Hi to Everyone,

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely
do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

My /var/log/messages are available at

http://bdebreil.free.fr/messages

starting line 7712 :

April 14 – 0858 – Failed to call gs_plugin_update on system-updates : waiting time max is over

Debian Stretch gnome session binary (1256) …. failed
(msg repeated 5 times)
GLIB-Gobject-critical : gobject_unref_assertion 'G S OBJECT failed

…………………………………………….

Debian-Stretch gnome shell[1345] ; /build/ … has no handler with id '235895' ………………………………
line 7725
PolicyKit daemon disconnected from the bus
We are no longer a registered authentication agent……… ……………………………………..

I've attempted to shutdown and restart several times, I tested the
starting with 'Advanced Options' and then called 'startx', to no better
result.

How can I get back to my old system prior to this failed update ? What
else can I do ?

Thanks in advance for your help in restoring my system

Bernard

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Bernard wrote:
...

How can I get back to my old system prior to this failed update ? What
else can I do ?

Thanks in advance for your help in restoring my system

take a look at the files in /var/log/apt

history should tell you what was updated last and you could
try to install a previous version of what changed to see
which caused the problem.

depending upon how you run your updates you may not have any
previous versions of debs available in /var/cache/apt/archives to try
but you can get them via snapshot.debian.org.


songbird

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On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone,

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from?

--
Brian.

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On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:41:37 (+0100), Brian wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…),
upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from?

It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT:

[DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43

[ ] Packages.gz 2020-07-18 10:40 9.2M

[ ] base-files_9.9+deb9u13_amd64.deb 2020-07-12 20:56 66K

My own course of action would probably be to carefully read the buster
Release Notes and upgrade "by the book". Then repeat with bullseye.
All without starting X, which I would leave until bullseye is running.

Cheers,
David.

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone,

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is
with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I
rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update
come from?

I speculate that the OP's sources.list identifies the desired
distribution by a temporally relative suite name --say, "stable" or "oldstable"-- instead of the temporally absolute release codename
"stretch".

--
Hackers are free people. They are like artists. If they are in a good
mood, they get up in the morning and begin painting their pictures.
-- Vladimir Putin

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 davidson wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone,

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is
with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I
rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update
come from?

I speculate that the OP's sources.list identifies the desired
distribution by a temporally relative suite name --say, "stable" or "oldstable"

A one-word oxymoron: "stable"

These context-dependent suite "names" ought to be called pronouns or
something.

The so-called "codenames" are the actual names proper.

-- instead of the temporally absolute release codename "stretch".

--
Sometimes it pays to have squirrels in your head running around making
you question everything. -- Clive Robinson

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On 2023-04-14 at 15:53, davidson wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 Brian wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone,

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is
with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately
Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon
restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update
come from?

I speculate that the OP's sources.list identifies the desired
distribution by a temporally relative suite name --say, "stable" or "oldstable"-- instead of the temporally absolute release codename
"stretch".

Alternately, perhaps the OP "okay[s] a proposal for an update" *so*
rarely that there was actually still one pending from when stretch was
still getting support.

--
The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw


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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come
from?

Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support.

https://www.debian.org/releases/

I would encourage the original poster to consider installing bullseye
rather than pursue repairing his current installation.

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On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 14:38:21 -0500, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:41:37 (+0100), Brian wrote:

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:48:06 +0200, Bernard wrote:

I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch.
Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…),
upon restarting the system fails to launch X server.

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from?

It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT:

[DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43

[ ] Packages.gz 2020-07-18 10:40 9.2M

[ ] base-files_9.9+deb9u13_amd64.deb 2020-07-12 20:56 66K

It was just a thought. The OP will provide apt logs to pinpoint the packages installed.

--
Brian.

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote:

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? >>

It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT:

[DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43

[ ] Packages.gz 2020-07-18 10:40 9.2M

[ ] base-files_9.9+deb9u13_amd64.deb 2020-07-12 20:56 66K

It was just a thought. The OP will provide apt logs to pinpoint the packages installed.

It's been moved to archive.debian.org. Just hasn't been deleted from the
main repo yet but I think that's imminent.

Jessie went a month or so ago.

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come
from?

Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support.

https://www.debian.org/releases/

That page is out of date. On the LTS page itself:

Debian 9 "Stretch"

i386, amd64, armel, armhf and arm64

July 6, 2020 to June 30, 2022

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 at 04:24, Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote:

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from?

It's been moved to archive.debian.org. Just hasn't been deleted from the
main repo yet but I think that's imminent.

The timeline was announced here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/03/msg00006.html

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Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> writes:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come
from?

Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support.

https://www.debian.org/releases/

Actually LTS support for Stretch ended in mid-2022. ELTS is available
but it's paid support and probably the OP doesn't pay for that since he
doesn't want support. According to Debian's wiki at least and in this
case it seems to be the one that's up to date and the releases page is
not.

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 05:34:36 +0100 (BST)
Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote:

[...]
[...]
[...]
That page is out of date. On the LTS page itself:

Debian 9 "Stretch"

i386, amd64, armel, armhf and arm64

July 6, 2020 to June 30, 2022

Thanks, to you and to Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>. I filed a bug, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1034444. A fix has
been applied, and should be available soon.

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