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    From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 23 04:42:17 2023
    Apple also had 75% of the premium phone market.

    <https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-14-pro-helps-apple-dominate-2022-smartphone-scene>

    Apple grew from 71% to 75% of the premium market. To me, that sounds like people continue to realize that Expensive Android is no better than Cheap Android. Even in a “global recession”, people are learning that there is something better than Android.

    That sound you hear is the Android Troll Kiddies, screaming at the sky.

    Rant On, Androidiots.

    Hey Arlen. How are those “cross platform, ultrasonic file transfers” working out for you?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Thu Mar 23 16:58:00 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

    Apple also had 75% of the premium phone market.

    <https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-14-pro-helps-apple-dominate-2022-smartphone-scene>

    Apple grew from 71% to 75% of the premium market. To me, that sounds
    like people continue to realize that Expensive Android is no better
    than Cheap Android. Even in a “global recession”, people are
    learning that there is something better than Android.

    That sound you hear is the Android Troll Kiddies, screaming at the
    sky.

    Rant On, Androidiots.

    Hey Arlen. How are those “cross platform, ultrasonic file transfers” working out for you?

    LOL... That one always makes me giggle... : D

    Wait until the resident trolls read about the EIGHTEEN new zero-day vulnerabilities that were just discovered in the Samsung Exynos chips
    used in a slew of Android devices and even cars! : )

    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>
    ---
    The Exynos modem security flaws were reported between late 2022 and
    early 2023. Four of the eighteen zero-days were identified as the most
    serious, enabling remote code execution from the Internet to the
    baseband.

    These Internet-to-baseband remote code execution (RCE) bugs (including CVE-2023-24033 and three others still waiting for a CVE-ID) allow
    attackers to compromise vulnerable devices remotely and without any user interaction.

    "The baseband software does not properly check the format types of
    accept-type attribute specified by the SDP, which can lead to a denial
    of service or code execution in Samsung Baseband Modem," Samsung says in
    a security advisory describing the CVE-2023-24033 vulnerability.

    The only information required for the attacks to be pulled off is the
    victim's phone number, according to Tim Willis, the Head of Project
    Zero.

    To make things even worse, with minimal additional research, experienced attackers could easily create an exploit capable of remotely
    com
  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 23 18:02:00 2023
    Am 23.03.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

    Apple also had 75% of the premium phone market.

    <https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-14-pro-helps-apple-dominate-2022-smartphone-scene>

    Apple grew from 71% to 75% of the premium market. To me, that sounds
    like people continue to realize that Expensive Android is no better
    than Cheap Android. Even in a “global recession”, people are
    learning that there is something better than Android.

    That sound you hear is the Android Troll Kiddies, screaming at the
    sky.

    Rant On, Androidiots.

    Hey Arlen. How are those “cross platform, ultrasonic file transfers” >> working out for you?

    LOL... That one always makes me giggle... : D

    Wait until the resident trolls read about the EIGHTEEN new zero-day vulnerabilities that were just discovered in the Samsung Exynos chips
    used in a slew of Android devices and even cars! : )

    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>

    Very old news!
    But no pity for those who buy Samsung devices.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Mar 23 17:14:54 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

    Apple also had 75% of the premium phone market.

    <https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-14-pro-helps-apple-dominate-2022-smartphone-scene>

    Apple grew from 71% to 75% of the premium market. To me, that sounds
    like people continue to realize that Expensive Android is no better
    than Cheap Android. Even in a “global recession”, people are
    learning that there is something better than Android.

    That sound you hear is the Android Troll Kiddies, screaming at the
    sky.

    Rant On, Androidiots.

    Hey Arlen. How are those “cross platform, ultrasonic file transfers” >>> working out for you?

    LOL... That one always makes me giggle... : D

    Wait until the resident trolls read about the EIGHTEEN new zero-day
    vulnerabilities that were just discovered in the Samsung Exynos chips
    used in a slew of Android devices and even cars! : )

    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>

    Very old news!

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all. I've
    been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it here since
    his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread knowledge", but
    strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang about it. Strange,
    that. ; )

    But no pity for those who buy Samsung devices.

