Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 23:03:03 +0100 (CET)
Borden <borden_c@tutanota.com> wrote:

Hello Borden,

Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in
the update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous
Plasma upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

I updated several days ago. The only problem was losing login audio notification (1). Otherwise, all is well.

(1) Not for the first time, either. It's an old issue, which has
recurred. See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422948
Comment #49 provides a workaround that did the job for me. Comment #87
points to another option, but I failed to get it to work here.

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On woensdag 16 maart 2022 23:03:03 CET Borden wrote:

Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present, but
if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt
upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.
So if that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't.

And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.

HTH,
Diederik
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Hi everyone,

I am facing a small bug/problem/new feature. I use a left handed mouse but
the configuration is not saved every time I plug/unplug the mouse. It was working before the upgrade (left handled with the mouse, right handled with
the touch mouse).

Regards
Gregorio

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 12:53, Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org>
wrote:

On woensdag 16 maart 2022 23:03:03 CET Borden wrote:

Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the update queue and I'm afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.

A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present,
but
if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.
So if that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn't, then don't.

And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.

HTH,
Diederik

<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I am facing a small bug/problem/new feature. I use a left handed mouse but the configuration is not saved every time I plug/unplug the mouse. It was working before the upgrade (left handled with the mouse,
right handled with the touch mouse).<br><br>Regards<br>Gregorio</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 12:53, Diederik de Haas &lt;<a href="mailto:didi.debian@cknow.org">didi.debian@cknow.org</a>&
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On woensdag 16 maart 2022 23:03:03 CET Borden wrote:<br>
&gt; Is it safe to upgrade in testing yet? There are dozens of packages in the<br>
&gt; update queue and I&#39;m afraid to hit dist-upgrade after the previous Plasma<br>
&gt; upgrade hobbled my computer for over a month.<br>

A quick look at man:/apt didn&#39;t show a &#39;-s&#39; from simulate being present, but <br>
if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But &#39;even&#39; apt <br>
upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.<br>
So if that looks sane, then go for it. If it doesn&#39;t, then don&#39;t.<br>

And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?<br>
The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.<br>

HTH,<br>
  Diederik</blockquote></div>

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On donderdag 17 maart 2022 13:55:59 CET Gregorio Rodrigo wrote:

I am facing a small bug/problem/new feature. I use a left handed mouse but the configuration is not saved every time I plug/unplug the mouse. It was working before the upgrade (left handled with the mouse, right handled with the touch mouse).

Then file a bug report for it. (I don't know against which package though)
A new (upstream) version typically brings new features, bugfixes AND new bugs. By reporting them, they can be addressed.
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17 Mar 2022, 08:52 by didi.debian@cknow.org:

A quick look at man:/apt didn't show a '-s' from simulate being present, but if you have aptitude installed, I know it supports that. But 'even' apt upgrade should ask for a confirmation before doing an actual upgrade.> So if that looks sane, then go

for it. If it doesn't, then don't.

And maybe stop using dist-upgrade by default?
The normal (safe-)upgrade is most of the time all you need.

HTH,
Diederik

I don't blame you for assuming that I blindly run full upgrades without reviewing the proposed changes first. However, during the last Plasma update there was a dependency bug in kwin. After a "safe" upgrade testing systems booted into a black screen.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2021/10/msg00045.html

Sometimes the user should _not_ be faulted for a broken system :-)

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