On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:12:28PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote:

I have used Evince as my PDF viewer and printer program for many
years. It still works, but it has been spitting out error messages for
a very long time. to wit:

(evince:81435): EvinceView-CRITICAL **: 16:44:57.520: \
ev_pixbuf_cache_set_selection_list: \
assertion 'EV_IS_PIXBUF_CACHE (pixbuf_cache)' failed

The help option doesn't shed any light to me, but it does reference
the website. However, every time I've tried the site throws an error.
That also has been happening for a LONG time.

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

A bonus would be one with documented CLI use with CUPS printers.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Best regards,

-Tom

I use xpdf, which is extremely simple and will allow printing. Don't think
it has a CLI interface. However, I would imagine that simply feeding a PDF
to the printer should work for printing. I could be wrong, though.

Paul

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On Mon 04/12/2023 at 23:12, Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:

I have used Evince as my PDF viewer and printer program for many
years. It still works, but it has been spitting out error messages for
a very long time. to wit:

(evince:81435): EvinceView-CRITICAL **: 16:44:57.520: \
ev_pixbuf_cache_set_selection_list: \
assertion 'EV_IS_PIXBUF_CACHE (pixbuf_cache)' failed

The help option doesn't shed any light to me, but it does reference
the website. However, every time I've tried the site throws an error.
That also has been happening for a LONG time.

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

Hi Tom,

I find Atril and Okular to be capable viewers, both with CLI options detailed in

$ man {atril|okular}

I sometimes find Atril less than snappy in displaying (and repainting) graphic-intensive PDFs.

A bonus would be one with documented CLI use with CUPS printers.

What do you want to do that can't be done with (for example)

$ lp file.pdf

?

I'm not sure what you mean by "CLI use with CUPS printers".

$ man evince

includes

"Print preview options [...]
--print-settings %s %f
This sends the full path of the PDF file, f, and the settings of
the print dialog, s, to evince."

If that was what you meant, I note there seems to be no equivalent documented for atril or okular, but I don't quite understand how "%s" is to be identified/specified etc. Some other application's print dialog?

Perhaps you or other(s) can enlighten me.

Thanks,
Gareth

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On 12/4/23 19:20, Paul M Foster wrote:

On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:12:28PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote:

I have used Evince as my PDF viewer and printer program for many
years. It still works, but it has been spitting out error messages for
a very long time. to wit:

(evince:81435): EvinceView-CRITICAL **: 16:44:57.520: \
ev_pixbuf_cache_set_selection_list: \
assertion 'EV_IS_PIXBUF_CACHE (pixbuf_cache)' failed

The help option doesn't shed any light to me, but it does reference
the website. However, every time I've tried the site throws an error.
That also has been happening for a LONG time.

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good
documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

A bonus would be one with documented CLI use with CUPS printers.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Best regards,

-Tom

I use xpdf, which is extremely simple and will allow printing. Don't think
it has a CLI interface. However, I would imagine that simply feeding a PDF
to the printer should work for printing. I could be wrong, though.

Paul

And I've used okular, which is much like evince.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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Am 04.12.2023 um 17:12:28 Uhr schrieb Tom Browder:

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

Try xpdf, but be aware it doesn't support forms nor other special stuff
in PDF like video.

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On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 17:12:28 -0600
Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:

I have used Evince as my PDF viewer and printer program for many
years. It still works, but it has been spitting out error messages
for
a very long time. to wit:

(evince:81435): EvinceView-CRITICAL **: 16:44:57.520: \
ev_pixbuf_cache_set_selection_list: \
assertion 'EV_IS_PIXBUF_CACHE (pixbuf_cache)' failed

The help option doesn't shed any light to me, but it does reference
the website. However, every time I've tried the site throws an
error.
That also has been happening for a LONG time.

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

A bonus would be one with documented CLI use with CUPS printers.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Best regards,

-Tom

Okular, Xpdf?

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Tom Browder wrote:

I would like to use another program which is similar but has good documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
Just something for viewing and printing.

Don't know, if it fits your requirements, but I'm using frequently: chromium

Though chromium is a web browser, it can display PDFs quiet properly and can fillout formulars, print PDFs, etc.

For my daily reading I want a lightweight viewer, so I use evince, but for filling out formulars I use chromium.

Best regards,
Klaus.
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I use zathura which is also quite light but I'm not sure if you can
print from it. I tend to print directly using lp although very
infrequently in any case.
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 12:09:09AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 05/12/2023 18:30, Tom Browder wrote:

When I manually print via Evince It seems to sometimes change important settings like page scaling and orientation.

I had an impression that GUI print dialog may remember some settings from
its previous invocation. Unsure if it is relevant to evince.

I believed that CUPS stack is based on PDF while earlier PostScript was
used. Filters used to get output specific to particular printers use poppler library. (I do not see direct dependency on poppler in evince despite I expected it). Poppler was forked from xpdf. Current upstream xpdf-4 version is a qt application while v3 in Debian has Xt GUI and some issues with non-latin scripts. Xpdf-3 is fast for text documents, but may be slow in the case of large JPEG images.

I've used Xpdf from Arch, and it's an entirely different program. My understanding was that the Arch version depended on poppler. I can only
imagine that the version in Debian is different because there is a
licensing issue with the poppler code. Just a guess.

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On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:01:37PM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:

[...]

I've used Xpdf from Arch, and it's an entirely different program. My understanding was that the Arch version depended on poppler. I can only imagine that the version in Debian is different because there is a
licensing issue with the poppler code. Just a guess.

Debian Bullseye here. Xpdf links against libpoppler102, which has
GPLv2 or V3, same as xpdf.

Cheers
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 06:14:00 +0100

<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:01:37PM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:

[...]

I've used Xpdf from Arch, and it's an entirely different program. My
understanding was that the Arch version depended on poppler. I can
only
imagine that the version in Debian is different because there is a
licensing issue with the poppler code. Just a guess.

Debian Bullseye here. Xpdf links against libpoppler102, which has
GPLv2 or V3, same as xpdf.

Cheers

Echt simpel die bei Raspian. Und winzig.- Und sogar bunt!

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On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:30:01 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:

I use zathura which is also quite light but I'm not sure if you can
print from it. I tend to print directly using lp although very
infrequently in any case.

In zathura :print brings up the Gtk+ print dialog.

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Try xpdf, but be aware it doesn't support forms nor other special stuff
in PDF like video.

qpdfview is awfully simple.

#apt install qpdfview (does well with trixie and sid)

It prints well with CUPS that provides a driver for my Kyocera FS-920 b&w
laser printer. That printer is 15 years old. For the first 10 years there
was no driver for it. (generic laser printer) The older your printer is the better it will work with CUPS.

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