    As stated in the article, these zero-day vulnerabilities affect more
    than just Samsung devices, including Pixel devices, Vivo devices, any
    wearables that use the Exynos W920 chipset, and any cars that use the
    Exynos Auto T5123 chipset.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Mar 23 17:27:20 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all. I've
    been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it here since
    his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread knowledge", but
    strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang about it. Strange,
    that. ; )

    Strange indeed, given how Arlen is an “Educated Adult”.

    It is to laugh.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Thu Mar 23 13:30:32 2023
    On 2023-03-23 13:27, Bob Campbell wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all. I've
    been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it here since
    his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread knowledge", but
    strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang about it. Strange,
    that. ; )

    Strange indeed, given how Arlen is an “Educated Adult”.

    Legally, here, turning 18 makes one an adult.

    Yet, there is ample proof that nothing miraculous happens at midnight to
    make it so in a pretty fat segment of the population.

    --
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    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Thu Mar 23 18:30:45 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.
    I've been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it here
    since his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread knowledge",
    but strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang about it.
    Strange, that. ; )

    Strange indeed, given how Arlen is an “Educated Adult”.

    It is to laugh.

    Mmmhmm... And did you notice how the first person to peep up in protest
    of my post about this moaning that it's not on topic was none other
    than badgolferman? Strange, that. : )

    Anyone remember how badgolferman has *never* protested any of Arlen's *numerous* off-topic Android posts here? Pepperidge Farm remembers. : )

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 23 19:36:38 2023
    Am 23.03.23 um 19:30 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.
    I've been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it here
    since his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread knowledge",
    but strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang about it.
    Strange, that. ; )

    Strange indeed, given how Arlen is an “Educated Adult”.

    It is to laugh.

    Mmmhmm... And did you notice how the first person to peep up in protest
    of my post about this moaning that it's not on topic was none other
    than badgolferman? Strange, that. : )

    Anyone remember how badgolferman has *never* protested any of Arlen's *numerous* off-topic Android posts here? Pepperidge Farm remembers. : )

    You are a childish little uneducated Troll anyway.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 23 19:34:45 2023
    Am 23.03.23 um 18:14 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>

    Very old news!

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.

    Extremely old. And totally skewed.
    I referred to the fact days ago. And Samsung is not the only one
    affected by its Exynos-Chips.


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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Mar 23 18:41:53 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 19:30 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.
    I've been patiently waiting for Arlen and company to mention it
    here since his stated purpose here is "to educate and spread
    knowledge", but strangely haven't head a peep from the troll gang
    about it. Strange, that. ; )

    Strange indeed, given how Arlen is an “Educated Adult”.

    It is to laugh.

    Mmmhmm... And did you notice how the first person to peep up in
    protest of my post about this moaning that it's not on topic was
    none other than badgolferman? Strange, that. : )

    Anyone remember how badgolferman has *never* protested any of Arlen's
    *numerous* off-topic Android posts here? Pepperidge Farm remembers. :
    )

    You are a childish little uneducated Troll anyway.

    The troll gang can't take a single bit of their own medicine. : )

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Mar 23 18:40:24 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 18:14 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>

    Very old news!

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.

    Extremely old. And totally skewed.

    Zero-day vulnerabilities can't be "skewed" - they simply exist. : )

    Cry harder. Salty zealot tears are delicious.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Mar 23 19:24:25 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 18:14 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-03-23, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 23.03.23 um 17:58 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vulnerabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/>

    Very old news!

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.

    Extremely old. And totally skewed.

    Speaking of old, how old are do you think these zero-day vulnerabilities
    that Arlen is constantly trolling about here?:

    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/qrNX9ULONws/m/ju90P4vKDgAJ>
    Andy Burnelli - Mar 1, 2023, 12:26:03 PM
    ---
    You forget all that highly touted marketing bullshit, exactly like the
    "Apple Silicon" bullshit for the unpatchably permanently flawed M1,
    nospam.

    My point, nospam, if you are an adult who can comprehend that point, is
    that oodles of money alone does not make a MARKETING company into a
    DESIGN house.

    Just look at the huge failures in almost every SOC design Apple ever did
    (where you can defined "design" any way you want no matter who fabs it).

    Case in point:
    Why is Apple's iOS the _worst_ of all smartphone OS's nospam, in terms
    of zero-day holes that Apple doesn't even bother to look for?

