• Looking for a new maintainer for the "rush" package

    From deb251@lewenberg.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 15 14:30:01 2022
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x version in
    Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released Jan 2022). I
    filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes packaged, but no
    response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?

    Adam Lewenberg

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  • From vimer@21:1/5 to deb251@lewenberg.com on Wed Mar 16 12:00:01 2022
    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package,
    we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.

    BR,
    vimer

    Adam Lewenberg

    [0]: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu

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  • From Nicholas D Steeves@21:1/5 to vimer on Thu Mar 17 20:30:01 2022
    From a thread on debian-mentors,

    vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes:

    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package,
    we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.


    Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of
    this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush"
    would be more appropriate:

    https://wiki.debian.org/PackageSalvaging
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging

    #929160 justifies a minimal NMU fixing only that bug.

    I've CCed Mats, because the best solution is for the maintainer to take
    care of this :-)

    Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers
    Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the
    maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the
    ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation.


    Regards,
    Nicholas

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  • From Mats Erik Andersson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 21:30:01 2022
    Torsdag den 17 mars 2022, klockan 15:22, skrev Nicholas D Steeves detta:

    From a thread on debian-mentors,

    vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes:

    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes >>packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package, we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.


    Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of
    this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush"
    would be more appropriate:

    https://wiki.debian.org/PackageSalvaging
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging

    #929160 justifies a minimal NMU fixing only that bug.

    I've CCed Mats, because the best solution is for the maintainer to take
    care of this :-)

    Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers
    Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the
    maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the
    ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation.


    Regards,
    Nicholas

    The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity
    to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding
    three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence
    an up-to-date packaging effort, there is no sensible means
    for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce
    my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take
    over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software
    that deserves continued use under diligent maintainership.
    I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave!

    Best regards,
    Mats Erik Andersson, dr sci math

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  • From David Kalnischkies@21:1/5 to Mats Erik Andersson on Thu Mar 17 23:20:01 2022
    On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 09:19:54PM +0100, Mats Erik Andersson wrote:
    The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity
    to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding
    three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence

    fwiw you need 2 (not 3) signatures from DDs in the process of becoming
    a DD (uploading or not) yourself to proof – as you say – your identity
    to avoid identity theft and other trickery by bad actors.

    To become a DM you only need one.

    (And that is only the common case. There is some leeway in the processes
    if it proves hard, like in the last few years. Your advocates and
    Application Managers are your friends, not some uptight nitpickers)

    Neither status nor any signature at all is needed to maintain a package.
    You can find a sponsor (usually a DD) who reviews your package and can
    sign it off for you – this very mailing list is one possible place to
    find such sponsors.

    (Having worked with sponsors is another corner stone of becoming a DM or
    DD as they will advocate for your skill both technical and social
    – something a mere signature on a key does not provide)


    I am sure you know this already as you had a few sponsors over the years
    as can be seen on the tracker overview, I am just mentioning it for the
    rest of the audience here who might not all be as experienced.


    for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce
    my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take
    over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software

    The standard way of announcing this desire is to either "orphan" (O) or "request an adoption" (RFA) of the package. You can read more about this
    in the developer reference [0] and the wnpp page [1]:

    [0] https://debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#orphaning-a-package
    [1] https://debian.org/devel/wnpp/

    You are also noted as the maintainer of 17 other packages. If you do not
    want to go through this process yourself, you could e.g. notify the MIA
    team so they can orphan the packages for you as they tend to do for
    people who have for whatever reason "disappeared". It is much better for everyone if stepping down is done responsibly as it avoids lengthy
    processes in which people will try to contact you to get permission for "salvaging" (as previously mentioned in the thread), non-maintainer
    uploads and so on.


    I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave!

    Thanks for your work & best of luck in your future endeavours, whatever
    they may be – and who knows, perhaps they lead you back to contributing
    to Debian again some day!


    Until then: Best regards

    David Kalnischkies

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  • From deb251@lewenberg.com@21:1/5 to vimer on Sat Mar 19 21:30:01 2022
    On 3/16/2022 3:53 AM, vimer wrote:
    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x
    version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package,
    we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.

    So is there anything else I can do to expedite this? Or do I just wait
    until a Debian Developer picks up the package?

