On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote:
On 2022/07/19 22:12, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
On 19/07/2022 21:04, Wookey wrote:
On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote:
Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of communication?
Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our
own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients.
I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if
appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which
are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK
if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one
then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not sure if telegram is the same).
I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the
store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it yourself) is nice.
Wookey
I agree.
Importantly, Matrix is (1) federated, (2) can be bridged with other networks, eg IRC.
(as well as being open and free). Its hard to see Signal inter-operating
to others. As tech evolves, we need to stick to principles of being open
in the sense of federation, not being centralized.
There is the Debian Social [1] Matrix instance at https://element.debian.social. You can sign in with Salsa. Many of the
Debian IRC channels are bridged and collected in the #debian:matrix.debian.social space.
Nice
Groeten
Geert Stappers
[1]
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSocial
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