On 08/01/2023 11:43, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:33:06 CET:

Debian Testing is experiencing high volume of plasmashell and kded5
crashes. Just caught clean crash of plasmashell with full backtrace, I
was clicking nothing on the desktop with focus on another program,
and plasmashell just crashed. But this time it restarted itself and
desktop was usable again immediately, so I didn't wasted my work.
X11, Radeon card, AMD64 machine with ECC RAM and RAID1 storage.
Bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028197

No crashes here on Unstable.

ThinkPad T14 AMD Gen 1 with integrated AMD Renoir Vega 7 graphics.

Don't have Apper installed.

Ciao,

Hi.
I have apper installed. "KDE package management tool using PackageKit".
What is it for, can I uninstall it without consequence? I don't use
Discover or other KDE tools too much to install software, and can live
without it, if it comes to that.


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Hi all,

Debian Testing is experiencing high volume of plasmashell and kded5
crashes. Just caught clean crash of plasmashell with full backtrace, I
was clicking nothing on the desktop with focus on another program, and plasmashell just crashed. But this time it restarted itself and desktop
was usable again immediately, so I didn't wasted my work.
X11, Radeon card, AMD64 machine with ECC RAM and RAID1 storage.
Bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028197


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With kindest regards, Piotr.

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
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piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:33:06 CET:

Debian Testing is experiencing high volume of plasmashell and kded5
crashes. Just caught clean crash of plasmashell with full backtrace, I
was clicking nothing on the desktop with focus on another program,
and plasmashell just crashed. But this time it restarted itself and
desktop was usable again immediately, so I didn't wasted my work.
X11, Radeon card, AMD64 machine with ECC RAM and RAID1 storage.
Bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028197

No crashes here on Unstable.

ThinkPad T14 AMD Gen 1 with integrated AMD Renoir Vega 7 graphics.

Don't have Apper installed.

Ciao,
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Martin

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piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:46:35 CET:

On 08/01/2023 11:43, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:33:06 CET:

Debian Testing is experiencing high volume of plasmashell and kded5
crashes. Just caught clean crash of plasmashell with full
backtrace, I was clicking nothing on the desktop with focus on
another program, and plasmashell just crashed. But this time it
restarted itself and desktop was usable again immediately, so I
didn't wasted my work. X11, Radeon card, AMD64 machine with ECC
RAM and RAID1 storage. Bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028197

No crashes here on Unstable.

ThinkPad T14 AMD Gen 1 with integrated AMD Renoir Vega 7 graphics.

Don't have Apper installed.

I have apper installed. "KDE package management tool using
PackageKit". What is it for, can I uninstall it without consequence?
I don't use Discover or other KDE tools too much to install software,
and can live without it, if it comes to that.

From what I read from this whole thread, I'd recommend to remove it.

Apper is somewhat similar to Discover, but I am not sure whether it is
even maintained by upstream anymore.

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Martin

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Le 08/01/2023 à 12:53, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :

piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:46:35 CET:

On 08/01/2023 11:43, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

piorunz - 08.01.23, 12:33:06 CET:

Debian Testing is experiencing high volume of plasmashell and kded5
crashes. Just caught clean crash of plasmashell with full
backtrace, I was clicking nothing on the desktop with focus on
another program, and plasmashell just crashed. But this time it
restarted itself and desktop was usable again immediately, so I
didn't wasted my work. X11, Radeon card, AMD64 machine with ECC
RAM and RAID1 storage. Bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028197

No crashes here on Unstable.

ThinkPad T14 AMD Gen 1 with integrated AMD Renoir Vega 7 graphics.

Don't have Apper installed.

I have apper installed. "KDE package management tool using
PackageKit". What is it for, can I uninstall it without consequence?
I don't use Discover or other KDE tools too much to install software,
and can live without it, if it comes to that.
From what I read from this whole thread, I'd recommend to remove it.

Apper is somewhat similar to Discover, but I am not sure whether it is
even maintained by upstream anymore.

However it is apper which used to display in systray when upgrades or
security upgrades were available.

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Erwan David - 08.01.23, 12:58:56 CET:

Apper is somewhat similar to Discover, but I am not sure whether it
is even maintained by upstream anymore.

However it is apper which used to display in systray when upgrades or security upgrades were available.

Hmmm, I thought I would still be getting update notifications even
without apper. At least I still have an "Updates" entry in systray configuration.

Need to check whether those update available messages still popup. I do
not care much about those, as I use apt on command line often enough to upgrade the machine and there is something new daily in unstable anyway.
At least when I click the "Updates" icon it opens Discover. But right
now nothing to update here, so… no idea whether it pops up by itself currently. But I thought it was.

For what it is worth, both Apper and Discover depend on Packagekit which
AFAIK does the heavy lifting underneath.

I thought Discover could fully replace Apper.

And when I look at the git commit history of Apper, I get the impression
it is not really maintained anymore since at least 2019 or even longer:

https://invent.kde.org/system/apper/-/commits/master

Except for some build failure and crash bug fixes.

Anyway, if Plasmashell currently crashes with it, I will not have it on
my system. Simple as that.

Best,
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Martin

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