    Thank you,
    Adam Lewenberg



    BR,
    vimer

    Adam Lewenberg

    [0]:
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu

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  • From Bo YU@21:1/5 to deb251@lewenberg.com on Mon Mar 21 03:10:01 2022
    Hi,

    On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:19 AM <deb251@lewenberg.com> wrote:

    On 3/16/2022 3:53 AM, vimer wrote:
    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x
    version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned)
    package,
    we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.

    So is there anything else I can do to expedite this? Or do I just wait
    until a Debian Developer picks up the package?

    I think Nicholas's answer is right. We can try to salvage packages for the
    rush case.
    You can refer to [0][1] to report a bug as ITS(Intend To Salvage).

    But there are some situations that are unclean for me:
    If you file an ITS bug, that is mean the package's new(co-) packages are
    you.

    [0]: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package

    [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html

    BR,
    Bo

    Thank you,
    Adam Lewenberg



    BR,
    vimer

    Adam Lewenberg

    [0]: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu



    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi,</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:19 AM &lt;<a href="mailto:deb251@lewenberg.com">deb251@lewenberg.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
    style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 3/16/2022 3:53 AM, vimer wrote:<br>
    &gt; Hi,<br>
    &gt; On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, <a href="mailto:deb251@lewenberg.com" target="_blank">deb251@lewenberg.com</a> wrote:<br>
    &gt;&gt; The Debian package &quot;rush&quot; has not been updated since 2017. The<br>
    &gt;&gt; upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x<br>
    &gt;&gt; version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released<br>
    &gt;&gt; Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes<br> &gt;&gt; packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?<br>
    &gt; In case the maintainer does not mark the package as &#39;O&#39;(Orphaned) package,<br>
    &gt; we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; But it&#39;s would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.<br>

    So is there anything else I can do to expedite this? Or do I just wait <br> until a Debian Developer picks up the package?<br>
    <br></blockquote><div>I think Nicholas&#39;s answer is right. We can try to salvage packages for the rush case.</div><div>You can refer to [0][1] to report a bug as ITS(Intend To Salvage). </div><div><br></div><div>But there are some situations that
    are unclean for me:</div><div>If you file an  ITS bug, that is mean the package&#39;s new(co-) packages are you.</div><div><br></div><div>[0]: <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package">https:
    //www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package</a> </div><div>[1]: <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html">https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html</a></div><div><
    </div><div>BR,</div><div>Bo</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
    Thank you,<br>
    Adam Lewenberg<br>


    &gt; <br>
    &gt; BR,<br>
    &gt; vimer<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Adam Lewenberg<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; [0]: <br>
    &gt; <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu</a><br>

    </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Bo YU@21:1/5 to tsu.yubo@gmail.com on Mon Mar 21 03:20:01 2022
    On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:02 AM Bo YU <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:19 AM <deb251@lewenberg.com> wrote:

    On 3/16/2022 3:53 AM, vimer wrote:
    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x
    version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.

    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned)
    package,
    we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.

    So is there anything else I can do to expedite this? Or do I just wait
    until a Debian Developer picks up the package?

    I think Nicholas's answer is right. We can try to salvage packages for
    the rush case.
    You can refer to [0][1] to report a bug as ITS(Intend To Salvage).

    But there are some situations that are unclean for me:
    If you file an ITS bug, that is mean the package's new(co-) packages are you.

    BTW, I have an ITA package and packaging it. Certainly, there is still some knowledge to learn for me.
    That is, I have no confidence in having two or more packages to deal with
    at the same time. Once done,
    I am glad to salvage the rush package :-)


    [0]: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package

    [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html

    BR,
    Bo

    Thank you,
    Adam Lewenberg



    BR,
    vimer

    Adam Lewenberg

    [0]:

    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu



    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:02 AM Bo YU &lt;<a href="mailto:tsu.yubo@gmail.com">tsu.yubo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_
    quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi,</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:19 AM &lt;<a href="mailto:
    deb251@lewenberg.com" target="_blank">deb251@lewenberg.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 3/16/2022 3:53 AM, vimer wrote:<br>
    &gt; Hi,<br>
    &gt; On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, <a href="mailto:deb251@lewenberg.com" target="_blank">deb251@lewenberg.com</a> wrote:<br>
    &gt;&gt; The Debian package &quot;rush&quot; has not been updated since 2017. The<br>
    &gt;&gt; upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x<br>
    &gt;&gt; version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released<br>
    &gt;&gt; Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes<br> &gt;&gt; packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?<br>
    &gt; In case the maintainer does not mark the package as &#39;O&#39;(Orphaned) package,<br>
    &gt; we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; But it&#39;s would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.<br>