    If money was all that was needed, the iPhone wouldn't be so insecure.
    --
    This has been an attempt of an adult conversation with an iKook who
    believes that only money is needed to have design a 5G modem and nothing
    else.
    ---

    Answer: *Much* older than the ones you're triggered by right now. ; )

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  • From Big Dog@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Mar 23 16:34:28 2023
    On 3/23/2023 2:40 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.

    Extremely old. And totally skewed.

    Zero-day vulnerabilities can't be "skewed" - they simply exist. : )

    Cry harder. Salty zealot tears are delicious.

    It was already discussed on the Android newsgroup on the morning of March
    17th and since then more threads have popped up on the Android newsgroup
    with all the details that they needed. Nothing about iOS in there though.

    I haven't seen mention that they are zero day bugs though I don't really
    know how they define a normal security bug versus a zero day. Do you?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Big Dog on Thu Mar 23 21:28:58 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Big Dog <BD7436@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/23/2023 2:40 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Nope, it's from March 16, 2023 (seven days ago), so not old at all.

    Extremely old. And totally skewed.

    Zero-day vulnerabilities can't be "skewed" - they simply exist. : )

    Cry harder. Salty zealot tears are delicious.

    It was already discussed on the Android newsgroup on the morning of
    March 17th

    Wooo... six whole days ago? Wow, that's *really* old.

    I haven't seen mention that they are zero day bugs

    Well now you have. You're welcome.

    though I don't really know how they define a normal security bug
    versus a zero day. Do you?

    Of course I do. It's not rocket science. Do you think Google's Project
    Zero team knows the difference?

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  • From Big Dog@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Mar 23 17:52:40 2023
    On 3/23/2023 9:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Of course I do. It's not rocket science.

    They didn't once mention the word zero day in their report.
    Unless you find it referenced somewhere as a zero day, you made it up.
    Why? It's bad enough without you trying to make it sound even worse.

    Do you think Google's Project
    Zero team knows the difference?

    If you mean the name of the project, do you think Whole Foods
    only sells the cow whole just because of the company name?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Big Dog on Thu Mar 23 23:02:03 2023
    On 2023-03-23, Big Dog <BD7436@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/23/2023 9:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Of course I do. It's not rocket science.

    They didn't once mention the word zero day in their report. Unless
    you find it referenced somewhere as a zero day, you made it up. Why?
    It's bad enough without you trying to make it sound even worse.

    You can't be serious. Are you really that lazy that you can't look at
    the article I posted? Or are you outright lying?

    The Project Zero team knows exactly what zero-day exploits are, and they
    are the ones who announced it:

    <https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-internet-to-baseband-remote-rce.html>
    ---
    Multiple Internet to Baseband Remote Code Execution Vulnerabilities in
    Exynos Modems

    Posted by Tim Willis, Project Zero

    In late 2022 and early 2023, Project Zero reported *eighteen* *0-day* *vulnerabilities* in Exynos Modems produced by Samsung Semiconductor.
    The four most severe of these eighteen vulnerabilities (CVE-2023-24033, CVE-2023-26496, CVE-2023-26497 and CVE-2023-26498) allowed for Internet-to-baseband remote code execution. Tests conducted by Project
    Zero confirm that those four vulnerabilities allow an attacker to
    remotely compromise a phone at the baseband level with no user
    interaction, and require only that the attacker know the victim's phone
    number. With limited additional research and development, we believe
    that skilled attackers would be able to quickly create an operational
    exploit to compromise affected devices silently and remotely.
    ---

    Do you think Google's Project Zero team knows the difference?

    If you mean the name of the project, do you think Whole
  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Mar 23 23:05:06 2023
    On 3/23/23 7:02 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    It makes me wonder: What are you even doing here in the Apple
    newsgroups (other than trolling)?

    There is nothing to wonder about. Check the headers. "Big Dog" is yet ANOTHER Arlen sock puppet.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Fri Mar 24 03:19:36 2023
    On 2023-03-24, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
    On 3/23/23 7:02 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

    It makes me wonder: What are you even doing here in the Apple
    newsgroups (other than trolling)?

    There is nothing to wonder about. Check the headers. "Big Dog" is
    yet ANOTHER Arlen sock puppet.

    🤣 Because, of course it is. What a loser.

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