• Re: systemd-timesyncd

    From John Hasler@21:1/5 to Gene on Sun Jan 7 17:30:02 2024
    Gene writes:
    Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get
    attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus.

    Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That
    phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You acquired
    it by visiting an infected or malicious Web site.

    Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo.
    --
    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Elmwood, WI USA

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Max Nikulin on Sun Jan 7 21:10:01 2024
    On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote:
    On 07/01/2024 02:17, gene heskett wrote:
    If debian is going to supply systemd's timesyncd as a client, I
    expected a bookworm install to just work. It did not and without docs
    I have to pester the list, which has gotten me a bad rep because the
    lack of docs for this stuff has me in a screw google frame of mind by
    the time I get around to asking the list.  Lately, everytime I go
    anywhere near google or a gmail link I get attacked by a virus that
    calls itself norton antivirus. That is an oxymoron, like military
    intelligence.

    I have no idea what malware you have on your machines.

    systemd-timesyncd is a NTP-client, not a server. It is shipped with man
    pages and works out of the box (of course, if network is properly configured).

    Is it supposed to be installed by the net-installer? There does not seem
    to be any man pages other than the bog std stuff. When I found the /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd,
    got this:
    gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd
    No manual entry for timesyncd

    So one of the first things I did, after getting an orca-less install (
    that took about 26 installs before someone said I had to unplug ALL my
    usb stuff which other than keyboard/mouse buttons I did leave plugged in because the only other stuff I had here was ps2 based, finally getting
    an orca-less install, all the other installs were because bookworm with
    orca removed by removing the exec bits of the executables because apt
    wouldn't purge it, will not reboot without them forcing a reinstall any
    time I had to reboot) and getting t-bird setup so I could do email was
    to install ntpsec, which can be a server. and worked as a client OOTB.
    Even if timesyncd might have worked, its not a server as you note.
    But if there are man pages on timesyncd, that is not what they are named.

    Now I decide to use this ntpsec install as a server to the rest of my
    systems here, thereby unloading the debian pool a bit, and the lack of
    docs bytes me again. I'm playing the 10,000 monkeys re-writing
    Shakespear scene here and catching it for not using google, and got the
    help I needed from John's post to look at manpages.org. And that seems
    to have started another endless thread I'll get blamed for. My lack of
    man pages has been asked, and ignored before, so I'll ask again:

    What package contains the manpages for a bookworm amd64 install I expect
    to do anything I might want to do?

    Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Sun Jan 7 22:00:01 2024
    On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 02:51:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
    On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote:
    On 07/01/2024 02:17, gene heskett wrote:

    Is it supposed to be installed by the net-installer? There does not seem to be any man pages other than the bog std stuff. When I found the /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd, got this:
    gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd
    No manual entry for timesyncd


    What package contains the manpages for a bookworm amd64 install I expect to do anything I might want to do?


    apt install manpages (as noted in a message above earlier in the thread).

    Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct?

    All best, as ever,

    Andy

    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis


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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to John Hasler on Sun Jan 7 21:20:01 2024
    On 1/7/24 11:24, John Hasler wrote:
    Gene writes:
    Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get
    attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus.

    Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That
    phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You acquired
    it by visiting an infected or malicious Web site.

    Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo.

    checkrootkit and rkhunter aren't finding anything. FF caches, can they
    be cleaned w/o loosing bookmarks? And I do use ddg when I can.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Mon Jan 8 00:00:01 2024
    On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 +0000
    "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> wrote:

    Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct?

    Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like certain ancient Digital
    Equipment products…?

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  • From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to Max Nikulin on Mon Jan 8 05:10:01 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:02:25 +0700
    Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:

    Isn't it /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, not /etc/systemd/timesyncd? It
    might be a reason why systemd-timesyncd did not follow configuration.

    It is indeed /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf. However, there is also /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf.d/, so one may drop local configurations
    into place without mucking in timesyncd.conf.

    Since systemd-timesyncd provides /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, changes
    to it will likely be overwritten on the next upgrade to
    systemd-timesyncd.

    I have:

    root@jhegaala:~# ls /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf.d/
    50localTimeServers.conf
    root@jhegaala:~# cat /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf.d/50localTimeServers.conf [Time]
    NTP=192.168.100.12 192.168.100.6
    # File of local time servers provided via DHCP and 60ntp.
    root@jhegaala:~#

    60ntp is my own script which picks up time servers from DHCP
    information and which is run by Network Manager. This machine is a
    laptop.

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  • From Charles Kroeger@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 8 06:50:01 2024
    Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo.

    Use StartPage instead, aka ixquick.com

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Nicholas Geovanis on Mon Jan 8 16:00:01 2024
    On 1/7/24 19:39, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
    On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley
    <charlescurley@charlescurley.com
    <mailto:charlescurley@charlescurley.com>> wrote:

    On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 +0000
    "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com
    <mailto:amacater@einval.com>> wrote:

    > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.
    > >                             ^^^^^^^^^^^
    >
    > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct?

    Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like certain ancient Digital
    Equipment products…?


    Come on.... There has to be a linux-based VAX simulator somewhere out
    there for Gene :-D
    So he can practice getting VAXed... :-D
    ....said the man who used to use LSI-11's :-D
    Glutton for punishment I take it?

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    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Charles Curley on Mon Jan 8 16:00:01 2024
    On 1/7/24 17:51, Charles Curley wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 +0000
    "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> wrote:

    Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct?

    Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like certain ancient Digital
    Equipment products…?

    Chuckle. That however, does bring back the memories of the PDP-11/23a
    that was supplied by Sci-Atl and CBS to control a 7 meter C-band
    satellite dish, to say it was unstable was the understatement of the
    century. But it came with a maintenance contract so I let the field
    engineers from DE, worry about it, but everytime it crashed, we lost
    several thou, because we were selling toothpaste instead of dog food,
    and CBS didn't pay us for those mistakes. I grew increasing frustrated
    with DE because in the end, they changed every component in that machine
    but the frame rail with the seriel number. The computer guy in NYC CBS
    HQ finally traded me his test mule figuring he could fix it so we
    updated DE's seriel number list and traded machines. But, he couldn't
    fix it either, so he then had no test mule to check other stations
    boards and software updates. Then it snowballed from there with CBS
    finally forced to replace every pdp11-23a at their affiliate sites, with
    an I've Been Moved, industrial version pc, and an artic real time
    interface card as a control interface. His pdp11-23a Just Worked, as
    did the IBM. That of course had a very visible positive effect on our
    P&L reports. So yeah, you could say I did not have any great faith in
    DEC. Early on but after the warranty on it expired, it used a DEC VT220
    for local admin stuff. Nothing fancy but when I called DEC looking for a
    HOT for it, was not available but they did have a vt550 they wanted
    nearly 6 grand for, and would not guarantee it would work. CBS could
    call it up on the phone so they did for about 10 days while I reworked a
    vt100 clone that ran on os9, the nix clone for a trs-80 color computer
    3, making a 100% compatible vt220 out of it. That worked until the IBM
    came in. So here is a guy named Gene, that has never owned a "PC" cuz I
    was doing things a pc couldn't, on a color computer, switching to the
    Amiga in the 90's, and built my first linux machine, installing RH5.0 on
    it in 1998. Built lots of other machines starting with an RCA 1802, but
    never a VAX.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From Curt@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Mon Jan 8 18:00:01 2024
    On 2024-01-07, Andrew M.A. Cater <amacater@einval.com> wrote:

    Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct?

    Nothing sucks like a VAX!

    All best, as ever,

    Andy

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