that the French criminal system prosecuted Apple.

    That's not a fact.

    Apple made a deal with them but the prosecution was clearly criminal.

    That's not a fact.


    The money Apple paid went to the Paris district attorney's office in fact.

    Cite, please!


    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious of that fact.

    It's a fact that Apple accepted a half-billion dollar settlement in one lawsuit alone (where the other half billion was included in the tremendous legal costs plus the various and sundry 'smaller' lawsuits such as those in the many tens of millions settled with the Attorneys General and there's
    even a Canadian lawsuit which I'm unaware myself of what the status is).

    Cite, please!



    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious of those facts.

    It's a fact that only some of the (worst designed) iPhones had this problem where only those incompetently designed iPhones were secretly throttled.

    Yet iKooks blame batteries - which shows how incredibly stupid they are.

    No one is "blaming" batteries.

    Batteries run down.

    THAT is a fact.

    It's a fact that Apple never told anyone, and, in fact, they didn't even
    tell their own support personnel, such that countless people were told that it's normal for an iPhone to slow down after an update so they needed a new iPhone.


    Cite, please!

    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious that Apple never told anyone.

    It's a fact that Apple, when they realized certain iPhones had this
    atrocious design flaw, did NOT do the decent thing and recall the phones.

    There was no design flaw.

    Devices running on batteries run out of power at some point.

    That is a fact.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Tue Sep 12 20:38:49 2023
    Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote

    *Why are the iKooks so completely oblivious of all facts about Apple?*


    If you get caught again hanging out with children, you'll go to
    jail.

    The point is the iKooks are oblivious to the facts.

    It's a fact that the French criminal system prosecuted Apple.
    Apple made a deal with them but the prosecution was clearly criminal.

    The money Apple paid went to the Paris district attorney's office in fact.

    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious of that fact.

    It's a fact that Apple accepted a half-billion dollar settlement in one
    lawsuit alone (where the other half billion was included in the tremendous legal costs plus the various and sundry 'smaller' lawsuits such as those in
    the many tens of millions settled with the Attorneys General and there's
    even a Canadian lawsuit which I'm unaware myself of what the status is).


    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious of those facts.

    It's a fact that only some of the (worst designed) iPhones had this problem where only those incompetently designed iPhones were secretly throttled.

    Yet iKooks blame batteries - which shows how incredibly stupid they are.

    It's a fact that Apple never told anyone, and, in fact, they didn't even
    tell their own support personnel, such that countless people were told that it's normal for an iPhone to slow down after an update so they needed a new iPhone.

    Yet the iKooks are completely oblivious that Apple never told anyone.

    It's a fact that Apple, when they realized certain iPhones had this
    atrocious design flaw, did NOT do the decent thing and recall the phones.

    Why don't the iKooks realize recalling the phones would have been the
    decent thing for Apple to do?

    What's wrong with iKooks that they are completely ignorant of the truth?

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