• Re: Bug#932957: Please migrate Release Notes to reStructuredText

    From Hendrik Boom@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 18:20:01 2023
    On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 01:06:12PM +0100, RL wrote:
    James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> writes:

    (someone who knows more may correct me, but I think it would be great to have
    the package available for install using apt in addition to the website)

    Interesting idea, but who would use it - won't a release-notes package
    always be a whole release out of date?

    It would mean that the realease-notes package on your system
    would always match the release on your system.

    -- hendrik


    (and the build-dependencies take a huge amount of disk space for
    something you only read once a cycle, alhtough maybe sphinx fixes that)


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  • From RL@21:1/5 to Hendrik Boom on Sun May 21 14:00:02 2023
    Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com> writes:

    On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 01:06:12PM +0100, RL wrote:
    James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> writes:

    (someone who knows more may correct me, but I think it would be great to have
    the package available for install using apt in addition to the website)

    Interesting idea, but who would use it - won't a release-notes package
    always be a whole release out of date?

    It would mean that the realease-notes package on your system
    would always match the release on your system.

    Can i ask why that is beneficial: how it would make your life better? i
    know you are not saying the website version is going away, but i'm
    afraid i don't understand the use-case for a packaged version. Maybe i
    am missing out on something.

    For me, the value of release-notes is to know what things need to be
    thought about as part of the upgrade. Especially things that need to
    happen before the dist-upgrade, such as 'do not upgrade an i386 system
    unless it is really i586', or 'this package is going away': sometimes, i wouldnt start the upgrade until i knew what was replacing removed
    packages with (see the current warning about gnome and orca for
    example).

    I also wonder how practical it is to achieve. At the moment, bookworm is frozen, and release-notes are work-in-progress - there are still open
    bugs with draft text and open merge-requests. Is it realistic for
    everything in release-notes to be finished (including translations) and
    for someone to upload a package ensure it makes it into bookworm debian
    during the full freeze before the release happens?

    I suppose you envision bookworm releasing with a best-efforts version,
    and re-uploading as part of point releases?

    If it is a package, shouldnt it be available in man/roff format so it is
    always readable from a text console?

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