• Re: in an object oriented world

    From John Hasler@21:1/5 to Songbird on Fri Jan 26 02:40:01 2024
    Songbird writes:
    every thing running on a computer should be able to say:

    "I am [x version ...], these are my parents [y, z, 1, ...], i was
    compiled by program [...] from source code [...], here are my
    credentials [blah, blah]"

    when sent a signal from GOD.

    Why should she believe it?

    any process which does not respond should be thus cast into the outer darkness of the bits and never to return (aka a virus or unauthorized program).

    Malware can lie. A virus can infect an authorized program and use its credentials.
    --
    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Elmwood, WI USA

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 02:30:01 2024
    every thing running on a computer should be able to say:

    "I am [x version ...], these are my parents [y, z, 1, ...], i was compiled by program [...] from source code [...], here are my credentials [blah, blah]"

    when sent a signal from GOD. since GOD can kill you you
    should have the right response ready when (s)he calls. any
    process which does not respond should be thus cast into the
    outer darkness of the bits and never to return (aka a virus
    or unauthorized program).

    yes, i'm amused by conversations in debian devel at times...


    songbird (recursively or not cursedly yours
    parenthetical or knot

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  • From John Hasler@21:1/5 to Songbird on Fri Jan 26 15:00:01 2024
    Songbird writes:
    because it only comes from GOD. no other process can send this
    signal.

    I meant why should GOD believe the reply?

    objects are only created by authorized calls to other
    objects so there is no pathway to infect if done correctly.

    if you do not allow random objects to be created that
    are not verified and vetted then there are no viruses.

    Then there is no need for your verification process.
    --
    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Elmwood, WI USA

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to John Hasler on Fri Jan 26 14:50:01 2024
    John Hasler wrote:
    songbird writes:
    every thing running on a computer should be able to say:

    "I am [x version ...], these are my parents [y, z, 1, ...], i was
    compiled by program [...] from source code [...], here are my
    credentials [blah, blah]"

    when sent a signal from GOD.

    Why should she believe it?

    because it only comes from GOD. no other process
    can send this signal.


    any process which does not respond should be thus cast into the outer
    darkness of the bits and never to return (aka a virus or unauthorized
    program).

    Malware can lie. A virus can infect an authorized program and use its credentials.

    objects are only created by authorized calls to other
    objects so there is no pathway to infect if done correctly.

    if you do not allow random objects to be created that
    are not verified and vetted then there are no viruses.

    note, i'm just kicking this around and wondering if it
    really would be possible.


    songbird

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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to John Hasler on Fri Jan 26 15:20:01 2024
    On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 07:56:35AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
    Songbird writes:
    because it only comes from GOD. no other process can send this
    signal.

    I meant why should GOD believe the reply?

    GOD doesn't believe. He KNOWS. Even without having to "send a
    signal".

    And now let's discuss whether Objects have any freedom, if GOD
    knows all in advance.

    I dimly remember that wars have been waged over that kind of
    question. But my memory is fuzzy...

    Cheers
    --
    t

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