    So is there anything else I can do to expedite this? Or do I just wait <br> until a Debian Developer picks up the package?<br>
    <br></blockquote><div>I think Nicholas&#39;s answer is right. We can try to salvage packages for the rush case.</div><div>You can refer to [0][1] to report a bug as ITS(Intend To Salvage). </div><div><br></div><div>But there are some situations that
    are unclean for me:</div><div>If you file an  ITS bug, that is mean the package&#39;s new(co-) packages are you.</div></div></div></blockquote><div>BTW, I have an ITA package and packaging it. Certainly, there is still some knowledge to learn for me.</
    <div>That is, I have no confidence in having two or more packages to deal with at the same time. Once done,</div><div>I am glad to salvage the rush package :-)</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
    solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>[0]: <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/doc/
    manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package</a> </div><div>[1]: <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html" target="_blank">https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00453.html</a></div><div><br></
    <div>BR,</div><div>Bo</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
    Thank you,<br>
    Adam Lewenberg<br>


    &gt; <br>
    &gt; BR,<br>
    &gt; vimer<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Adam Lewenberg<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; [0]: <br>
    &gt; <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#nmu</a><br>

    </blockquote></div></div>
    </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Andrey Rahmatullin@21:1/5 to Bo YU on Mon Mar 21 08:20:01 2022
    On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:02:03AM +0800, Bo YU wrote:
    But there are some situations that are unclean for me:
    If you file an ITS bug, that is mean the package's new(co-) packages are you.
    Sure, ITS means you want to maintain the package.
    "I want the package to be updated but don't want to maintain it" doesn't
    really have a solution. Even NMUing it to a new upstream version is not a solution, and is usually frowned upon.

    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 15 14:10:01 2022
    Em 17/03/2022 17:19, Mats Erik Andersson escreveu:
    Torsdag den 17 mars 2022, klockan 15:22, skrev Nicholas D Steeves detta:

    From a thread on debian-mentors,

    vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes:

    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote:
    The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>>> version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released
    Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming. >>>>
    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package, >>> we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.


    Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of
    this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush"
    would be more appropriate:

    https://wiki.debian.org/PackageSalvaging
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging

    #929160 justifies a minimal NMU fixing only that bug.

    I've CCed Mats, because the best solution is for the maintainer to take
    care of this :-)

    Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers
    Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the
    maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the
    ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation.


    Regards,
    Nicholas

    The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity
    to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding
    three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence
    an up-to-date packaging effort, there is no sensible means
    for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce
    my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take
    over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software
    that deserves continued use under diligent maintainership.
    I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave!

    Best regards,
    Mats Erik Andersson, dr sci math


    Greetings,

    Since Mats has expressed his desire to pass the package on to a
    new maintainer, I'm guessing it's not necessary to go through
    the salvage process. Therefore an ITS would be unnecessary and
    one could adopt the package directly.

    Maybe orphan the package, then open an ITA.

    So I ask, is there anyone working on this package?

    If not, I believe I can adopt it.

    Cheers

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  • From Nicholas D Steeves@21:1/5 to Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich on Sun Apr 17 02:20:01 2022
    Dear Mats, Fabio, and MIA Team,

    Mats, would you please skip the "Hi Mats," section below?

    MIA Team, It sounds like Mats probably intends to retire, but this
    conclusion isn't beyond reasonable doubt--so this Maintainer's packages
    are in a limbo state. TLDR; David Kalnischkies recommended contacting
    your team 2022-03-17, and Mats has not yet followed up on the
    debian-mentors thread. Given that it's almost been a month without
    follow-up, I feel that opening a ticket is justified, pending
    clarification. Maybe you will interpret the record differently and
    understand that Mats expresses a more strong intent to leave than I
    understood?

    "Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich" <ftobich@debian.org> writes:

    Em 17/03/2022 17:19, Mats Erik Andersson escreveu:
    Torsdag den 17 mars 2022, klockan 15:22, skrev Nicholas D Steeves detta:

    From a thread on debian-mentors,

    vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes:

    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote: >>>>> The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The
    upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>>>> version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released >>>>> Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes
    packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming. >>>>>
    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package? [snip]

    Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of
    this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush"
    would be more appropriate:

    [snip]
    Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers
    Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the
    maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the
    ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation.

    [snip]

    The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity
    to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding
    three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence
    an up-to-date packaging effort, there is no sensible means
    for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce
    my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take
    over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software
    that deserves continued use under diligent maintainership.
    I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave!

    Best regards,
    Mats Erik Andersson, dr sci math


    Hi Mats,

    As David Kalnischkies noted, identity verification is not required for sponsored uploads, but only for the "Debian Maintainer" (uploading
    rights granted for a select list of packages) role. Given that your
    retirement is predicated on "there is no sensible means for me to
    achieve [identity verification]", and identity verification is not in
    fact required, the conclusion does not follow from the premise,
    resulting in an ambiguous state. Are you interested in continuing to
    maintain your packages, or would you like to Orphan all of them, or
    would you like to orphan only a subset of them?

    I noticed that you maintain more than a few packages :-) Thank you for
    your work! If it would be too much of a hassle to file Orphan bugs for
    all of your packages then would you please reply to at least
    mia@qa.debian.org ? I've added them to CC for your convenience, as well
    as to tentatively initiate the investigation process.

    Let them know that you're retiring from Debian, if that's what you
    intent to do. I feel like that's probably what you intend, but Debian
    has extensive formal processes in place to prevent people from hijacking
    the work of others, and this is one of those processes. That said, I
    always hope that Maintainers will resume contributions!

    Greetings,


    Hi Fabio!

    Since Mats has expressed his desire to pass the package on to a
    new maintainer, I'm guessing it's not necessary to go through
    the salvage process. Therefore an ITS would be unnecessary and
    one could adopt the package directly.

    Maybe orphan the package, then open an ITA.


    I've initiated the MIA process; although, I hope that Mats didn't
    actually intent to retire.

    So I ask, is there anyone working on this package?


    Well, no one filed an ITS, which is too bad because the 21 day wait
    would have expired by now.

    If not, I believe I can adopt it.


    That's great news! :-) As I interpreted the discussion, lots of people
    would like to see GNU Rush updated, but no one wanted to maintain it
    long-term.


    Kind regards,
    Nicholas

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  • From Bo YU@21:1/5 to Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich on Sun Apr 17 06:10:01 2022
    Hi,
    On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 09:03:42AM -0300, Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich wrote:
    Em 17/03/2022 17:19, Mats Erik Andersson escreveu:
    Torsdag den 17 mars 2022, klockan 15:22, skrev Nicholas D Steeves detta:

    From a thread on debian-mentors,

    vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes:

    Hi,
    On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote: >>>>>The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The >>>>>upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>>>>version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released >>>>>Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes >>>>>packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming. >>>>>
    Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package?
    In case the maintainer does not mark the package as 'O'(Orphaned) package, >>>>we can do some fix or update with NMU[0].

    But it's would better to do NMU for active Debian Developer.


    Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of
    this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush"
    would be more appropriate:

    https://wiki.debian.org/PackageSalvaging
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging

    #929160 justifies a minimal NMU fixing only that bug.

    I've CCed Mats, because the best solution is for the maintainer to take >>>care of this :-)

    Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers >>>Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the >>>maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the
    ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation.


    Regards,
    Nicholas

    The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity
    to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding
    three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence
    an up-to-date packaging effort, there is no sensible means
    for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce
    my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take
    over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software
    that deserves continued use under diligent maintainership.
    I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave!

    Best regards,
    Mats Erik Andersson, dr sci math


    Greetings,

    Since Mats has expressed his desire to pass the package on to a
    new maintainer, I'm guessing it's not necessary to go through
    the salvage process. Therefore an ITS would be unnecessary and
    one could adopt the package directly.

    Maybe orphan the package, then open an ITA.

    So I ask, is there anyone working on this package?

    If not, I believe I can adopt it.

    Fabio, do you mind I adopt it?
    I know this is a little offend to ask the wanted. Because I was umfamiliar
    with procedure about such packages that do not submit "ITO" bugs about
    several weeks ago.

    BR,
    Bo


    Cheers

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